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Premium  AMX Chasseur de chars

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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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7,450  Gold Cost
14001400 HP Hit Points
34/37.834/37.8 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
Mobility
12001200 hp Engine Power
57/20 km/h Speed Limit
4040 deg/s Traverse
35.2935.29 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
30/20/20 mm Hull Armor
30/20/2030/20/20 mm Turret Armor
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Shell Cost
240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage
212/259/45212/259/45 mm Penetration



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8.22 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.3 s
50% Crew: 9.04 s
75% Crew: 7.9 s
100% Crew: 7 s
Rammer: 6.3 s
Vents: 6.85 s
Both: 6.16 s
Both and BiA: 6.03 s
Both and Max Crew %: 5.78 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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8.22 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.3 s
50% Crew: 9.04 s
75% Crew: 7.9 s
100% Crew: 7 s
Rammer: 6.3 s
Vents: 6.85 s
Both: 6.16 s
Both and BiA: 6.03 s
Both and Max Crew %: 5.78 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1939.2

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1939.2
50% Crew: 1564.8
75% Crew: 1792.8
100% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2068.8
Rammer: 2248.8
Both: 2299.2
Both and BiA: 2349.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2450.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2179.2
50% Crew: 1804.8
75% Crew: 2032.8
100% Crew: 2263.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2488.8
Vents: 2308.8
Both: 2539.2
Both and BiA: 2589.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2690.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1939.2
50% Crew: 1564.8
75% Crew: 1792.8
100% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2068.8
Rammer: 2248.8
Both: 2299.2
Both and BiA: 2349.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2450.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2179.2
50% Crew: 1804.8
75% Crew: 2032.8
100% Crew: 2263.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2488.8
Vents: 2308.8
Both: 2539.2
Both and BiA: 2589.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2690.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2585.6
50% Crew: 2086.4
75% Crew: 2390.4
100% Crew: 2697.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2758.4
Rammer: 2998.4
Both: 3065.6
Both and BiA: 3132.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3267.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2905.6
50% Crew: 2406.4
75% Crew: 2710.4
100% Crew: 3017.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 3318.4
Vents: 3078.4
Both: 3385.6
Both and BiA: 3452.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3587.2

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1939.2

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1939.2
50% Crew: 1564.8
75% Crew: 1792.8
100% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2068.8
Rammer: 2248.8
Both: 2299.2
Both and BiA: 2349.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2450.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2179.2
50% Crew: 1804.8
75% Crew: 2032.8
100% Crew: 2263.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2488.8
Vents: 2308.8
Both: 2539.2
Both and BiA: 2589.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2690.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1939.2
50% Crew: 1564.8
75% Crew: 1792.8
100% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2068.8
Rammer: 2248.8
Both: 2299.2
Both and BiA: 2349.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2450.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2179.2
50% Crew: 1804.8
75% Crew: 2032.8
100% Crew: 2263.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2488.8
Vents: 2308.8
Both: 2539.2
Both and BiA: 2589.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2690.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2585.6
50% Crew: 2086.4
75% Crew: 2390.4
100% Crew: 2697.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2758.4
Rammer: 2998.4
Both: 3065.6
Both and BiA: 3132.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3267.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2905.6
50% Crew: 2406.4
75% Crew: 2710.4
100% Crew: 3017.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 3318.4
Vents: 3078.4
Both: 3385.6
Both and BiA: 3452.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3587.2

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.34 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.421 m
With 75% Crew: 0.368 m
With 100% Crew: 0.326 m
With BiA: 0.319 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m
Maximum possible: 0.299 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.34 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.421 m
With 75% Crew: 0.368 m
With 100% Crew: 0.326 m
With BiA: 0.319 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m
Maximum possible: 0.299 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.2 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.725 s
With 75% Crew: 2.38 s
With 100% Crew: 2.109 s
With GLD: 1.918 s
With BiA: 2.063 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.018 s
With both and GLD: 1.835 s
Maximum possible: 1.759 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.2 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.725 s
With 75% Crew: 2.38 s
With 100% Crew: 2.109 s
With GLD: 1.918 s
With BiA: 2.063 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.018 s
With both and GLD: 1.835 s
Maximum possible: 1.759 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
3838 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-10°/+20°-10°/+20° Elevation Arc
9090 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1515 % Chance of Fire






390 m 

With 50% Crew: 306.4 m
With 75% Crew: 348.2 m
With 100% Crew: 390 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m
With Coated Optics: 429 m
With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m
Maximum possible: 558.3 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






390 m 

With 50% Crew: 306.4 m
With 75% Crew: 348.2 m
With 100% Crew: 390 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m
With Coated Optics: 429 m
With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m
Maximum possible: 558.3 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
AMX Chasseur de chars


VIII

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7450

The AMX Chasseur de chars is a French tier 8 premium medium tank.

In 1946, the AMX company presented this design for a new vehicle. The powerful engine and light weight would have made the vehicle highly mobile, and the 90-mm gun was equipped with a mechanical ammunition system for a high rate of fire. However, the large dimensions of the vehicle, its thin armor, high cost, and the complexity of the design made it unappealing, and the project never advanced to a prototype.

The CDC is a rather interesting tank. While it was originally intended as a tank destroyer, in WoT it's more in place as a medium tank. The hard stats will lead you to believe that this is essentially a fat light tank - 35hp/t being one of the best in the game.

However, due to hidden stats, namely ground resistance, the tank is much slower than you'd think. Adding to the problems is bad gun handling - all in all it results in an inadequate package of a quick-ish medium tank with an average gun, bad gun handling and absolutely no armor. In case that's not enough, the camo values are between a Pershing and a Panther. That's 'mediocre' to 'pretty darn bad', in other words.

While the CDC was considered one of the best premium tanks at its introduction, it's not mostly a relic of the past. Penetration, while good, is not enough for the matches this thing will see, nor is it good enough to compensate for lackluster gun handling.

Good players might be able to exploit the arguably above average mobility of the tank, but it remains a tank with extremely low survivability. Big size, low camo, slow aiming, most things are against you even when employing what would appear to be ideal tactics for a fast tank destroyer. That's not even counting that this playstyle is impossible on most of the in-game maps. Adding to the problem is that most players will load HE when you come around. This means that trading shots or dueling tanks is extremely risky at best. Artillery will feast on you, and with a direct hit you won't even remember that there was an arty rebalance trying to counter the 1000-damage penetrating hits.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII 90 mm AC DCA 45 212/259/45 240/240/320 8.22 0.34 2.2 2750 121250

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII AMX Chasseur de chars 30/20/20 38 390 6000 30000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X Maybach HL 295 F 1200 15 750 123000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII AMX Chasseur de chars 37.8 40 0 7000 30000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000


Compatible Equipment

Vertical Stabilizer Mk 1 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Innovative Loading System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Torsion Bars 3 t Class Improved Ventilation Class 2 Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Above-average penetration for T8.
  • Fast hillclimber.
  • Great gun depression at 10 degrees; effective on hilly terrain
  • High ammunition count
  • Good credit-making ability for its price


Cons:


  • Non-existent armour
  • Low top speed for a so-called fast medium tank.
  • Bad camouflage values (for a pure support tank)
  • Huge size (especially length) for a medium; even bigger than some heavies in-game
  • Sluggish due to hidden stats, effectively negating most of the engine power advantage.


Performance

The CDC is entirely dependent on a careful playing style, waiting for an opportunity to strike without getting hit. Abusing your 10 degrees of gun depression for cresting in hilly terrain is a good way to keep the enemy surprised. Due to being a meaty target, the CDC has rather low survivability.


Early Research

no research possible (premium tank)


Suggested Equipment


Tank Gun Rammer Coated Optics Vertical Stabilizer Improved Ventilation"Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1 


External Reviews and Opinions

Gallery

Historical Info

The AMX Chasseur de Chars (literally "Hunter of Tanks/Tank Hunter") was a lightly armored tank destroyer, designed in 1946 upon the chassis of the AMX M4 project. The project was cancelled in the blueprint stage with no prototypes built.

Characteristics:

  • Length: 7.38 m
  • Width: 3.25 m
  • Height: 2.70 m
  • Weight in combat order: 34 t
  • Armor: front: 30 mm, other parts 20 mm
  • Suspension: Torsion bars
  • Engine: Maybach HL 295 12 cylinders 1200 hp
  • Transmission: AK5-250 5-speed
  • Armament: 1 90 mm Schneider gun and coaxial machine gun, 1 cash machine gun.
  • Ammunition: 90 shells, 18 magazines
  • Fuel: 1,700 liters of gasoline in 4 tanks at the rear.
  • Run time: 6 hours
  • Crew: 4 men, tank commander, gunner, loader, driver


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

- It was originally designed as a tank destroyer, not a medium tank.


Sources and External Links

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Czechoslovakia IVST vz. 39 VŠkoda T 24 VIŠkoda T 40 VIŠkoda T 25 VIIKonštrukta T-34/100 VIIITVP VTU Koncept IXŠkoda T 50 XTVP T 50/51
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China VIType 64 VIIType 62 VIIIType 59 VIIIWZ-111 VIIIT-34-3 VIII112 VIII59-Patton VIIIWZ-120-1G FT X121B
Japan IIType 97 Te-Ke VType 3 Chi-Nu Kai VIHeavy Tank No. VI VIIISTA-2
Czechoslovakia VIŠkoda T 40
Sweden IIL-60 VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 VIIIStrv S1 VIIIPrimo Victoria