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 +''De Grasse'' is a Tier VI premium French cruiser that is a development of the ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' class. Both ships feature triple 152mm turrets in an AB-X configuration firing identical shells, though ''De Grasse'' has a higher rate of fire and slightly longer range. Given how quickly she puts shells downrange and the fire chance on her high explosive rounds, ''De Grasse'' is a superb fire-starter and a threat to burn down enemy capital ships at ranges that make her difficult to hit.
  
?''De Grasse'' is a Tier VI premium French Cruiser that is a development of the ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' class. They both feature triple 152mm turrets in a ABX configuration firing the same AP and HE shells, though ''De Grasse'' has a higher rate of fire and 0.3km higher range. Torpedo-wise, ''De Grasse'' features triple launchers instead of the twin launchers found on ''La Galissonnière,'' and thus has a longer reload on each mount. Both have unimpressive secondaries and weak AA. Maneuverability-wise, ''De Grasse'' is 2.5 knots faster, but has a 1.1 sec longer rudder shift time and a 40m wider turning circle. Both ships feature the engine boost consumable. Overall, ''De Grasse'' is fairly similar to ''La Galissonnière,'' and anybody used to her will feel right at home with ''De Grasse.''+Torpedo-wise, ''De Grasse'' features triple launchers instead of the twin launchers found on ''La Galissonnière'', and each mount has a longer reload time as a result. ''De Grasse''’s torpedoes are excellent long range harassment and area denial weapons, good for throwing around islands and into caps hoping to hit unsuspecting enemies; however, with only 3 fish on each side, captains shouldn't rely on them to devastate enemy battleships at close range.
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 +Both ships have unimpressive secondaries and weak AA. While ''De Grasse''’s anti-aircraft armament is sufficient for self-defense, her long range AA power is badly lacking even with [[Ship:Consumables#Defensive AA Fire|Defensive AA Fire]] active; she's not a ship that her teammates can rely on for anti-aircraft support. ''De Grasse'' is notably faster than ''La Galissonnière'', but has a longer rudder shift time and a wider turning circle. She retains ''La Galissonnière''’s access to the [[Ship:Consumables#Engine Boost|Engine Boost]] consumable, while adding access to a [[Ship:Consumables#Catapult Fighter|Catapult Fighter]] that ''La Galissonnière'' doesn't have.
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 +Captains who are veterans of ''La Galissonnière'' will feel right at home playing ''De Grasse'', and will find the slight improvements to her rate of fire and torpedoes to be welcome upgrades.
  
 '''[https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/128192-premium-ship-review-de-grasse LittleWhiteMouse's Premium Ship Review: De Grasse] from the NA forums.''' '''[https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/128192-premium-ship-review-de-grasse LittleWhiteMouse's Premium Ship Review: De Grasse] from the NA forums.'''
  
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?*Faster reload time than other French cruisers with 152mm guns.+* Faster reload time than other French cruisers with 152mm guns.
?*Main battery turrets traverse quickly, taking only 15 seconds for a full turn. +* Main battery turrets traverse quickly, taking only 15 seconds for a full turn.
?*Torpedoes have a range of 9 km with 60 knot speed.+* Torpedoes have a range of 9.0 km with 60 knot speed.
?*Wide torpedo launching angles.+* Wide torpedo launching angles.
?*High top speed which can be increased further with the Engine Boost consumable. +* High top speed which can be increased further with the [[Ship:Consumables#Engine Boost|Engine Boost]] consumable.
  
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?*While her reload time is faster than both [[ship:Émile Bertin|''Émile Bertin's'']] and [[ship:La Galissonnière|''La Gallissonniere’s'']], it is still slow compared to other cruisers carrying 152mm guns.+* While her reload time is faster than both ''[[Émile Bertin]]''’s and ''[[La Galissonnière]]''’s, it is still slow compared to other cruisers carrying 152mm guns.
?*''De Grasse'' has only only three torpedoes per side. +* Only only three torpedoes per side.
?*The ship’s rudder can be incapacitated very easily.+* The ship’s rudder can be incapacitated very easily.
 +* Anti-aircraft suite is woefully inadequate.
  
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?As a Tier VI French cruiser, ''De Grasse'' has all the same consumables as ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' but has a Catapult Fighter in a 4th slot as well; the following consumables are available on ''De Grasse'':+''De Grasse'' has all the same consumables as ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' but has a Catapult Fighter in a 4th slot as well. The following consumables are available on ''De Grasse'':
 *[[Ship:Consumables#Damage_Control_Party|Damage Control Party]] *[[Ship:Consumables#Damage_Control_Party|Damage Control Party]]
 *[[Ship:Consumables#Defensive_AA_Fire|Defensive Fire]] '''or''' [[Ship:Consumables#Hydroacoustic_Search|Hydroacoustic Search]] *[[Ship:Consumables#Defensive_AA_Fire|Defensive Fire]] '''or''' [[Ship:Consumables#Hydroacoustic_Search|Hydroacoustic Search]]
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 *[[Ship:Consumables#Catapult_Fighter|Catapult Fighter]] *[[Ship:Consumables#Catapult_Fighter|Catapult Fighter]]
  
?She basically has the same consumables as [[Algerie]] and [[Charles Martel]], but with the Catapult Fighter and Engine Boost consumables in switched positions.+She basically has the same consumables as ''[[Algérie]]'' and ''[[Charles Martel]]'', but with the Catapult Fighter and Engine Boost consumables in switched positions.
  
 It is highly recommended to mount premium Engine Boost II to maximize the usage of the ship's speed, and to mount premium Damage Control Party II if the player finds the rudder is incapacitated frequently. Premium Defensive Fire and Hydroacoustic search are optional, and the choice between the two is up to the player. Premium Catapult Fighter is '''not''' recommended. It is highly recommended to mount premium Engine Boost II to maximize the usage of the ship's speed, and to mount premium Damage Control Party II if the player finds the rudder is incapacitated frequently. Premium Defensive Fire and Hydroacoustic search are optional, and the choice between the two is up to the player. Premium Catapult Fighter is '''not''' recommended.
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 File:DeGrassePort2.png|''De Grasse'' comes with her originally planned 152mm main battery. File:DeGrassePort2.png|''De Grasse'' comes with her originally planned 152mm main battery.
?File:DeGrasseAirAttack3.png| ''De Grasse'' is stalked by torpedo bombers from an enemy [[ship:Ranger|''Ranger'']]+File:DeGrasseAirAttack3.png| ''De Grasse'' is stalked by torpedo bombers from an enemy ''[[Ranger]]''.
?File:DeGrasseAirAttack2.jpg|[[ship:Ranger|''Ranger's'']] dive bombers land hits on the ''De Grasse'' while she maneuvers to evade a torpedo attack.+File:DeGrasseAirAttack2.jpg|''[[Ranger]]''’s dive bombers land hits on ''De Grasse'' while she maneuvers to evade a torpedo attack.
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 ===Design=== ===Design===
?By 1936, the ''Marine Nationale'' was looking for the next generation of cruisers to succeed the then-modern ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class cruisers. Still adhering to the limitations imposed by the 1936 London Naval Treaty, France sought to construct a new type of light-cruiser under the sub-8000 ton benchmark. Rationally, as successors to the 7,500 ton ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class cruisers, the new light cruiser ''De Grasse'' would use the extra displacement to improve on the deficiencies discovered on the preceding light cruisers. Specifically, the three major areas of interest were to improve the aviation facilities, the armament suite, and propulsion. +By 1936, the ''Marine Nationale'' was looking for the next generation of cruisers to succeed the then-modern ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class of ships. Still adhering to the limitations imposed by the 1936 London Naval Treaty, France sought to construct a new type of light-cruiser under the 8,000 ton benchmark. Rationally, as successors to the 7,500 ton ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class cruisers, the new light cruiser ''De Grasse'' would use the extra displacement to improve on the deficiencies discovered on the preceding light cruisers: specifically, the aviation facilities, the armament suite, and propulsion.
  
?Originally designed in 1936, the cruiser was planned to have no less than two aircraft catapults, and the facilities to carry up to three individual aircraft. Furthermore, a series of lifts and tracks between the hangar and catapults were implemented to automatize the process. By positioning the dual-hangar amidships, ''De Grasse'' would use a single-funnel design, as opposed to her predecessor. The space on top of the hangars was used to install light AA and secondary fire-directors. However it was discovered that the aviation facilities were very cramped and she would be top-heavy. Therefore by the 1938 design proposal, she was limited to a single hangar, which meant a rearrangement of light AA and fire-control. +Originally designed in 1936, the cruiser was planned to have no less than two aircraft catapults, and the facilities to carry up to three individual aircraft. Furthermore, a series of lifts and tracks between the hangar and catapults were implemented to automate the process of launching aircraft. By positioning the dual-hangar amidships, ''De Grasse'' would use a single-funnel design, as opposed to her predecessor. The space on top of the hangars was used to install light AA and secondary fire directors. However, it was discovered that the aviation facilities were very cramped and she would be top heavy in this configuration. Therefore, by the 1938 design proposal, she was limited to a single hangar, which meant a rearrangement of light AA and fire control.
  
?De Grasse’s main armaments were of particular concern (due to the underperformance of her predecessors). After a few design proposals, it was decided to use the same rifles and configuration as ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class, but the turrets themselves would be modified triple-gun versions of the DP guns mounted on battleship ''Richelieu''. Although they were heavier, these new mounts would have the ability to engage both surface and air threats, as they could elevate the guns up to +70˚. As well, these new mounts had the ability to reload at any elevation; a significant increase in rate of fire. Since the hoists for the shells and power were displaced off to the side of the guns, the turret could fit the smaller dimensions of a cruiser. +''De Grasse''’s main armament was of particular concern (due to the underperformance of her predecessors). After a few design proposals, it was decided to use the same rifles and configuration as ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class, but the turrets themselves would be modified triple-gun versions of the dual-purpose guns mounted on battleship ''Richelieu''. Although they were heavier, these new mounts would have the ability to engage both surface and air threats, as they could elevate the guns up to +70˚. Additionally, these new mounts had the ability to reload at any elevation, offering a significant increase in rate of fire. Since the hoists for the shells and power were displaced off to the side of the guns, the turret could fit the smaller dimensions of a cruiser.
?Similarly, there was a revision of the AA suite of the ''De Grasse'' class. They would mount the completely novel twin 100mm Mle 1933 DP guns in fully-enclosed pseudo turrets – type ''avisos-dragueurs''. Not only are they more protected; but also they could be directed via centralized fire–control. But, due to weight and necessary space for dedicated magazine, only a few could be fitted. The three guns were all placed aft, which gave excellent rear cover, but poor front cover. To compensate, 4 twin-37mm Mle 1933 AA guns were positioned forward. Another improvement, from ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class, ''De Grasse'' mounted 2 triple-550mm torpedo tubes; one on each side, amidships. +
  
?To ensure there was not any loss of performance due to the increase in displacement, it was a necessity to improve the propulsion machinery. While the internal layout was similar to her predecessors, new machinery was installed in place of the old. Boilers that were akin to the models used in ''contre-torpilleurs'' – which would operate at higher-pressure loads – and turbines that could be configured for multi-pressure work was installed. Ultimately this was able to increase power from 100,000 to 110,000 shaft horsepower; achieving a top speed above 32 knots. +Similarly, there was a revision of the AA suite of the ''De Grasse'' class. They would mount the completely novel twin 100mm Mle 1933 DP guns in fully-enclosed pseudo turrets – type ''avisos-dragueurs''. Not only were they better protected, but they could also be directed via centralized fire control. Unfortunately, due to weight and necessary space for dedicated magazines, only a few could be fitted. The three guns were all placed aft, which gave excellent rear cover but poor front cover. To compensate for this weakness in her AA arrangement, four (4) twin 37mm Mle 1933 AA guns were positioned forward. Another improvement from the ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' class, ''De Grasse'' mounted 2 triple 550mm torpedo tubes, one on each side, amidships.
  
?In the end, she was a cruiser that shared design characteristics of the ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class and cruiser ''[[Algerie|Algerié]]''. Her hull was superficially similar to her predecessors; albeit with a more flared and narrow bow to increase sea keeping. Her superstructure was akin to the heavy cruiser: built around a central tower and a single funnel amidships. ''De Grasse'' used a combination of high tensile steel and duralumin on the hull and superstructure respectively to decrease displacement and top-weight. To save design time, a similar armour profile as ''[[La Galissonnière]]''-class was used on ''De Grasse'' as well. +To ensure there was not any loss of performance due to the increase in displacement, an improvement in main propulsion was required. While the internal layout was similar to her predecessors, new machinery was installed in place of the old. Boilers that were akin to the models used in ''contre-torpilleurs'' – which would operate at higher-pressure loads – and turbines that could be configured for multi-pressure work were installed. Ultimately, her designers were able to increase ''De Grasse''’s power from 100,000 to 110,000 shaft horsepower, resulting in a top speed above 32 knots.
  
?Later, she would be reconstructed as an anti-aircraft cruiser, but that is beyond the scope of this article. +In the end, ''De Grasse'' was a cruiser that shared design characteristics of the ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' class and cruiser ''[[Algérie]]''. Her hull was superficially similar to her predecessors, albeit with a more flared and narrow bow to increase sea keeping. Her superstructure was akin to the heavy cruiser: built around a central tower and a single funnel amidships. ''De Grasse'' used a combination of high tensile steel and duralumin – on the hull and superstructure, respectively – to decrease displacement and top weight. To save design time, a similar armor profile as the ''[[La Galissonnière]]'' class was used on ''De Grasse'' as well.
  
?With her design finalized in 1938, ''De Grasse'' was laid down on 28 August 1939 at the Lorient Naval Dockyards. With the commencement of the Second World War, her construction was on halt; she was launched 11 September 1946. By 1951 she was towed to Brest Naval Yard and was completed as an anti-aircraft cruiser. She was commissioned into the ''Marine Nationale'' on 10 September 1956. +With her design finalized, ''De Grasse'' was laid down on 28 August 1939 at the Lorient Naval Dockyards. The commencement of the Second World War in September 1939 halted her construction, and she was not launched until 11 September 1946. In 1951, she was towed to Brest Naval Yard and was finally completed as an anti-aircraft cruiser with a radically different main battery configuration. She was commissioned into the ''Marine Nationale'' on 10 September 1956.
  
 ===Service=== ===Service===
?Despite being laid down nearly two decades earlier, and after German capture in 1940, and a five-year pause after she was launched post-war in 1946, ''De Grasse'' finally entered service in 1956, becoming the flagship of the French Mediterranean Squad. Her service in the Mediterranean was largely uneventful, serving there from 1956 until she was taken out of service momentarily in 1964. Following two years of conversions, she re-entered the Marine Nationale as the flagship of the Nuclear Testing fleet, bound for the French Polynesia. There, she would remain until 1972, being decommissioned in 1973, and later sold for scrap in 1974.+Despite being laid down nearly two decades earlier, ''De Grasse'' finally entered service in 1956, becoming the flagship of the French Mediterranean Squadron. Her service in the Mediterranean was largely uneventful, serving there from 1956 until she was taken out of service momentarily in 1964. Following two years of conversions, she re-entered the ''Marine Nationale'' as the flagship of the Nuclear Testing fleet, bound for the French Polynesia. There she would remain until she was decommissioned in 1973, and sold for scrap in 1974.
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 +===Historical Accuracy===
 +* ''De Grasse'' is represented in World of Warships in the configuration she would have had if she had been completed using her original design. Her as-built armament in 1956 was reminiscent of the ''[[Atlanta]]''-class light cruisers of the U.S. Navy, comprised of eight (8) twin 127mm dual-purpose turrets.
   
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According to the draft design in 1938, the light cruiser De Grasse was developed from the La Galissonnière-class ships, and shared their main advantages: improved armor and good main battery guns. She had distinctive AA armament, increased speed, and slightly reinforced torpedo tubes.

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Compatible Upgrades

 Slot 1 
Air Groups Modification 1
Main Armaments Modification 1
Auxiliary Armaments Modification 1
Magazine Modification 1
Aiming Systems Modification 0
Spotting Aircraft Modification 1
Damage Control Party Modification 1
Sonar Modification 1
 Slot 2 
Damage Control System Modification 1
Engine Boost Modification 1
Defensive AA Fire Modification 1
Hydroacoustic Search Modification 1
Surveillance Radar Modification 1
Aircraft Engines Modification 1
Engine Room Protection
Sonar Modification 2
Damage Control System Modification 3
 Slot 3 
Main Battery Modification 2
Secondary Battery Modification 1
AA Guns Modification 1
Artillery Plotting Room Modification 1
Aiming Systems Modification 1
Smoke Generator Modification 1
Torpedo Bombers Modification 1
Attack Aircraft Modification 1
Torpedo Tubes Modification 1
Aerial Torpedoes Modification 1
Dive Capacity Modification 1
Skip Bomber Modification 1
 Slot 4 
Damage Control System Modification 2
Propulsion Modification 1
Steering Gears Modification 1
Attack Aircraft Modification 2
Torpedo Bombers Modification 2
Bombers Modification 1
Skip Bomber Modification 2
Airstrike Modification 1
Depth Charges Modification 1
Submarine Steering Gears
Air Groups Modification 3
 Slot 5 
Flight Control Modification 1
Torpedo Lookout System
Concealment System Modification 1
Steering Gears Modification 2
Enhanced Engineering Systems
Reinforced Emergency Response
Upgraded Damage Control Equipment
Improved Main Battery Loading Mechanisms
Aerosol Smoke Curtain System
Master Fire Control Director
Torpedo Fire Control System
Improved Hull Concealment
Improved Main Artillery
Ship Consumables Modification 1
Squadron Consumables Modification 1
Heavier Torpedo Warheads
Additional Smoke Generators
Augmented Smoke Generators
Torpedo Tubes Modification 3
Reinforced Bulkheads
 Slot 6 
Main Battery Modification 3
Torpedo Tubes Modification 2
Gun Fire Control System Modification 2
Flight Control Modification 2
Air Groups Modification 2
Artillery Plotting Room Modification 2
Main Battery Fire Control Station
Improved Ammunition Hoists
Main Battery Director System
Improved Bridge
Enhanced Propulsion Plant
Enhanced Countermeasures
Extended Main Battery Effective Range
Torpedo Quick Reload System
Main Gun Automatic Loader
Modified External Hardpoints
Fuel Injection System
Auxiliary Armaments Modification 2
Improved Camouflage Patterns
Automated Main Battery Loading Mechanism
Forced Takeoff and Landing Equipment
ARP Main Battery Director System
Dive Capacity Modification 2
Advanced Mechanical Maintenance
Ballistic Capped Armor-Piercing Shells
Aerodynamic Torpedo Fin Stabilizers
Automated Gun and Fuel Systems
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Player Opinion

Performance

De Grasse is a Tier VI premium French cruiser that is a development of the La Galissonnière class. Both ships feature triple 152mm turrets in an AB-X configuration firing identical shells, though De Grasse has a higher rate of fire and slightly longer range. Given how quickly she puts shells downrange and the fire chance on her high explosive rounds, De Grasse is a superb fire-starter and a threat to burn down enemy capital ships at ranges that make her difficult to hit.

Torpedo-wise, De Grasse features triple launchers instead of the twin launchers found on La Galissonnière, and each mount has a longer reload time as a result. De Grasse’s torpedoes are excellent long range harassment and area denial weapons, good for throwing around islands and into caps hoping to hit unsuspecting enemies; however, with only 3 fish on each side, captains shouldn't rely on them to devastate enemy battleships at close range.

Both ships have unimpressive secondaries and weak AA. While De Grasse’s anti-aircraft armament is sufficient for self-defense, her long range AA power is badly lacking even with Defensive AA Fire active; she's not a ship that her teammates can rely on for anti-aircraft support. De Grasse is notably faster than La Galissonnière, but has a longer rudder shift time and a wider turning circle. She retains La Galissonnière’s access to the Engine Boost consumable, while adding access to a Catapult Fighter that La Galissonnière doesn't have.

Captains who are veterans of La Galissonnière will feel right at home playing De Grasse, and will find the slight improvements to her rate of fire and torpedoes to be welcome upgrades.

LittleWhiteMouse's Premium Ship Review: De Grasse from the NA forums.

Pros:

  • Faster reload time than other French cruisers with 152mm guns.
  • Main battery turrets traverse quickly, taking only 15 seconds for a full turn.
  • Torpedoes have a range of 9.0 km with 60 knot speed.
  • Wide torpedo launching angles.
  • High top speed which can be increased further with the Engine Boost consumable.

Cons:

  • While her reload time is faster than both Émile Bertin’s and La Galissonnière’s, it is still slow compared to other cruisers carrying 152mm guns.
  • Only only three torpedoes per side.
  • The ship’s rudder can be incapacitated very easily.
  • Anti-aircraft suite is woefully inadequate.

Research

As a premium ship, De Grasse doesn't have any upgrades to research.

Optimal Configuration

Upgrades

As a Tier VI cruiser with four upgrade slots, the following upgrades are recommended on De Grasse:

Slot 1

  • Main Armaments Modification 1, as De Grasse's anti-air capabilities are not very good and it relies mainly on its main batteries to deal damage.

Slot 2

  • Aiming Systems Modification 1, as aforementioned, her anti-air capabilities are not very good and the decrease in dispersion will help a little bit more.

Slot 4

Slot 5

  • Steering Gears Modification 2, to help with the already poor rudder shift time on the cruiser; she has the worst rudder shift out of all the Tier VI cruisers (with Budyonny second-worst at 8.6 seconds [top hull]).

Commander Skills

Consumables

De Grasse has all the same consumables as La Galissonnière but has a Catapult Fighter in a 4th slot as well. The following consumables are available on De Grasse:

She basically has the same consumables as Algérie and Charles Martel, but with the Catapult Fighter and Engine Boost consumables in switched positions.

It is highly recommended to mount premium Engine Boost II to maximize the usage of the ship's speed, and to mount premium Damage Control Party II if the player finds the rudder is incapacitated frequently. Premium Defensive Fire and Hydroacoustic search are optional, and the choice between the two is up to the player. Premium Catapult Fighter is not recommended.

Camouflage

As a premium ship, De Grasse comes included with Type 10 camouflage that lowers her detection radius, reduces the accuracy of incoming shells, and increases the amount of experience she earns.

Signals

Like other French cruisers, De Grasse benefits significantly from signal flags that increase HE fire chance. Juliet Charlie may be used to mitigate the increased risk of detonation gained when mounting India X-Ray flags. November Foxtrot reduces the cool-down timer for consumables which is especially useful for the engine boost consumable. Sierra Mike is also highly recommended to increase the ship’s top speed. Special and Economic signal flags can be mounted to increase the experience and credit gain per battle.


Note: Use of the Juliet Charlie signal makes detonation impossible.

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