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GAZ-74b (Stock)

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Totals
124000 Price
260 Hit Points
12.03 / 12.4 kgWeight
Crew
  1. Commander
Armor
25/15/15Hull Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
0/15/0Turret Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
Maneuver
140 h.p.Engine Power
43 km/hSpeed Limit
38 deg/secTraverse Speed
Firepower
110 Standard Shell Damage
78 mmStandard Shell Penetration
3.4 Time for Complete Loading
44 deg/secTurret Traverse Speed
Communication
390 mView Range
325 mSignal Range
IV
SU-85B
124000
A further modernization of the SU-76, upgraded with an extended chassis. Developed in the winter of 1944–1945. Never saw mass production.

It is very similar to the SU-76 in characteristics, except that it mounts a larger gun and has a greatly increased gun arc. Many players find that this tank destroyer can double as a scout. Though not the fastest, it still proves effective. The SU-85B is able to perform reconnaissance with intent to survive, unlike others that are often-times destroyed. Should you see someone noteworthy, many players choose to remain hidden and keep the target marked for attack. With a top speed of 43 km/h, and a view range of 390m, it has the ability to fire over long ranges and get away faster than most tanks in its tier, making it a great tank for sniping or hit and run tactics. Either way, should you choose to scout or attack, the AP round is able to make quick work of low-tier tanks, and damage some larger ones. The SU-85B is able to mount the D-5S 85-A and LB-2S guns, shooting 85mm rounds at a relatively high RPM. As a TD, the 85B also has a camouflage bonus. All this comes at the cost of HP and weak armor, meaning it can not really hold up to a lot of punishment. The stock gun on 85B is the top gun of the SU-76, and is highly recommended to upgrade the gun quickly to the 85 mm D-5S-85A, and then to the 85 mm LB-2S.

SU-85B

Stock

Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun V 76 mm ZiS-3 1255 78/120/38 110/110/156 17.65 0.43 2.3
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine III GAZ-203 550 140 20
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis III SU-85B 3000 12.4 38
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio IV 9R 0 325

GAZ-74-57

Attack

Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VI 57 mm ZiS-2 850 112/189/29 85/85/95 26.09 0.34 1.7
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine III M-80 550 170 20
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis IV SU-85B 3000 15 40
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio VIII 9RM 0 525

SU-85A

Speed

Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VI 85 mm D-5S-85A 1500 119/161/43 160/160/280 13.33 0.42 2.3
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine III GMC 6004 991 210 15
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis IV SU-85B 3000 15 40
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio VIII 9RM 0 525

SU-85B

Attack

Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VI 85 mm LB-2S 1550 130/170/44 160/160/280 13.33 0.38 2.3
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine III GMC 6004 991 210 15
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis IV SU-85B 3000 15 40
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio VIII 9RM 0 525

Compatible Equipment

Small Spall Liner
Camouflage Net
Coated Optics
Enhanced Gun Laying Drive
Enhanced Torsion Bars 1 t Class
Cyclone Filter
Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer
Binocular Telescope
Toolbox
"Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher
Manual Fire Extinguisher
Large First Aid Kit
Large Repair Kit
Lend-Lease Oil
Extra Combat Rations
Removed Speed Governor
Small First Aid Kit
Small Repair Kit

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Extremely good top gun in most categories. No gun will have comparable stats to this gun until the D5T-85BM from the T-34-85/
  • Good acceleration, turn rates, and overall mobility
  • Good camouflage values
  • Excellent view range


Cons:


  • Nearly no armor, very vulnerable to HE shells
  • Limited gun depression and elevation
  • Stock gun is easily damaged
  • Ridiculously expensive guns, most costing above 50,000 credits


Performance

The SU-85B is a long range sniper, much like its predecessor SU-76. Compared to his predecessor it has a better engine and a bigger punch, but it sacrifices top speed, accuracy, gun depression and elevation for it. The SU-85B has much less problems with fast light tanks, partly due to its better performance and higher health, partly due to the fact that it will usually face larger and slower opponents. Due to its much better acceleration it feels much more nimble and is able to reach its top speed within a few seconds. It has a wider gun arc at the expense of less gun depression and elevation, which diminishes its performance on hilly ground. The SU-85B is one of the few tanks with such a small gun elevation that it feels like a handicap.

While playing the SU-85B you should always remind yourself that you're driving a small but fast tin can with a huge gun. Your only defenses are your high range and good mobility, so don't hesitate to run away if the enemy comes too close or when its foreseeable that the situation will turn against you. Your biggest vulnerability are HE shells, as you will usually die from the first hit. Consequently, the SU-85B is a common victim of arty fire, forcing the player to change position every few shots. This isn't too much of a penalty as its awesome gun not only allows to snipe effectively but it can also kill most enemies within 2-3 shots, making the SU-85B a formidable ambusher.


Early Research

  • The 57mm gun carries over from the SU-76. Install it immediately as you will need the penetration.
  • The 9RM radio also carries over from its predecessor.
  • Research the engines first, as they are inexpensive and give you great mobility.
  • Research the suspension.
  • If you stay with the 57mm after researching the first 85mm is a matter of play style.
  • The second 85mm is a fairly good gun.


Historical Info

The SU-85B (really the GAZ-74b), was a prototype based on the SU-76. The second variant (GAZ-74b), was similar to the SU-IT-76, recommended by NII-13. The vehicle had a low silhouette, was well-armored (45mm glacis plate) with sloped armor, and was armed with the 76 mm S-1 Gun (the same gun was mounted on the serially produced SU-76i). The new tank killer was to receive the GMC-71 diesel engine. The GAZ-74b was built, underwent factory testing, and on the whole approved by military personnel. Under the designation SU-76-I (not to be mistaken for SU-76i) or SU-74, it was subjected to government tests. However, in 1943, the arming of these vehicles with the 76 mm gun with a long barrel (41-calibres) was already considered inadequate for combat with heavy German tanks. The cost significantly exceeded that of the SU-76, which was already being mass produced. Therefore, the fate of the GAZ-74b was sealed.


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