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GB63_TOG_II (Stock)

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Totals
3500 Price
1400 Hit Points
81.24 / 85 kgWeight
Crew
  1. Commander
Armor
76.2/76.2/50.8Hull Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
114.3/76.2/53.3Turret Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
Maneuver
600 h.p.Engine Power
14 km/hSpeed Limit
20 deg/secTraverse Speed
Firepower
150 Standard Shell Damage
171 mmStandard Shell Penetration
5 Reload Time
32 deg/secTurret Traverse Speed
Communication
360 mView Range
570 mSignal Range
TOG II*
VI
TOG II*
3500
Developed for trench warfare. Initially, armament was to be placed in the front part of the hull and side sponsons. However, later it was decided not to add sponsons but to mount a turret. By 1943, when TOG 2* was completed and ready for trials, it was already obsolete. The vehicle never entered service.

A monstrous tank capable of absorbing a near unrealistic amount of damage for its tier, the TOG II* is longer than the Maus, with armor comparable to that of the KV-1 and a top speed of 14km/h on regular terrain. This tank is not meant to be used by inexperienced players, as its terrible top speed and large size can be frustrating, but veteran players may enjoy this tank greatly, soaking up a LOT of damage. This tank is best played when supporting as a second-line tank or defending a chokepoint, because the TOG II* is just too slow for effective attacking, and is easily ambushed. It's also probably the only tier 6 tank that can survive a penetrating hit from the KV-2's 152 mm cannon.

TOG II*

Stock

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VI TOG II* 8000 114.3/76.2/53.3 32 360
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VII OQF 17-pdr Gun Mk. VII 826 171/239/38 150/150/190 12 0.36 2.3
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine V Paxman 12TP 3000 600 15
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VI TOG II* 20000 85 20
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio IX WS No. 19 Special 0 570

Compatible Equipment

Superheavy Spall Liner
Camouflage Net
Fill Tanks with CO2
Coated Optics
Enhanced Gun Laying Drive
Enhanced Vertical Coil Springs 3 Class
Improved Ventilation Class 3
Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer
Binocular Telescope
Toolbox
"Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher
Manual Fire Extinguisher
Large First Aid Kit
Large Repair Kit
Pudding and Tea
Small First Aid Kit
Small Repair Kit

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Good RoF
  • Great gun with excellent accuracy and penetration
  • Superb health for its tier
  • Heavy weight makes it resistant to ramming
  • Huge ammo capacity


Cons:


  • Longest tank in-game (Maus is larger by ground area, but is shorter than the TOG).
  • Low alpha damage
  • Very poor top speed makes it one of the slowest tanks in the game
  • Large ammo rack
  • Armor is mostly flat


Performance

It's extremely important to use this tank near the cover of buildings or mountains, as it is an artillery magnet at all times. The gun is very accurate and capable of penetrating tier 7 tanks and below. The TOG II is so big that you will be taking damage from most sources. Fortunately, the HP is so great that you will be able to absorb most of that damage while your allies takes advantage and destroy your foes. Preventing the enemy from shooting the extremly long sides of the tank (unless you manage to angle them to the point your enemies' shots bounce off) is still often key to success when driving this tank.

You can play this tank's large size to your advantage. As you creep towards the enemy base you can be a perfect meat shield for allies and while the exposed enemy intends to kill you, your allies can rightly pinpoint and destroy your attackers and you can effectively roadblock a LOT of areas. Choose a spot and even once destroyed you'll ensure that you'll have blocked that path forever. This is particularly useful on maps with narrow entries.

In a more competitive sense the TOG is one of the best defender/supporters of the tier. With some of the most capable all around firepower of the tier,(solid ROF, excellent pen, good accuracy and solid damage) the key to being useful beyond defense is positioning the TOG in strong firing positions to support your allies. This is easily the biggest issue that a player must deal with, as all allied and enemy tanks are capable of outpacing the TOG and might easily cause the fight to be outside its response area. However once in a good firing position near the action the TOG is hands down one of the most reliable fire support tanks of the tier.

While the TOG can be deadly on its own, it is far more effective (and often more fun) when in a platoon.

Note that this tank is not recommended for novice tankers.


Historical Info

The early version of the TOG II mounting a 77 mm cannon

This enormous tank was designed on the premise that World War II would evolve in the same way as the First World War. Some believed that existing tanks would not be able to deal with such conditions, and one of the most influential was Sir Albert Stern, who had been secretary to the Landships Committee in the First World War. In company with many others involved in tank design in 1916, including Sir William Tritton, Sir Eustace Tennyson D'Eyncourt, Sir Ernest Swinton and Walter Wilson, Stern was authorised by the War Office to design a heavy tank on First World War principles.

Development history

At the beginning of World War II (September 1939) some military officers and engineers thought that the new war would evolve in the same way as the First World War. The war would be static, with the opposing armies occupying two lines of trenches running from the North Sea coast to the Swiss border, separated by a ‘no mans land’ swept by artillery and machine gun fire. Sir Albert Stern, Secretary of the Landships Committee during the First World War, believed that the sort of tanks being produced in 1939 would not be able to cope with these conditions. In company with other engineers involved in tank design in 1916, including Sir Eustace Tennyson D’Eyncourt (Former Director of Naval Construction), Sir Ernest Swinton and Walter Wilson, Stern was asked by the War Office to design a heavy tank using World War One principles. The group was called officially called ‘The Special Vehicle Development Committee of the Ministry of Supply’; unofficially it was known as the TOG committee (TOG: The Old Gang). It began work in September 1939.

The first design resembled an enlarged World War I tank with a Matilda II turret on top and a French 75mm gun mounted in the front plate of the hull. Fosters of Lincoln built a single prototype and trials started in October 1940. It was powered by a Paxman-Ricardo diesel engine and had an electric final drive. The electric drive burnt out and was replaced by a hydraulic drive; this also failed and the vehicle was scrapped. In the meantime the committee was designing a larger vehicle of great size, the TOG II. Its most original feature was the diesel electric transmission where the V12 diesel engine drove two electric generators, which powered two electric motors, which drove the tracks. There was no gearbox or mechanical transmission. (Ferdinand Porsche installed a similar system in one of his unsuccessful prototypes built for the German Army.) The tracks, after passing around the front mounted idler dropped down below floor level to create more internal space, an idea thought to be unique to this tank.

Fosters completed the single TOG II prototype in March 1941. It was so heavy that it was only possible to weigh half the vehicle at a time. The design specified machine gun sponsons on each side where the side doors are, like a British World War I tank. These were quickly abandoned. The tank was fitted with four different gun turrets between 1941 and 1944, ending up with the type of turret designed by Stoddart and Pitt for the A30 Challenger Heavy Cruiser Tank. This mounted a 17pdr gun, making the tank a TOG II*. The TOG II’s great length made it very difficult to steer and combined with its weight and low power weight ratio (7.5hp/ton) made the tank cumbersome and unwieldy.In reality ‘The Old Gang’s’ ideas were wrong; tanks needed to be smaller, agile and more mobile. The TOG II was finally abandoned in 1944, although the A22 Churchill had been adopted as Britain’s standard heavy infantry tank long before.


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