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Ikv 65 Alt II

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933,000  Credits Cost
650130 HP Hit Points
10.75/114.88/14 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Driver
  3. Gunner
  4. Loader
Mobility
190215 hp Engine Power
60/20 km/h Speed Limit
3032 deg/s Traverse
17.6744.06 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
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240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage
155/230/45180/230/45 mm Penetration



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6.59 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 9.1 s
50% Crew: 11.27 s
75% Crew: 9.84 s
100% Crew: 8.73 s
Rammer: 7.86 s
Vents: 8.54 s
Both: 7.68 s
Both and BiA: 7.52 s
Both and Max Crew %: 7.21 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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6.19 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 9.7 s
50% Crew: 12.02 s
75% Crew: 10.49 s
100% Crew: 9.3 s
Rammer: 8.37 s
Vents: 9.1 s
Both: 8.19 s
Both and BiA: 8.01 s
Both and Max Crew %: 7.68 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1581.6

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1581.6
50% Crew: 1276.8
75% Crew: 1461.6
100% Crew: 1648.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1684.8
Rammer: 1831.2
Both: 1874.4
Both and BiA: 1915.2
Both and Max Crew %: 1996.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1821.6
50% Crew: 1516.8
75% Crew: 1701.6
100% Crew: 1888.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 2071.2
Vents: 1924.8
Both: 2114.4
Both and BiA: 2155.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2236.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1581.6
50% Crew: 1276.8
75% Crew: 1461.6
100% Crew: 1648.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1684.8
Rammer: 1831.2
Both: 1874.4
Both and BiA: 1915.2
Both and Max Crew %: 1996.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1821.6
50% Crew: 1516.8
75% Crew: 1701.6
100% Crew: 1888.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 2071.2
Vents: 1924.8
Both: 2114.4
Both and BiA: 2155.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2236.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2108.8
50% Crew: 1702.4
75% Crew: 1948.8
100% Crew: 2198.4
100% Crew
Vents: 2246.4
Rammer: 2441.6
Both: 2499.2
Both and BiA: 2553.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2662.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2428.8
50% Crew: 2022.4
75% Crew: 2268.8
100% Crew: 2518.4
100% Crew
Rammer: 2761.6
Vents: 2566.4
Both: 2819.2
Both and BiA: 2873.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2982.4

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1485.6

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1485.6
50% Crew: 1200
75% Crew: 1372.8
100% Crew: 1550.4
100% Crew
Vents: 1586.4
Rammer: 1723.2
Both: 1761.6
Both and BiA: 1800
Both and Max Crew %: 1879.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1725.6
50% Crew: 1440
75% Crew: 1612.8
100% Crew: 1790.4
100% Crew
Rammer: 1963.2
Vents: 1826.4
Both: 2001.6
Both and BiA: 2040
Both and Max Crew %: 2119.2

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1485.6
50% Crew: 1200
75% Crew: 1372.8
100% Crew: 1550.4
100% Crew
Vents: 1586.4
Rammer: 1723.2
Both: 1761.6
Both and BiA: 1800
Both and Max Crew %: 1879.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1725.6
50% Crew: 1440
75% Crew: 1612.8
100% Crew: 1790.4
100% Crew
Rammer: 1963.2
Vents: 1826.4
Both: 2001.6
Both and BiA: 2040
Both and Max Crew %: 2119.2

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1980.8
50% Crew: 1600
75% Crew: 1830.4
100% Crew: 2067.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2115.2
Rammer: 2297.6
Both: 2348.8
Both and BiA: 2400
Both and Max Crew %: 2505.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2300.8
50% Crew: 1920
75% Crew: 2150.4
100% Crew: 2387.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2617.6
Vents: 2435.2
Both: 2668.8
Both and BiA: 2720
Both and Max Crew %: 2825.6

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.34 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.421 m
With 75% Crew: 0.368 m
With 100% Crew: 0.326 m
With BiA: 0.319 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m
Maximum possible: 0.299 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.1 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.601 s
With 75% Crew: 2.271 s
With 100% Crew: 2.014 s
With GLD: 1.831 s
With BiA: 1.969 s
With BiA and Vents: 1.926 s
With both and GLD: 1.751 s
Maximum possible: 1.679 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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1.9 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.354 s
With 75% Crew: 2.055 s
With 100% Crew: 1.822 s
With GLD: 1.656 s
With BiA: 1.782 s
With BiA and Vents: 1.743 s
With both and GLD: 1.584 s
Maximum possible: 1.519 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
2424 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
30° Gun Arc
-10°/+12°-10°/+12° Elevation Arc
4040 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1515 % Chance of Fire






330 m 

With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






330 m 

With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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455 m 

With 50% Crew: 357.5 m
With 75% Crew: 406.3 m
With 100% Crew: 455 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 546 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 500.5 m
Maximum possible: 654.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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615 m 

With 50% Crew: 483.2 m
With 75% Crew: 549.2 m
With 100% Crew: 615 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 738 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 676.5 m
Maximum possible: 884.9 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
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Ikv 65 Alt II


VI

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933000

The Ikv 65 Alt II is a Swedish tier 6 tank destroyer.

In the mid-1960s, the Swedish Ministry of Defense laid out requirements for a new light tank. The lightly armored vehicle should combine high speed and maneuverability with powerful armament that would be sufficient to oppose modern tanks and provide fire support to the infantry. Landsverk developed several projects with both a rotating turret and a gun mounted on a stationary superstructure. They were essentially tank destroyers. Development of the project was discontinued at the drafting and modelling stage.

The Ikv 65 still retains the "glass cannon" traits from its predecessor. It has great mobility and a small size that provides a great camouflage rating, but also doesn't have armor protection. This tank destroyer abandons the traits from the early Ikv project that classed it as an infantry support SPG in real life, with powerful derp shot but awful gun handling. Instead, the Ikv 65 offers much better gun handling and excellent penetration in exchange for much lower alpha damage. That makes it the true sniper in its tier.

The Ikv 65 Alt II leads to the Ikv 90 Typ B.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI 9 cm Bofors L/43 155/230/45 240/240/320 6.59 0.36 2.1 600 72000
VII 9 cm Bofors L/53 180/230/45 240/240/320 6.19 0.34 1.9 815 84000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V Volvo TD 70 A 190 15 660 12100
V GM 6V 53 215 15 700 15300

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V Ikv 65 Alt II 11 30 0 3000 8800
VI Ikv 65 Alt III 14 32 0 3000 15100

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII Ra 100 455 14 23500
VIII Ra 105 525 8 24800
IX Ra 146 615 12 33600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Light Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 3 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters Manual Fire Extinguisher Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Coffee with Cinnamon Buns Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Very high top speed and acceleration due to low weight

- Satisfactory penetration and damage, especially at top tier

- Excellent turning. Can spin quickly directly after moving

- Maintains its trait of plentiful gun depression

- Exceptional camouflage ratings

- Reverse speed allows the tank to hide as soon as it is spotted

- Very playable stock, with good mobility and a gun that has decent penetration


Cons:

- By far the lowest DPM of any Tier VI TD; the Jagdpanzer IV has almost 1k more (70%!)

- Absolutely no armor, most guns' HE shells can rip it to pieces; easily one-shotted by howitzers and can be a prized target to SPG's

- Reasonably tight horizontal gun arc

- Gun's accuracy demands some aim time

- Long reload for a gun with this damage

- Mediocre momentum; often swings when braking at high speed, combined with a tight gun arc makes it unsuitable for snapshots

- Tends to getting flipped a lot when running over some small rocks due to instability issues

- Engine gets hit a lot

- Limited gun elevation when on a downward slope


Performance

This tank is a great sniper, and was built to be. Take advantage of your good gun depression and high pen to snipe away at tanks from far away. If things get too hairy you can run away and relocate. With your top speed you can also act as a ninja TD in some cases, and sometimes be able to flank enemy tank destroyers! Some reliable tactics are to use the excellent reverse speed of 20kmh and your reasonably small profile to kite enemies around terrain such as rocks and undulations to make up for your terrible DPM. Use this to out-trade opponents with higher DPM than you and remain reasonably healthy for late game. Another technique is to train a camo crew and abuse concealment like a light tank. The mobility allows it to comfortably go up to a bush, proc. binoculars, pull back and shoot your enemy.


Early Research

- Only the Ra 146 radio carries over from the Ikv 103
- Choice of researching the top gun for better gun handling or the engine. Upgraded tracks are required for the gun.
- Finish any remaining modules


Suggested Equipment


Tank Gun Rammer Camouflage Net Binocular Telescope Improved Ventilation


Gallery

Historical Info

After the Ikv 103 it wouldn't be until the mid-60's before the Ikv concept was brought up again, but this time with an emphasis on being able to fight tanks and other AFV’s. In total three different companies were asked to submit their designs for the new Ikv, which they called Ikv 65. First there was Landsverk, who had produced the other Ikv’s. Then there was Hägglunds, who had just started producing their armoured personel carrier design for the Swedish army, and finally there was Bofors, who was also developing the S-tank. Of all these companies Landsverk was the most experienced, having produced virtually every Swedish tank design from the 1930's to the 1950's. However Landsverk had fallen on hard times after losing the contract for the army’s new APC to Hägglunds, but it was decided to make a last ditch effort to keep the military part of the company going and five different designs were submitted for the new Ikv project. The first proposal was essentially a rebuilt Ikv 103 with a bigger superstructure and bigger engine. The main armament, shared between all the proposals, was a Bofors 90mm L/54 low pressure gun, developed from the Pvpj1110 recoilless rifle. There was however a number of versions of this gun considered (although not directly by Landsverk).

Ikv 65 proposal 1

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The other Ikv 65 proposals used their own original suspension and did not vary that much from each other, except for the final design, which was to be based of the Pbv 302 APC chassis and was to have a fully traversable turret.

Ikv 65 proposal 2

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Ikv 65 proposal 3

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Ikv 65 proposal 4

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Ikv 65 proposal 5

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Despite the Landsverk design being the one preferred by the Army, it was ultimately decided to go with the Hägglunds design due to the greater interchangeability of parts between the new Ikv and the Hägglunds-designed and built Pbv 302 APC. Eventually this led to the production Ikv 91 in 1975, but that is a story for another part. After losing the contract for the Ikv 91, Landsverk did shut down its military design section and focused on the production of civilian excavators. After that it wasn’t long until the remaining part of the company was sold off to Volvo BM, and by the mid-70's Landsverk was shut down for good.

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This was Landsverk’s most detailed one and the one they favored. A very detailed scale model was built, but since a competitor’s design was chosen instead the design otherwise remained on paper.


Historical Gallery

Sweden
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Medium Tanks IVLago VStrv m/42 VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 VIStrv 74 VIILeo VIIIStrv 81 VIIIPrimo Victoria VIIILansen C VIIIUDES 14 Alt 5 IXUDES 16 XUDES 15/16
Heavy Tanks VIIIEmil I VIIIEMIL 1951 VIIIBofors Tornvagn IXEmil II IXStrv K XKranvagn
Tank Destroyers IIPvlvv fm/42 IIIIkv 72 IVSav m/43 VIkv 103 VIIkv 65 Alt II VIIIkv 90 Typ B VIIIUDES 03 VIIIStrv S1 IXStrv 103-0 XStrv 103B
Self-Propelled Artillery
Tank Destroyers
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UK IIUniversal Carrier 2-pdr IVValentine AT IVAlecto VArcher VAT 2 VIChurchill Gun Carrier VIAchilles VIAT 8 VIExcalibur VIIChallenger VIIAT 15A VIIAT 7 VIIIGSOR 1008 VIIIAT 15 VIIICharioteer VIIITurtle Mk. I IXTortoise IXFV4004 Conway XFV215b (183) XFV4005 Stage II XFV217 Badger
Germany IIPanzerjäger I IIIMarder II IVStuG III Ausf. B IVPz.Sfl. IC IVJagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer IVMarder 38T VStuG IV VPz.Sfl. IVc VStuG III Ausf. G VIDicker Max VIJagdpanzer IV VINashorn VIIE 25 VIIKrupp-Steyr Waffenträger VIIJagdpanther VIISturer Emil VIIIFerdinand VIIIKanonenjagdpanzer 105 VIIIRheinmetall Skorpion G VIIIRheinmetall Skorpion VIIIJagdpanther II VIII8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger VIIIRhm.-Borsig Waffenträger IXJagdtiger IXWaffenträger auf Pz. IV XGrille 15 XJagdpanzer E 100 XWaffenträger auf E 100
France IIRenault FT AC IIIFCM 36 Pak 40 IIIRenault UE 57 IVSomua SAu 40 VM10 RBFM VS35 CA VIARL V39 VIIAMX AC mle. 46 VIIIAMX AC mle. 48 VIIIAMX Canon d'assaut 105 IXAMX 50 Foch XAMX 50 Foch (155) XAMX 50 Foch B
USSR IIAT-1 IIISU-76I IVSU-85A IVSU-76M VSU-85 VSU-85I VISU-100 VISU-100Y VIIISU-122S VIISU-152 VIISU-100M1 VIISU-122-44 VIIIISU-152 VIIIISU-130 VIIIKV-4 KTTS VIIIT-103 VIIISU-130PM VIIIISU-152K VIIISU-101 IXK-91-PT IXObject 704 IXObject 263 XObject 268 XObject 268 Version V XObject 268 Version 4
China IIT-26G FT IIIM3G FT IVSU-76G FT V60G FT VIWZ-131G FT VIIT-34-2G FT VIIIWZ-111-1G FT VIIIWZ-120-1G FT IXWZ-111G FT IXWZ-120G FT XWZ-113G FT X114 SP2
Japan
Czechoslovakia VIIIShPTK-TVP 100
Sweden IIPvlvv fm/42 IIIIkv 72 IVSav m/43 VIkv 103 VIIkv 65 Alt II VIIIkv 90 Typ B VIIIUDES 03 VIIIStrv S1 IXStrv 103-0 XStrv 103B
Italy VSemovente M41 VISemovente M43 Bassotto VIISMV CC-56 VIIISMV CC-64 Vipera VIIISMV CC-67 IXControcarro 1 Mk. 2 XControcarro 3 Minotauro
Poland
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