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Emil II

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[Client Values; Actual values in
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3,550,000  Credits Cost
17001700 HP Hit Points
37.65/3836.9/40 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator, Loader)
  2. Driver
  3. Gunner (Loader)
Mobility
400520 hp Engine Power
56/18 km/h Speed Limit
2730 deg/s Traverse
10.6214.09 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
80/60/30 mm Hull Armor
215/60/30215/60/30 mm Turret Armor
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320/320/420400/400/515 HP Damage
217/242/53252/300/60 mm Penetration



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6.15 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 3 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 30 s
50% Crew: 38.18 s
75% Crew: 33.6 s
100% Crew: 30 s
With Vents: 29.31 s
With Vents and BiA: 28.77 s

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4.8 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 3.33 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 40 s
50% Crew: 50.91 s
75% Crew: 44.8 s
100% Crew: 40 s
With Vents: 39.09 s
With Vents and BiA: 38.35 s

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Rate of Fire






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2310.4

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (320 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2310.4
50% Crew: 2188.8
75% Crew: 2256
100% Crew: 2310.4
With Vents: 2323.2
With Vents and BiA: 2332.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2576
50% Crew: 2505.6
75% Crew: 2544
100% Crew: 2576
With Vents: 2582.4
With Vents and BiA: 2585.6

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (320 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2310.4
50% Crew: 2188.8
75% Crew: 2256
100% Crew: 2310.4
With Vents: 2323.2
With Vents and BiA: 2332.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2576
50% Crew: 2505.6
75% Crew: 2544
100% Crew: 2576
With Vents: 2582.4
With Vents and BiA: 2585.6

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (420 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3032.4
50% Crew: 2872.8
75% Crew: 2961
100% Crew: 3032.4
With Vents: 3049.2
With Vents and BiA: 3061.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3381
50% Crew: 3288.6
75% Crew: 3339
100% Crew: 3381
With Vents: 3389.4
With Vents and BiA: 3393.6

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2268

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2268
50% Crew: 2200
75% Crew: 2240
100% Crew: 2268
With Vents: 2276
With Vents and BiA: 2280

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2452
50% Crew: 2424
75% Crew: 2440
100% Crew: 2452
With Vents: 2452
With Vents and BiA: 2456

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2268
50% Crew: 2200
75% Crew: 2240
100% Crew: 2268
With Vents: 2276
With Vents and BiA: 2280

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2452
50% Crew: 2424
75% Crew: 2440
100% Crew: 2452
With Vents: 2452
With Vents and BiA: 2456

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2920.05
50% Crew: 2832.5
75% Crew: 2884
100% Crew: 2920.05
With Vents: 2930.35
With Vents and BiA: 2935.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3156.95
50% Crew: 3120.9
75% Crew: 3141.5
100% Crew: 3156.95
With Vents: 3156.95
With Vents and BiA: 3162.1

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Damage Per Minute


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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

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0.38 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.471 m
With 75% Crew: 0.411 m
With 100% Crew: 0.364 m
With BiA: 0.356 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.349 m
Maximum possible: 0.334 m

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3 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.716 s
With 75% Crew: 3.245 s
With 100% Crew: 2.877 s
With GLD: 2.615 s
With BiA: 2.813 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.752 s
With both and GLD: 2.502 s
Maximum possible: 2.398 s

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2.8 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.469 s
With 75% Crew: 3.029 s
With 100% Crew: 2.685 s
With GLD: 2.441 s
With BiA: 2.626 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.569 s
With both and GLD: 2.335 s
Maximum possible: 2.238 s

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Aim time
2020 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-12°/+8°-12°/+8° Elevation Arc
4040 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1515 % Chance of Fire






380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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View Range


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710 m 

With 50% Crew: 557.8 m
With 75% Crew: 634 m
With 100% Crew: 710 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 852 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 781 m
Maximum possible: 1021.6 m

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850 m 

With 50% Crew: 667.8 m
With 75% Crew: 759 m
With 100% Crew: 850 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 1020 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 935 m
Maximum possible: 1223.1 m

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Signal Range
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The Emil II is a Swedish tier 9 heavy tank.

A variant of the heavy tank developed under the project of 1949. In 1952, three heavy tank projects were proposed. The EMIL 1952 E2 was the second variant. Depending on the armor and mounted engine, the weight of the vehicle varied from 34 to 39 tons. However, at the end of 1952, development of the Е2 version was discontinued in favor of the Е3 version, which had similar characteristics but improved armor.

The Emil II leads to the Kranvagn.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IX 10,5 cm TK 105-9 217/242/53 320/320/420 6.15 0.36 3 2390 165000
X 12 cm akan L/40 252/300/60 400/400/515 4.8 0.38 2.8 1600 320000

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IX Emil II 215/60/30 20 380 14000 55000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IX AV-1195 400 15 845 75000
IX AVS-1195 520 15 900 83000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII Emil II 1 a 38 27 B/2 7500 28000
IX Emil II 1 b 40 30 B/2 7500 64200

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IX Ra 400 710 45 44200
X Ra 421 850 27 57200


Compatible Equipment

Vertical Stabilizer Mk 2 Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Torsion Bars 5+ t Class Improved Ventilation Class 3 Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Coffee with Cinnamon Buns Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Virtually impenetrable frontal turret armor with extremely small weak points.
  • Decent mobility for a heavy
  • 12 degrees of gun depression which is better than any other tier 9 tank


Cons:


  • Poor side and rear armor
  • Cupolas on top of turret become more exposed when using more gun depression


Gallery

Historical Info

In 1952, the development of the next Swedish tank was well underway – despite the fact the work started as early as in 1951, it was only now when it really picked up the pace. In 1952, the project was reworked from a set of basic requirements and schematics into a functional design. More outlandish ideas were scrapped in favor of technologies, that had already been prototyped or tested and several new ideas were being tested as well. As an example, the suspension was changed to a hydraulic one, based on the Lvkv 42 prototype self-propelled anti-aircraft gun and work started on a prototype gun on the basis of the old 15cm Haub m/39 howitzer.


The EMIL project started out in 1951 as more of a medium tank, but in 1952, the army, like other western nations, decided that they needed something to counter the Soviet IS-3 heavy tank and it was this line of thought, that would above all else shape the EMIL project after 1951.

The main inspiration for the design seems to have been drawn, initially at least, from the French and German tank designs – more specifically from the new AMX 13, which had recently been tested in Sweden, as well as the German Panther. The influence of these tanks can be seen in the addition of a French style oscillating turret with an autoloader and the well-sloped frontal glacis. But in 1952, as the design was being reworked, it was decided to borrow the Soviet idea of the pike nose in order to increase the effective thickness even further.

Although all were based around the same principles, there were several different variants of the EMIL, specificially there were three main ones. First was the E1, which was to correspond with the 1951 proposal, but with the new pike nose front and with an American tank engine instead of a Swedish one. The second design was called E2 and was a sort of a middle range model, which would be heavier than the E1, but also would be able to carry a 15cm smoothbore instead of the 12cm rifled gun, planned for the earlier models. The E2 was also able to sport a bigger engine and this design was considered as the most realistic one, since there was no guarantee that a bigger engine could be acquired. Last was the E3, which was the top range model with a weight of over 40 tons and an American 810hp engine, this was at the time seen as a bit too heavy and unrealistic, but as the engine became available, this design was chosen and two hulls were built in 1955.

A chart with various models

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Some of the other variables that separated the designs included front and side armor for the hull and turret, engine output, main armament and suspension. In the case of frontal armor, there was a choice of either having a 120mm hull and 140mm turret armor or 145mm hull and 170mm turret armor, these thicknesses were specifically chosen to be able to withstand a frontal hit from the IS-3 heavy tank with either (in the first case) regular AP ammo or (in the latter) subcaliber ammo. Side armor was divided into 3 options: first was a 20mm hull and 40mm turret, 2nd was a 30mm hull and 60mm turret and third was a 40mm hull and 80mm turret. The rest of the armor was common to all variants of the tank. This included the hull roof, driver’s port (middle front glacis) and floor. The rear armor was 30mm for all the variants except for the one with 40mm side armor, where the rear was also 40mm thick.

One of the most important variables was the engine output. As mentioned before, the engines considered were American tank engines, mainly from Continental. These included the AOS-195 (500hp), AV-1195 (540hp), AVS-1195 (665-668hp) and AV-1790 (810hp) models. Initially, it was thought that the acquisition of the more powerful engines wouldn’t be possible and therefore initial projections favored a middle range tank model in both weight and armor, but as negotiations continued, an example of the 810hp was acquired and considered for licensed production at SFA (the Swedish aircraft engine company). This meant that there were no longer any problems with the engine output for the tank and that the development of the top range model could be pursued. However, as the development of the tank continued, it was decided to use a Swedish engine instead, as one of sufficient power had been developed at SFA. The new engine was very powerful at around 900hp, but the power required to run the cooling system meant that when it was finally tested on the prototypes in 1955, it could only deliver 723hp with the rest being used up by the cooling system itself.

Even before 1951, studies had been made regarding the armament of what would become the EMIL project. These studies had concluded that the best armament for a future tank project would be a high caliber gun (12cm or higher) in order to effectively use HEAT shells. But these were no regular HEAT shells – in fact the Swedish idea was to mix the properties of APDS and HEAT to create a heat shell with a discarding sabot. This would allow the shell to travel much faster than a normal HEAT shell. Ultimately, the development of these munitions would prove impossible for Sweden and would be a major reason behind the cancellation of the project. The actual gun considered to use this kind of shell was at first a 12cm L/40 rifled gun and later a 15cm L/40 smoothbore gun. Besides the HEAT shells, these guns were to fire mainly HE, although there were plans for APDS ammunition as well. There were also plans for a 10,5cm gun in case the development of the previously mentioned guns would prove too complicated. One thing of note is that the 150mm gun is not viable for World of Tanks, as it is a smoothbore.

Drawing comparing the different gun options

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Suspension was another thing that varied quite a bit between the different designs. We know that there were plans for up to 8 roadwheels per side, but the final prototypes ended up with 6 per side.

I should state however that some changes were made to the EMIL project after the completion of the prototypes in 1955. The main change was to the turret armor which was changed from the planned 170/80/40 to 170/70/30 in order to stabilize the gun better, elevation also changed from +8/-12 to +10/-12. Other than that, there were plans to potentially mount a British or French gun on the vehicle in 1958 after the development of a suitable Swedish one had failed.

So to summarize, the Emil was to be a heavily armored but mobile tank with a weight of under 50 tons and a 10,5-15cm gun, capable of dealing with the IS-3 at long range. So you might be thinking, why was it that this tank never entered production? Well, initially the idea was that this tank would replace the WW2 vintage Strv m/42, but the gap between the two tanks would mean that Sweden would be without a modern tank during most of the 1950′s, until a production version of the EMIL was ready. What happened instead was that Sweden purchased the British Centurion tank as a stopgap measure and with the development of the L7 gun in the late 50′, there was no longer a need for the EMIL project. However, some work continued on the prototype chassis which had been named “Kranvagn” (crane vehicle) to confuse any potential spy.

Akv 151 prototype SPG

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Work on a new 15cm autoloading SPG had been in progress since before the EMIL project and a version based on the EMIL hull had been in the work since the start of the project. After the initial testing in 1955-1956, it was decided that one of the prototype hulls would be converted to this SPG configuration. This vehicle prototype was built in 1960 and would eventually become the Bkan 1, but that is a story for another time

There was also an idea to mount the Centurion Mk.10 turret on the Krv chassis in order to create a competitor to the Centurion Mk.10, but in the end, the Swedish army decided that it would be simpler if they just purchased the whole Centurion Mk.10 instead. However there were also plans to let a vehicle in this configuration serve as a prototype for future turreted tank concepts in Sweden, but nothing ever came of this. Instead, the remaining prototype had 4 of its roadwheels removed and was fitted with equipment for testing of the hydraulic suspension as well as a fixed 20pdr gun and was used as a test rig for the S-tank. This prototype chassis still exist in the Arsenalen museum, although it’s currently in storage and not on display.

Interpretation of the Centurion/Kranvagn hybrid

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Kranvagn chassis during suspension testing for the S tank project

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Last time the Krv chassis was seen by the public was its move to the new Arsenalen museeum storage

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Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

* The frontal hull armor is decreased from the historical proposal, from the historical 95mm of the upper glacis and the 145 mm of the lower glacis, to the in game 80mm of the upper glacis and the 115mm of the lower glacis.
  • The side hull armor is increased from the historical 30mm to 60mm in game.
  • The turret frontal armor is increased from the historical proposal from 170 mm to the in game 215 mm.
  • Engine power and subsequent power to weight are lower then documented. Historical documents have the tank with a 665hp engine giving a power to weight of 17.97hp/t


Sweden
Light Tanks IStrv fm/21 IIStrv m/38 IIL-60 IIIStrv m/40L
Medium Tanks IVLago VStrv m/42 VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 VIStrv 74 VIILeo VIIIPrimo Victoria
Heavy Tanks VIIIEmil I IXEmil II XKranvagn
Tank Destroyers IIPvlvv fm/42 IIIIkv 72 IVSav m/43 VIkv 103 VIIkv 65 Alt II VIIIkv 90 Typ B VIIIUDES 03 VIIIStrv S1 IXStrv 103-0 XStrv 103B
Self-Propelled Artillery
Heavy Tanks
USA VT14 VT1 Heavy Tank VIM6 VIIT29 VIIIT26E5 VIIIM6A2E1 VIIIT32 VIIIT34 VIIIT34 B IXM103 XT110E5 XT57 Heavy Tank
UK VChurchill I VExcelsior VIChurchill VII VITOG II* VIIBlack Prince VIIFV201 (A45) VIIICaernarvon IXConqueror XFV215b
Germany IVPz.Kpfw. B2 740 (f) IVDurchbruchswagen 2 VVK 30.01 (H) VITiger 131 VIVK 36.01 (H) VIIVK 45.03 VIITiger I VIITiger (P) VIIIVK 100.01 (P) VIIILöwe VIIITiger II VIIIVK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A IXE 75 IXMäuschen IXVK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B XE 100 XPz.Kpfw. VII XMaus XVK 72.01 (K)
France IVB1 VBDR G1 B VIARL 44 VIIAMX M4 mle. 45 VIIIAMX 50 100 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 VIIIFCM 50 t IXAMX 50 120 XAMX 50 B
USSR VChurchill III VKV-1S VKV-220-2 VKV-220-2 Beta Test VKV-1 VIKV-2 VIKV-85 VIT-150 VIIIS VIIKV-3 VIIKV-122 VIIIS-2 VIIIIS-3 VIIIIS-6 VIIIKV-5 VIIIKV-4 VIIIIS-5 (Object 730) VIIIIS-3A VIIIKV-4 Kreslavskiy VIIIObject 252U Defender VIIIObject 252U IXT-10 IXST-I XIS-4 XIS-7 XObject 260
China VIIIS-2 VIIIWZ-111 VIII110 VIII112 IXWZ-111 model 1-4 X113 XWZ-111 model 5A
Japan IIIType 91 Heavy IVType 95 Heavy VO-I Experimental VIHeavy Tank No. VI VIO-I VIIO-Ni VIIIO-Ho IXType 4 Heavy XType 5 Heavy
Czechoslovakia
Sweden VIIIEmil I IXEmil II XKranvagn

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