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AMX 30 1er prototype

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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3,550,000  Credits Cost
15501650 HP Hit Points
32.37/32.732.5/37.8 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader (Radio Operator)
Mobility
720720 hp Engine Power
65/23 km/h Speed Limit
3436 deg/s Traverse
22.2422.15 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
80/30/30 mm Hull Armor
80/40/30150/40/30 mm Turret Armor
Armament







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1210/4800/680
Shell Cost
240/240/320390/390/480 HP Damage
170/248/45248/300/53 mm Penetration



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7.59 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.9 s
50% Crew: 9.79 s
75% Crew: 8.55 s
100% Crew: 7.57 s
Rammer: 6.81 s
Vents: 7.4 s
Both: 6.66 s
Both and BiA: 6.52 s
Both and Max Crew %: 6.25 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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6.9 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 8.7 s
50% Crew: 10.78 s
75% Crew: 9.41 s
100% Crew: 8.34 s
Rammer: 7.51 s
Vents: 8.16 s
Both: 7.34 s
Both and BiA: 7.18 s
Both and Max Crew %: 6.88 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1800

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1800
50% Crew: 1452
75% Crew: 1663.2
100% Crew: 1876.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1920
Rammer: 2085.6
Both: 2131.2
Both and BiA: 2179.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2272.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2040
50% Crew: 1692
75% Crew: 1903.2
100% Crew: 2116.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 2325.6
Vents: 2160
Both: 2371.2
Both and BiA: 2419.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2512.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1800
50% Crew: 1452
75% Crew: 1663.2
100% Crew: 1876.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1920
Rammer: 2085.6
Both: 2131.2
Both and BiA: 2179.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2272.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2040
50% Crew: 1692
75% Crew: 1903.2
100% Crew: 2116.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 2325.6
Vents: 2160
Both: 2371.2
Both and BiA: 2419.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2512.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2400
50% Crew: 1936
75% Crew: 2217.6
100% Crew: 2502.4
100% Crew
Vents: 2560
Rammer: 2780.8
Both: 2841.6
Both and BiA: 2905.6
Both and Max Crew %: 3030.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2720
50% Crew: 2256
75% Crew: 2537.6
100% Crew: 2822.4
100% Crew
Rammer: 3100.8
Vents: 2880
Both: 3161.6
Both and BiA: 3225.6
Both and Max Crew %: 3350.4

See here, here, or here for more information.






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2691

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (390 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2691
50% Crew: 2172.3
75% Crew: 2488.2
100% Crew: 2808
100% Crew
Vents: 2870.4
Rammer: 3120
Both: 3190.2
Both and BiA: 3260.4
Both and Max Crew %: 3400.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3081
50% Crew: 2562.3
75% Crew: 2878.2
100% Crew: 3198
100% Crew
Rammer: 3510
Vents: 3260.4
Both: 3580.2
Both and BiA: 3650.4
Both and Max Crew %: 3790.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (390 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2691
50% Crew: 2172.3
75% Crew: 2488.2
100% Crew: 2808
100% Crew
Vents: 2870.4
Rammer: 3120
Both: 3190.2
Both and BiA: 3260.4
Both and Max Crew %: 3400.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3081
50% Crew: 2562.3
75% Crew: 2878.2
100% Crew: 3198
100% Crew
Rammer: 3510
Vents: 3260.4
Both: 3580.2
Both and BiA: 3650.4
Both and Max Crew %: 3790.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (480 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 3312
50% Crew: 2673.6
75% Crew: 3062.4
100% Crew: 3456
100% Crew
Vents: 3532.8
Rammer: 3840
Both: 3926.4
Both and BiA: 4012.8
Both and Max Crew %: 4185.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3792
50% Crew: 3153.6
75% Crew: 3542.4
100% Crew: 3936
100% Crew
Rammer: 4320
Vents: 4012.8
Both: 4406.4
Both and BiA: 4492.8
Both and Max Crew %: 4665.6

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.34 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.421 m
With 75% Crew: 0.368 m
With 100% Crew: 0.326 m
With BiA: 0.319 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m
Maximum possible: 0.299 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.37 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.458 m
With 75% Crew: 0.4 m
With 100% Crew: 0.355 m
With BiA: 0.347 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.339 m
Maximum possible: 0.325 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.4 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.973 s
With 75% Crew: 2.596 s
With 100% Crew: 2.301 s
With GLD: 2.092 s
With BiA: 2.25 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.202 s
With both and GLD: 2.001 s
Maximum possible: 1.918 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
4044 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-8°/+20°-8°/+20° Elevation Arc
7347 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1512 % Chance of Fire






380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






390 m 

With 50% Crew: 306.4 m
With 75% Crew: 348.2 m
With 100% Crew: 390 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m
With Coated Optics: 429 m
With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m
Maximum possible: 558.3 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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720 m 

With 50% Crew: 565.7 m
With 75% Crew: 642.9 m
With 100% Crew: 720 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 864 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 792 m
Maximum possible: 1036 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top
AMX 30 1er prototype


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The AMX 30 1er prototype is a French tier 9 medium tank.

Developed as part of a competitive search for a unified European tank. The vehicle turned out to have maneuverability, engine power, and effective anti-tank engagement distance superior to all other vehicles except the Leopard 1. The armor of the vehicle was quite thin, but it was decided that technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete: survivability would depend on mobility and firepower.

The AMX 30 1er prototype leads to the AMX 30 B.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII 90 mm F3 170/248/45 240/240/320 7.89 0.33 2.3 2200 87000
VIII 100 mm SA47 232/263/50 300/300/400 6.74 0.35 2.4 3000 127550
X 105 mm mle. F1 248/300/53 390/390/480 6.9 0.37 2.3 3000 290000

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII AMX 30 1er prototype 80/40/30 40 380 7000 32500
IX AMX 30 A pré-série 150/40/30 44 390 7000 64000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IX SOFAM 12 GSds 720 15 2100 86050
X Hispano-Suiza HS 110 pré-série 720 12 1426 94250

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII AMX 30 1er prototype 32.7 34 0 8500 32000
IX AMX 30 A pré-série 37.8 36 0 8500 63000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X TRVP-13 750 80 54000
IX TRVP-11 (Banane) 720 80 45500


Compatible Equipment

Vertical Stabilizer Mk 1 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Innovative Loading System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Torsion Bars 3 t Class Improved Ventilation Class 2 Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • High top speed, good acceleration and decent turning
  • Good camo values
  • Fast-firing top-gun with acceptable penetration, good alpha and excellent DPM
  • Good accuracy when fully aimed
  • Quite good and angled frontal turret armor on 2nd cupola (buffed to 150mm in patch 9.20); can give some bounces


Cons:


  • Weak hull armor; won't bounce shells often
  • Accuracy on the move / when not being fully aimed is bad; you will miss more often than not!
  • Relatively large cupola on the top turret
  • Often catches fire from frontal shots due to the frontal fuel tanks
  • Poor view range for a medium tank


Performance

The AMX 30 1er Prototype is a great example of power creep. This medium has the speed of a Leopard, the turret armor of a Centurion, the gun depression of an american medium/heavy and the camo of T-54, combined with good DPM and high alpha. Note, however, that after patch 9.20 its top gun lost 12mm of penetration, so expect to use more HEAT against heavily armored targets.

When stock, the AMX 30 Prototype is a pain. Although the mobility is still fairly good, the gun is only really effective for flank shots or even rear shots for some of the more heavily armored tanks in the game. However the stock mobility is good enough to reach these required positions.

Researching the 100 mm SA47 should be a main priority. Note that the gun is too heavy to be initially mounted so the tracks should be researched or Enhanced Suspension mounted (it is cheap anyway).

The final gun, the 105 mm mle. F1, is an excellent addition to this tank. It combines acceptable penetration (248mm) with good alpha and relatively fast rate of fire to make the AMX 30 Prototype a medium with a nasty punch for unsuspecting enemies.


Early Research

  • If you have free XP to unlock the tracks, do so. If not, mount enhanced suspension, it is cheap and will allow faster progress to the 2nd gun if you don't already have it unlocked. Mobility with stock tracks and engine is very good anyway, so the firepower should be your priority.
  • Research and mount the 100 mm SA47 gun for a much needed boost in penetration and damage. If you played through AMX 50 100 or Bat.-Châtillon 25 t AP, you should have this gun readily available.
  • Research the 105mm gun, it is what makes the tank
  • Research the turret for increased view range, better HP (1550->1650), faster reload, as well as better frontal armor
  • If not already done in step 1, research the tracks to allow for a higher weight limit, better traverse speed, and to free up 1 slot for combat-oriented equipment (occupied by enhanced suspension up to this point)
  • Research the upgraded engine; it has a lower chance of engine fire (12%) and slightly better mobility due to lower weight
  • Finally, research the radio


Suggested Equipment


Vertical Stabilizer Mk 1 Tank Gun Rammer Improved Ventilation Class 2Coated Optics 


Gallery

History for this tank not found


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Germany IIIGroßtraktor - Krupp IIIPz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. A IIIPz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) IVPz.Kpfw. III Ausf. J IVPz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. D IVVK 20.01 (D) VPz.Kpfw. III Ausf. K VTurán III prototípus VPz.Kpfw. III/IV VPz.Kpfw. IV hydrostat. VPz.Kpfw. V/IV VPz.Kpfw. V/IV Alpha VPz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H VPz.Kpfw. T 25 VIPz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm VIVK 30.01 (P) VIVK 30.01 (D) VIVK 30.02 (M) VIIPanther/M10 VIIPanther VIIVK 30.02 (D) VIIIPanther mit 8,8 cm L/71 VIIIPanzer 58 Mutz VIIIIndien-Panzer VIIIPanther II IXE 50 IXT 55A IXLeopard Prototyp A XE 50 Ausf. M XLeopard 1
France IIID2 IIISomua S35 IVSARL 42 VRenault G1 VIIILorraine 40 t VIIIAMX Chasseur de chars VIIIM4A1 Revalorisé IXAMX 30 1er prototype IXBat.-Châtillon 25 t AP XBat.-Châtillon 25 t XAMX 30 B
USSR IVA-32 IVT-28E with F-30 IVT-28 VMatilda IV VT-34 VIA-43 VIT-34-85M VIT-34-85 Rudy VIT-34-85 VIIA-44 VIIKV-13 VIIT-43 VIIT-44-122 VIIIObject 416 VIIIT-54 first prototype VIIIT-44-100 (R) VIIISTG VIIISTG Guard VIIIT-44 IXObject 430 Version II IXT-54 XObject 140 XObject 430 XObject 907 XT-22 medium XT-62A
China VType T-34 VIType 58 VIIT-34-1 VIIIType 59 VIIIT-34-2 VIIIT-34-3 VIII59-Patton IXWZ-120 X121 X121B
Japan IIChi-Ni IIType 89 I-Go/Chi-Ro IIIType 97 Chi-Ha IVType 1 Chi-He VType 3 Chi-Nu VType 3 Chi-Nu Kai VIType 4 Chi-To VIIType 5 Chi-Ri VIIISTA-1 VIIISTA-2 IXType 61 XSTB-1
Czechoslovakia IVST vz. 39 VŠkoda T 24 VIŠkoda T 40 VIŠkoda T 25 VIIKonštrukta T-34/100 VIIITVP VTU Koncept IXŠkoda T 50 XTVP T 50/51
Sweden IVLago VStrv m/42 VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 VIStrv 74 VIILeo VIIIPrimo Victoria
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