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FV3805

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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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3,560,000  Credits Cost
450450 HP Hit Points
46/5252.1/55 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
  5. Loader
Mobility
650750 hp Engine Power
40/12 km/h Speed Limit
2022 deg/s Traverse
14.1314.4 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
50.8/50.8/50.8 mm Hull Armor
Armament







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Shell Cost
600/600/900/900/ HP Damage
35/35/46/46/ mm Penetration



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2.61 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 23 s
50% Crew: 28.49 s
75% Crew: 24.88 s
100% Crew: 22.05 s
Rammer: 19.85 s
Vents: 21.56 s
Both: 19.41 s
Both and BiA: 18.99 s
Both and Max Crew %: 18.2 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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1.62 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 37 s
50% Crew: 45.83 s
75% Crew: 40.02 s
100% Crew: 35.48 s
Rammer: 31.93 s
Vents: 34.7 s
Both: 31.23 s
Both and BiA: 30.55 s
Both and Max Crew %: 29.28 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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2268

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (600 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2268
50% Crew: 1830
75% Crew: 2094
100% Crew: 2364
100% Crew
Vents: 2418
Rammer: 2628
Both: 2688
Both and BiA: 2748
Both and Max Crew %: 2862

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2868
50% Crew: 2430
75% Crew: 2694
100% Crew: 2964
100% Crew
Rammer: 3228
Vents: 3018
Both: 3288
Both and BiA: 3348
Both and Max Crew %: 3462

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (600 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2268
50% Crew: 1830
75% Crew: 2094
100% Crew: 2364
100% Crew
Vents: 2418
Rammer: 2628
Both: 2688
Both and BiA: 2748
Both and Max Crew %: 2862

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2868
50% Crew: 2430
75% Crew: 2694
100% Crew: 2964
100% Crew
Rammer: 3228
Vents: 3018
Both: 3288
Both and BiA: 3348
Both and Max Crew %: 3462

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1458

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (900 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1458
50% Crew: 1179
75% Crew: 1350
100% Crew: 1521
100% Crew
Vents: 1557
Rammer: 1692
Both: 1728
Both and BiA: 1764
Both and Max Crew %: 1845

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2358
50% Crew: 2079
75% Crew: 2250
100% Crew: 2421
100% Crew
Rammer: 2592
Vents: 2457
Both: 2628
Both and BiA: 2664
Both and Max Crew %: 2745

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (900 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1458
50% Crew: 1179
75% Crew: 1350
100% Crew: 1521
100% Crew
Vents: 1557
Rammer: 1692
Both: 1728
Both and BiA: 1764
Both and Max Crew %: 1845

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2358
50% Crew: 2079
75% Crew: 2250
100% Crew: 2421
100% Crew
Rammer: 2592
Vents: 2457
Both: 2628
Both and BiA: 2664
Both and Max Crew %: 2745

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.63 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.78 m
With 75% Crew: 0.681 m
With 100% Crew: 0.604 m
With BiA: 0.591 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.578 m
Maximum possible: 0.554 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.74 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.917 m
With 75% Crew: 0.8 m
With 100% Crew: 0.71 m
With BiA: 0.694 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.679 m
Maximum possible: 0.651 m

For more details, see Crew
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4.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 5.327 s
With 75% Crew: 4.651 s
With 100% Crew: 4.123 s
With GLD: 3.748 s
With BiA: 4.032 s
With BiA and Vents: 3.945 s
With both and GLD: 3.586 s
Maximum possible: 3.437 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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4.8 s 

With 50% Crew: 5.946 s
With 75% Crew: 5.192 s
With 100% Crew: 4.602 s
With GLD: 4.184 s
With BiA: 4.501 s
With BiA and Vents: 4.403 s
With both and GLD: 4.003 s
Maximum possible: 3.837 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
1212 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
50° Gun Arc
-5°/+70°-2°/+63° Elevation Arc
7648 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






275 m 

With 50% Crew: 216.1 m
With 75% Crew: 245.6 m
With 100% Crew: 275 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 288.9 m
With Coated Optics: 302.5 m
With Binocular Telescope: 343.75 m
Maximum possible: 393.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






275 m 

With 50% Crew: 216.1 m
With 75% Crew: 245.6 m
With 100% Crew: 275 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 288.9 m
With Coated Optics: 302.5 m
With Binocular Telescope: 343.75 m
Maximum possible: 393.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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550 m 

With 50% Crew: 432.1 m
With 75% Crew: 491.1 m
With 100% Crew: 550 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 660 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 605 m
Maximum possible: 791.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top

Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)

Camouflage

  • Stationary: 8.2%
  • When Moving: 4.1%
  • When Firing: 0.9%


Terrain Resistance

  • On Hard Ground: 1.15
  • On Medium Ground: 1.34
  • On Soft Ground: 2.21


Dispersion Change Values

  • Turret Contribution
  • Rotation: 0.5
  • Shot Recoil: 5.75
  • Suspension Contribution
  • Acceleration: 0.35
  • Turning: 0.35


With 100% Crew

IX

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3560000

The FV3805 is a British tier 9 self-propelled gun.

In 1947, the SPG development program was approved by the British government. Several variants based on the Centurion were proposed. One of them featured a 140-mm howitzer. Two prototypes were built in 1957. In 1960, development of the SPG was discontinued. The vehicle never saw service.

The FV3805 leads to the Conqueror Gun Carriage.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII B.L. 5.5-in. Gun 35/35 600/600 2.61 0.63 4.3 1869 88000
VIII Q.F. 6-in. Gun Mk. V 38/38 700/700 2.14 0.65 4.5 6960 130000
IX B.L. 7.2-in. Howitzer Mk. 6 46/46 900/900 1.62 0.74 4.8 7972 230000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V Rolls-Royce Meteor Mk. IVB 650 20 744 16000
IX Rolls-Royce Meteor Mk. IVC 750 20 744 84000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII FV3805 52 20 0 20000 30000
IX FV3806 55 22 0 20000 62000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII WS No. 22 700 40 25000
VIII WS No. 19 Mk. III 550 40 22000
X SR C42 750 40 54000


Compatible Equipment

Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Innovative Loading System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Coil Springs Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 2 Large-Caliber Artillery-Shell Rammer Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Pudding and Tea Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Gun range: first: 1300 m, second: 1400 m, top: 1350 m
  • Very good gun arc
  • Very mobile for it's size
  • Second gun is accurate and has a good RoF, at the expense of low damage
  • Good balance of damage, accuracy, and reload on the upgraded gun


Cons:


  • Big size
  • Low damage on non-top guns
  • Crew does not match FV207 and Conqueror Gun Carriage (one less gunner)


Performance

The FV3805 is the tier 9 artillery piece in the British line. It is often overshadowed by the Conqueror Gun Carriage, but it is also a capable artillery piece. It has two guns, which allows for two different playstyle setups. One can mount the upgraded gun for high damage and splash per shot, or one can opt for the FV207's gun with it's high rate of fire and good accuracy. It is far more mobile than the 212a and the G.W. Tiger, but less mobile than the Bat Chatillion 155 55 and M53/55. Most people consider the M53/55 to the superior artillery piece, thus the FV3805 does not see much Clan Wars use.


Early Research

  • The Q.F. 6-in. Gun Mk. V, Rolls-Royce Meteor Mk. IVC Engine, and SR C42 Radio carry over from the FV207. Mount them immediately.
  • First research the FV3806 Suspension.
  • Finally research the B.L. 7.2-in. Howitzer Mk. 6.


Suggested Equipment


Large-Caliber Artillery-Shell Rammer Improved Ventilation Class 2Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Gallery

Historical Info

FV 3805 side view

Shortly after the Brits created the FV Centurion, the engineers did what all great engineers so, they worked out how to stick bigger and more powerful guns onto this time proven chassis. The FV 3805 was developed to complete the idea of the Universal tanks that Britain had been seeking for some time, in this case; the medium gun self propelled version. It was a Centurion tank with a casemate replacing the turret, reversed transmission and what looks like a short barrel version of the BL 5.5" Mk 3 medium gun firing over the engine deck. The Israelis also have an SPG based on the Centurion with NATO name M-72 wielding a M-71 155mm ordnance in a new turret on a new upper hull. It had a hatch in the front glacis beside the driver's position for easier access and escape. Only the FV3802 and FV3805's were prototyped. And none were put into production and I don’t know why, maybe the Abbot design was deemed better, or maybe the War office, now known as the MOD decided that heavy SPG’s were a soviet thing and by Jove they were not going to go down that route. It would appear from further rooting around in my library that it was more an issue of standardisation within NATO, and the upcoming joint European SPG project that was never completed but ran behind the scenes to produce the AS90 while the Abbot served as out primary Arty.

The FV3805 prototype was completed in 1957 and had hydraulic brakes and steering. Along with the features mentioned above the driver was positioned above the level of the engine bay roof to the left of the ordnance and the vehicle's forward direction was to the rear of a Centurion tank, for those of you who have read my previous posts, this is not an uncommon trait, the Archer tank destroyer had a similar method of driving and shooting, so this Arty piece wont come as a shock to some players. The barrel of the main gun was much shorter than the BL 5.5” Mk 3 medium gun and was considered a howitzer designed for shorter high angled shots, while its bigger cousin with the 5.5 could counter Soviet heavy guns. Crew was only four with driver, commander, gunner and single loader, who manually loaded the large shells; at this time I have no info on the rate of fire.

Design featuers

Power

Rolls Royce Meteor Engine

The similar looking FV3802 was the opposite of its 3805 brother in some respects; It retained the original Centurion tank's driver position and transmission arrangement and had the QF 25 Pounder gun-howitzer like above. The length was shortened and the running gear was modified and only two full twin wheels per side with an additional single wheel arrangement filling in for the rest, Both vehicles kept the Rolls-Royce Meteor engine 650 hp (480 kW) , and “frontal” armour was still believed to be at 180mm (including slope) speed would have been slightly faster than the Centurions 22mphm due to less turret weight/power, but only marginally due to heavier ammo and rear casemate. Both designs look to use the Horstman suspension type for durability and ease of repair (Horstman Suspension is named after the engineer Sidney Horstman who designed the self contained coil spring bogie system, In this patent he refers to the use of a torsion bar to support the vehicle weight. This was around 9 years before Ferdinand Porsche founded his design company, while long dead the company now survives as: Horstmann Defence Systems Ltd – and there looking for engineers in fluid suspension. anyway I digress)

Superstructore

From the images of the FV3802 it would appear to have a semi turret within the casemate and not a ball and socket type joint, from guesswork until I can have a root in the deeper archives I would estimate it has a traverse of about 140 degrees with 70 to either side and an elevation of about 45-50 degrees the FV3805 seems to very similar but with a (and again guess work) longer recoil I would think its elevation is more limited to 40-45 degrees. From the Photos and comparing it to known parts of the Centurion hull, the front of the casemate appears to me 7cm dovetail and welded plate, so 70mm of frontal turret armor and 180 effective on the hull. frontal shots can be harder for scouts than expected, obvious weak spots: (which are a novelty for Arty, who generally consist of any bit on the screen as a weak spot) are the large loaders hatch on the casemate side, and the spotting and viewing “bucket” on the casemate top. There would also appear to be a large loading bay or door on the back of the casemate. The commander appears to be in the top left of the FV3802.

Firepower

FV3805 on trials

The FV3805 mounted the 5.5 inch 140mm gun was based on the BL 5.5 Inch medium gun introduced in 1941 to North Africa as a towed piece. It fired to separate rounds the heavy and light the heavy shell weighed 100 lb shell and with 4 charges in two cartridges gave it a MV of 1675 feet per second and a range of about 16km. In 1944 an 82 lb shell was introduced with the Super charge round giving a maximum range table MV of 1950 feet per second of 18Km The lighter shell contained 1.5 lbs more HE and gradually replaced the heavier shell, for gaming purposes I would say the heavier shell is used for AP, and use the KE from its weight of impact? In addition to HE there were several chemical (90 – 98 lbs) and colored smoke shells (100 lb only), colored flare was developed, which would be good for those night battles I’ve been after.

5.5 inch howitzer

The 5.5-inch Gun was one of the two British medium guns of World War 2, which both used the same carriage (the other was the 4.5-inch Gun). It first entered service in 1942 replacing 6-inch Howitzers in medium regiments. It had limited service in Indian regiments and equipped a South African and three Canadian regiments in Europe. It was popular and recognized as an effective gun, however, there was a problem with bore premature, particularly in Burma and in late 1944 some 5.5-inch were temporarily replaced by old 6-inch howitzers in that theatre. Initially it had a 100 lb shell but later in the war an 80 lb shell was introduced and this eventually replaced the 100 lb. It left British service in the mid-1970s, UK last used them operationally in Borneo and Radfan in the mid-1960s and the last round was fired in UK was in 1995. Its last operational use seems to have been with the South African Defence Force in Angola in the 1980s. In European countries it was referred to as the 140-mm (or 14-cm) gun.

Self propelled varians

No SP versions ever entered service although an SP was the highest priority equipment at the end on WW2. After WW2 there was an open SP built on the Crusader gun tractor, some design work on FV 305, a 5.5-inch SP using the proposed FV 300 series carriage, it was cancelled in 1948. However, in 1950 a new SP design started, FV 3805, based on a Centurion tank chassis. A prototype was built, it had a fully enclosed fighting compartment and a barbette mounted gun. It was cancelled in about 1958.

Proposed variants

FV3801 - Gun Tractor

FV3802 - 25pdr SP Artillery Field Equipments

FV3803 - Command Post Vehicle

FV3804 - Ammonution Vehicle

FV3805 - 5.5 inch SP Gun - built two prototypes

FV3806 - 7.2 inch SP Gun

FV3807 - 120mm SP AT Gun

FV3808 - SP Mounting, Medium

FV3809 - 155mm SP AT Gun


Historical Gallery


UK
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Heavy Tanks VChurchill I VExcelsior VIChurchill VII VITOG II* VIIBlack Prince VIIFV201 (A45) VIIICaernarvon IXConqueror XFV215b XSuper Conqueror
Tank Destroyers IIUniversal Carrier 2-pdr IIIValentine AT IVAlecto VArcher VAT 2 VIChurchill Gun Carrier VIAchilles VIAT 8 VIIChallenger VIIAT 15A VIIAT 7 VIIIAT 15 VIIICharioteer IXTortoise IXFV4004 Conway XFV215b (183) XFV4005 Stage II
Self-Propelled Artillery IILoyd Gun Carriage IIISexton II IIISexton I IVBirch Gun VBishop VIFV304 VIICrusader 5.5-in. SP VIIIFV207 IXFV3805 XConqueror Gun Carriage
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UK IILoyd Gun Carriage IIISexton II IIISexton I IVBirch Gun VBishop VIFV304 VIICrusader 5.5-in. SP VIIIFV207 IXFV3805 XConqueror Gun Carriage
Germany IIG.Pz. Mk. VI (e) IIISturmpanzer I Bison IIIWespe IVPz.Sfl. IVb IVSturmpanzer II VGrille VIHummel VIIG.W. Panther VIIIG.W. Tiger (P) IXG.W. Tiger XG.W. E 100
France IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
USSR IISU-18 IIISU-26 IVSU-5 VSU-122A VISU-8 VIIS-51 VIISU-14-1 VIIISU-14-2 IX212A XObject 261
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