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AMX 50 Foch B

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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6,100,000  Credits Cost
18501850 HP Hit Points
56.18/59.5656.18/59.56 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
Mobility
10001000 hp Engine Power
50/13 km/h Speed Limit
3030 deg/s Traverse
17.817.8 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
180/80/40 mm Hull Armor
Armament







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Shell Cost
400/400/515400/400/515 HP Damage
257/325/65257/325/65 mm Penetration



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7.5 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 6 rounds
Cycle Time: 2 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 38 s
50% Crew: 47.07 s
75% Crew: 41.1 s
100% Crew: 36.44 s
With Vents: 35.64 s
With Vents and BiA: 34.86 s

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7.5 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 6 rounds
Cycle Time: 2 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 38 s
50% Crew: 47.07 s
75% Crew: 41.1 s
100% Crew: 36.44 s
With Vents: 35.64 s
With Vents and BiA: 34.86 s

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Rate of Fire






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3032

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3032
50% Crew: 2920
75% Crew: 2992
100% Crew: 3052
With Vents: 3044
With Vents and BiA: 3052

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3412
50% Crew: 3372
75% Crew: 3396
100% Crew: 3416
With Vents: 3416
With Vents and BiA: 3416

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3032
50% Crew: 2920
75% Crew: 2992
100% Crew: 3052
With Vents: 3044
With Vents and BiA: 3052

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3412
50% Crew: 3372
75% Crew: 3396
100% Crew: 3416
With Vents: 3416
With Vents and BiA: 3416

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3903.7
50% Crew: 3759.5
75% Crew: 3852.2
100% Crew: 3929.45
With Vents: 3919.15
With Vents and BiA: 3929.45

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 4392.95
50% Crew: 4341.45
75% Crew: 4372.35
100% Crew: 4398.1
With Vents: 4398.1
With Vents and BiA: 4398.1

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3032

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3032
50% Crew: 2920
75% Crew: 2992
100% Crew: 3052
With Vents: 3044
With Vents and BiA: 3052

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3412
50% Crew: 3372
75% Crew: 3396
100% Crew: 3416
With Vents: 3416
With Vents and BiA: 3416

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3032
50% Crew: 2920
75% Crew: 2992
100% Crew: 3052
With Vents: 3044
With Vents and BiA: 3052

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3412
50% Crew: 3372
75% Crew: 3396
100% Crew: 3416
With Vents: 3416
With Vents and BiA: 3416

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3903.7
50% Crew: 3759.5
75% Crew: 3852.2
100% Crew: 3929.45
With Vents: 3919.15
With Vents and BiA: 3929.45

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 4392.95
50% Crew: 4341.45
75% Crew: 4372.35
100% Crew: 4398.1
With Vents: 4398.1
With Vents and BiA: 4398.1

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Damage Per Minute


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0.34 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.421 m
With 75% Crew: 0.368 m
With 100% Crew: 0.326 m
With BiA: 0.319 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m
Maximum possible: 0.299 m

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0.34 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.421 m
With 75% Crew: 0.368 m
With 100% Crew: 0.326 m
With BiA: 0.319 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m
Maximum possible: 0.299 m

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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
20° Gun Arc
-6°/+18°-6°/+18° Elevation Arc
7272 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1515 % Chance of Fire






380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
AMX 50 Foch B


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The AMX 50 Foch B is a French tier 10 tank destroyer.

The project of the AMX 50 Foch tank destroyer with a 120 mm gun provided for installing the automatic loading system. However, after work on the AMX 50 120 with the same armament started, the project was deemed potentially inefficient. Existed only in blueprints.

Replaced Foch 155 in 9.20 patch, the AMX 50 Foch B is basically Foch 155 with rapid-fire autoloader gun. It sacrifice its alpha damage and penetration in favor of high burst damage, high DPM, and accuracy. resulting to insane damage per clip at 2400+, close to the monstrosity damage per clip of Waffentrager E 100. It still suffers some of problems with Foch 155, however.

The AMX 50 Foch B marks the end of its French tank destroyer line.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X 120 mm AC SA46 257/325/65 400/400/515 7.5 0.34 2.3 3580 339000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X Saurer 1000 1000 15 750 110000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X AMX 50 Foch B 59.56 30 0 11000 82500

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR 619 750 80 54000


Compatible Equipment

Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Longitudinal Torsion Bars Improved Ventilation Class 3 Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- High accuracy and shell velocity allow efficient sniping

- Incredible 2,400 burst damage distributed among 6 shells with quick intra-clip reload and acceptable full clip reload time

- Tough front armor, thick and sloped

- Good top speed and respectable weight make potential rammer against medium or light tanks

- Shock factor like the previous WT E 100 due to clip potential, enemy tanks may panic upon sighting you


Cons:

- 2nd worst alpha damage and worst penetration on both standard and premium ammunition of all Tier X TDs (excluding HE(SH) shell of British TDs)

- Long and weakly armored side armor, will not bounce unless shells hit at an auto-bounce angle

- Rangerfinder can be easily penetrated by even Tier VIIs, and makes obvious target up close

- Weak engine compartment roof, extremely vulnerable against artillery fire or tall facehuggers

- Sluggish due to bad terrain resistance

- Limited gun arc, -6/+18 degrees vertical and ±10 degrees horizontal


Performance

After undergoing a considerable revamp in patch 9.20, the Tier X Foch received a 120mm gun and more powerful engine. In compare to its previous 155mm mounting configuration, the new Foch B can now relocate and snipe with ease, making a much better supporter. While losing in penetration and alpha damage, the new 6 rounder still possesses formidable if not stronger one-clipping capability, provided one knows to exploit weak spots. With 2 more shells in drum than other 120mm sporting autoloaders, the Foch B can choose to expend a shot or two de-tracking first, thus pinning down the target for easier kill. In terms of protection, thicker sides and fighting compartment roof are now proof against large caliber autopens, but still prone to flanking or plunging fire.


Early Research

The AMX 50 Foch B comes elited, thus requires no research.


Suggested Equipment


Binocular Telescope Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Improved Ventilation Class 3


Gallery

Historical Info

See the AMX50 Foch history page for a complete history on the Foch itself. The Foch B is essentially a "what-if" based on the AMX 50 Foch having a drum-based autoloader, similar to the AMX 50 heavy tanks. There are no known projects or blueprints that show such a design ever existed.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

* The Foch was never designed to hold an autoloader even on blueprints, despite the Foch B's description.
    • There was never any Foch project designated "Foch B"


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