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 +A project developed as part of the program for a large-scale expansion of the German Navy. A further development of ''[[Bismarck]]''-class battleships with more powerful main guns and enhanced AA defenses.<br><br>{{Model3DViewer|92ca593cd34b49118a958e7ba764f323}}
  
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 +Based on the unrealized H-39 design plans and sharing her name with one of the Kaiser's sister ships, the ''Friedrich der Große (English: Frederick the Great)'' is essentially a super-''Bismarck'', sporting the same dual AB-XY turret layout (but with larger guns), the same secondary battery (but with a touch longer range), and the same Hydroacoustic Search (but with longer range and duration). Thanks to the gain in displacement, ''Friedrich'' has a significantly larger hit point pool than ''Bismarck'', but loses a bit of maneuverability and concealment in the process.
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 +As with ''Bismarck'', ''Friedrich'' excels at close-range brawls where the abysmal accuracy of her main guns is less of a factor, while her powerful secondary armament combined with her decent maneuverability and turret traverse can dish out the damage. Here her turtleback armor and Hydroacoustic Search are key factors in protecting her from return fire. Unfortunately, with the rapidly increasing range and firepower at high tiers, combined with unprotected approaches on many maps, she runs a high risk of being focused and sunk if played too forward at the beginning of the game. Captains should moderate their aggression until an opportunity for a combined push and/or to run down a smaller group of enemies presents itself.
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 +''Friedrich'' has the option between two sets of guns: slightly faster-firing but lighter 406 mm guns, and slightly slower-firing but heavier 420 mm guns. The differences are quite marginal in practice; many captains opt to stay with the 406 mm guns as the higher rate of fire makes the poor accuracy slightly less frustrating, and the 420 mm guns cost XP and credits.
  
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 +* Signature German turtleback armor scheme prevents citadels at close range.
 +* Enhanced Hydroacoustic Search with long range and duration.
 +* Powerful and numerous secondaries.
 +* Decent speed and maneuverability for a ship her size.
 +* Fast turret traverse for a battleship.
 +* Large HP pool.
  
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 +* Terrible main battery accuracy combined with poor sigma and a fewer amount of guns makes for a frustrating experience.
 +* Secondaries are less effective at this tier.
 +* Poor main gun arcs; A lot of broadside is needed in order to fire all 4 turrets.
 +* Turrets can be incapacitated relatively easily.
 +* Large turn radius.
 +* Poor detection range.
  
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 +The 406mm guns are perfectly serviceable, and require the B hull in order to be researched. The B hull greatly improves your survivability, anti-aircraft armament, and rudder shift so it is highly recommended to research first or second. the GFCS and Engine should be researched next, and the 420mm guns researched last.
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 +|OptimalConfiguration=
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 +|Upgrades=<!-- write text about best upgrades below -->
 +As a Tier IX ship, ''{{#var:ship_name}}'' has access to all six Upgrade Slots. ''{{#var:ship_name}}'' can build for Secondaries or AA.
 +* '''Slot 1:''' {{Main Armaments Modification 1}} to improve her main battery survival.
 +* '''Slot 2:''' {{Damage Control System Modification 1}} to improve her overall survival in battle.
 +* '''Slot 3:''' {{Aiming Systems Modification 1}} to improve her main battery accuracy, {{AA Guns Modification 1}} for an AA build, or {{Secondary Battery Modification 2}} for a secondary build.
 +* '''Slot 4:''' {{Damage Control System Modification 2}} to further improve her overall survival. {{Steering Gears Modification 2}} is also an option to improve her maneuverability.
 +* '''Slot 5:''' {{Concealment System Modification 1}} to reduce her detection range. {{Target Acquisition System Modification 1}} is also a viable choice if torpedoes are a recurring threat.
 +* '''Slot 6:''' {{Main Battery Modification 3}} is the best option for this slot. The -20% loading time for secondary armament offered by {{Secondary Battery Modification 3}} is of little benefit, and {{AA Guns Modification 2}} is only recommended if you are division-ing with a carrier to guarantee an enemy CV.
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 +|CommanderSkills=
 +As a tier IX Battleship, ''Friedrich der Große'' can be built with either a secondary focus, survivability focus, or anti-aircraft focus. Secondary and anti-aircraft builds can overlap, with both taking advantage of Basic Firing Training and Advanced Firing Training. Captains may also wish to consider skills such as Fire Prevention, Concealment Expert, High Alert, Basics of Surivability, Adrenaline Rush, and Jack of All Trades. Expert Marksman is also highly recommended.
 +{{Commander Skills
 +| Priority Target = 2
 +| Preventative Maintenance = 2
 +| Expert Loader = 1
 +| Air Supremacy =
 +| Direction Center for Fighters = 1
 +| Improved Engine Boost =
 +| Incoming Fire Alert = 1
 +| Evasive Maneuver =
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 +| High Alert = 1
 +| Jack of All Trades = 1
 +| Expert Marksman = 2
 +| Torpedo Acceleration =
 +| Smoke Screen Expert =
 +| Improved Engines =
 +| Adrenaline Rush = 3
 +| Last Stand =
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 +| Survivability Expert =
 +| Basics of Survivability = 2
 +| Torpedo Armament Expertise =
 +| Aircraft Armor =
 +| Basic Firing Training = 2
 +| Superintendent = 3
 +| Demolition Expert = 1
 +| Vigilance = 2
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 +| Manual Fire Control for Secondary Armament = 2
 +| Fire Prevention = 2
 +| Inertia Fuse for HE Shells = 1
 +| Sight Stabilization =
 +| Advanced Firing Training = 3
 +| Manual Fire Control for AA Armament = 2
 +| Radio Position Finding =
 +| Concealment Expert = 2
 +}}
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 +|Consumables=<!-- write text about selection of Consumables below -->
 +As a tier IX German battleship, ''Friedrich der Große'' has access to the following consumables and their premium versions: [[Ship:Consumables#Damage_Control_Party|Damage Control Party]], [[Ship:Consumables#Spotting_Aircraft|Spotting Aircraft]], [[Ship:Consumables#Catapult_Fighter|Catapult Fighter]], and [[Ship:Consumables#Hydroacoustic_Search|Hydroacoustic Search]].
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 +|Camouflage=<!-- write text about useful camouflage below -->
 +[[Ship:Camouflage#Standard Camouflage|Type 1, 2, or 5 camouflage]] can be equipped for credits; Types 2 or 5 are recommended at a minimum to reduce the accuracy of incoming shells.
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 +Players who wish to spend doubloons can equip ''Friedrich der Große'' with [[Ship:Camouflage#Permanent_Camouflage|Type 19 camouflage]] that lowers her detection radius and the cost for her post-battle service, reduces the accuracy of incoming shells, and increases the amount of experience and credits she earns.
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 +|Signals=<!-- write text about best set of signals below -->
 +As a tier IX Battleship, ''Friedrich der Große'' benefits greatly from signals that improve her survivability, such as November Foxtrot, India Delta, and India Yankee. Signals that increase XP and credit earnings can also be useful, as well as those that boost her secondary battery and anti-aircraft armament.
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 +{{Signal Flags
 +| November Echo Setteseven = 1
 +| Mike Yankee Soxisix = 2
 +| India X-Ray =
 +| Juliet Whiskey Unaone =
 +| Victor Lima =
 +| Hotel Yankee = 1
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 +| November Foxtrot = 3
 +| Sierra Mike = 2
 +| India Delta = 3
 +| Juliet Yankee Bissotwo =
 +| India Yankee = 3
 +| Juliet Charlie = 1
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 +| Zulu = 1
 +| India Bravo Terrathree = 2
 +| Equal Speed Charlie London = 1
 +| Zulu Hotel = 1
 +| Papa Papa = 1
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 +| Wyvern = 1
 +| Red Dragon = 1
 +| Dragon Flag = 1
 +| Ouroboros = 1
 +| Hydra = 1
 +}}
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 +{{AnnoWiki|content=
 +<h2>"Battleship H", 1939</h2>
 +===Construction===
 +:Blohm and Voss Shipbuilding Company; Hamburg, Germany
 +:Laid down: 15 June 1939
 +----
 +====Specifications====
 +:53,400 metric tons displacement, standard
 +:63,600 metric tons displacement, full load
 +:277.8m length
 +:37.0m beam
 +:10.0m draft
 +----
 +====Machinery====
 +:12 diesel engines, 4 auxiliary boilers, 3 shafts
 +----
 +====Performance====
 +:30 knts at 165,000shp
 +:19,200 nm at 19 knts
 +----
 +====Armor====
 +:Main belt: 300mm mid, 60mm forward, 90mm aft
 +:Upper belt: 145mm
 +:Torpedo bulkhead: 45mm
 +:Decks: 100-120mm main, 50-80mm upper armored deck
 +:Bulkheads: 220mm
 +:Turrets: 385mm face, 240mm side, 130mm roof
 +:Conning tower: 390mm
 +----
 +====Armament====
 +=====Main=====
 +:Eight (4x2) 406mm guns
 +=====Secondary=====
 +:Twelve (6x2) 150mm guns
 +:Sixteen (8x2) 105mm guns
 +=====Anti-Aircraft=====
 +:Sixteen (8x2) 37mm guns
 +:Twenty-four (6x4) 20mm guns
 +=====Torpedoes=====
 +:Six 533mm submerged torpedo tubes
 +----
 +====Aircraft====
 +:Four Arado AR 196 floatplanes, two catapults
 +}}</div>
  
?|HistoricalGallery=<!-- write below list of files with description (if necessary) separated with | --><gallery>+The ''Friedrich der Große'' in game represents the 1939 "Battleship H" (H-39) design, with the upgraded hull incorporating hypothetical increases in AA armament and an electronics suite that would have matched the late-war ''Tirpitz''. The second main gun option in game are the planned 42.0 cm guns for the revised 1941 "Battleship H" (H-41) design, though the in game upgraded hull remains that of the H-39. It shares its name with the ''Kaiser''-class battleship ''Friedrich der Große''.
  
 +===History===
 +The earliest design studies for "Schlachtschiff H" ("Battleship H") date to 1935, and were near repeats of the early designs for the Bismarck-class ships, armed with 35-centimeter (14 in) guns. Intelligence indicating that the Soviet Navy was planning the Sovetsky Soyuz class with 38 cm (15 in) guns prompted the Germans to increase the caliber of the ship's armament to 38 cm as well on 5 October 1936. The Oberkommando der Marine (OKM) issued staff requirements at the end of October for a ship of 35,000 long tons (36,000 t) armed with eight 38 cm guns with a speed of 30 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph). The ship's radius of action was to be at least equal that of the ''Deutschland''-class cruisers.
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 +Design work on the ship that came to be designated H-39 began in 1937. The design staff was instructed to improve upon the design for the preceding Bismarck class; one of the requirements was a larger-caliber main battery to match any battleship built by a potential adversary. It appeared that Japan would not ratify the Second London Naval Treaty, which would bring an escalator clause that permitted signatories to arm battleships with guns of up to 40.6 cm (16.0 in) caliber. By virtue of the Anglo-German Naval Agreement, signed in 1935, Germany was considered to be a party to the other international naval arms limitation treaties. In April, Japan refused to sign the treaty; shortly thereafter, the United States Navy announced it would arm the new ''North Carolina''-class battleships with 40.6 cm guns.
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 +Admiral Werner Fuchs, responsible for the staff section in the OKM that determined the operating requirements for the ship, discussed the vessel's design with Adolf Hitler, the leader of Germany. Hitler demanded guns larger than any possible adversary, but guns of the caliber demanded by Hitler would have required displacements of over 80,000 long tons (81,000 t) and drafts so deep as to prevent the use of Germany's ports without significant dredging. Fuchs eventually convinced Hitler that the 40.6 cm gun was the optimal choice for the H-39 design. In 1938, the OKM developed Plan Z, the projected construction program for the German navy. A force of six H-39 class battleships was the centerpiece of the fleet. Plan Z was finalized by January 1939, when Admiral Erich Raeder, the commander of the Kriegsmarine, presented it to Hitler. He approved the plan on 18 January and granted the Kriegsmarine unlimited power to bring the construction program to fruition.
 +
 +====Design====
 +While the ''Bismarck'' class was a powerful class of Battleships, the most powerful that would ever be designed by the German Navy and the largest class of Battleships to be built of any European Nations, several deficiencies in the design led to the demands of an even stronger Battleship. The criticism mostly aimed at the caliber of the main battery, the depth of the main armor belt, the horizontal protection and the propulsion.
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 +To meet these concerns the new ship would require to be larger than the ''Bismarck'' class, and the displacement was designed to be around 62,500 tons when fully loaded. The name of the Project was ''H-39''. A total crew complement of 2,600 was planned.
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 +The main armament of ''H-39'' was very similar to ''Bismarck'' in layout and caliber. The main guns were improved to 406mm L/52 guns, which would fire a 1,030kg heavy projectile at ranges up to 36.8km. The designed reload of these guns was around 30 seconds, very similar to that of other guns of the same caliber. Located in four twin turrets, a superfiring pair fore and one aft, ''H-39'' followed the design of ''Bismarck''.
 +The Secondaries were almost copied from the preceding class. Twelve 150mm L/50 guns in six twin turrets, three placed on each side of the ship, would be able to engage targets at ranges up to 23km firing around eight rounds per minute and gun. The 16 105mm Anti-Aircraft guns were also able to engage surface targets at ranges up to 17km with a rate of fire around 18 rounds per minute and gun.
 +Interesting about ''H-39'' is that she was the first German Battleship since the end of World War 1 to carry underwater Torpedo Tubes. Six Tubes in total, mounted in two groups, were placed at the sides of the ship a bit forward of Turret “Anton”.
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 +Initial Anti-Aircraft-Armament would have consisted of 16 105mm mounted in twin turrets. Unlike all the 105mm mountings before, these were fully enclosed to protect the crew against splinters and weather, and the barrels were more spaced to allow the loaders more movement and reduced dispersion.
 +The medium range AA was made up of the 37mm ''Flakzwilling 30'', mounted in eight twin mounts. These were the same guns as found on the ''Scharnhorst'' and ''Bismarck'' class, which would feature good ballistics at the prize of a very low Rate of Fire.
 +The last line of defense was planned to be a total of six of the famous ''Flakvierling 38'', 20mm guns mounted in quadruple mounts.
 +As ''H-39'' was never completed, no improvements in regards to the armament could be done.
 +
 +The protective scheme was fairly similar to ''Bismarck'', but priorities were shifted a bit.
 +In order to meet the insufficient belt depth of ''Bismarck's'' main armor belt (a shell from ''Prince of Wales'' landed short and penetrated ''Bismarck's'' hull, causing critical damage), the belt was extended deeper below the waterline. This however came with an overall reduction in the thickness, and the belt was only planned to be 300mm thick. Above the main belt the upper belt tapered down to 180mm for a bit, and then eventually to 150mm before reaching the upper deck.To compensate the lower thickness of the belt, the iconic turtleback was thickened. At the magazines it was 150mm strong, while at the machinery it was still 120mm. Behind it was a Torpedo bulkhead which would provide further protection against splinters. The horizontal protection was significantly improved. With a weather deck ranging between 50 and 80mm, and a main armor deck with 120mm over the magazines and 100mm over the machinery, they surpassed ''Tirpitz'' horizontal protection.
 +As a means to protect the bow and stern section of the ship the armor belt extended towards the bow with 60mm, also covering the fuel cells which were hit and damaged on ''Bismarck''. Towards the rear it was 110mm thick, and would extend until the steering gears.
 +The barbettes for the main battery were protected by 360mm strong armor, and the turrets themselves had a 385mm face plating, 240mm thick sides and a 130mm roof. The armored conning tower had 385mm strong sides and a 240mm roof.
 +
 +The machinery was a complete change from almost all preceding German Capital ships. Whereas the ''Scharnhorst'' and ''Bismarck'' class carried a conventional steam propulsion, ''H-39'' was designed to carry a Diesel propulsion similar to the ''Deutschland'' class. In total twelve MAN Diesel engines would generate 165,000 shp on three shafts, which would drive the ship to 30kn. The calculated cruising range would exceed 19,000 nautical miles
 +The reasoning for the usage of Diesel engines was due to multiple factors. The previous steam engines on capital ships usually required a highly qualified crew and would still demand a lot of maintenance, while being prone to breakdowns especially when one of the former requirements was not 100% met. On top of that the cruising range left a lot to be desired. On the other hand Diesel engines were a proven concept, which would not require as much attention and be more reliable, while offering long cruising ranges. Also, as the war would rage on, Diesel would be a lot easier to obtain than regular fuel oil. The only downside was that on a power per weight ratio the Diesel engines were relatively heavy.
 +
 +Aircraft facilities would allow ''H-39'' to carry up to four planes, but the location of the catapult was very unusual. Instead of having placed on the stern of the ship, or in the superstructure, it was located just behind turret “Dora”. The intention was that it would keep the middle section of the ship free for the second funnel and other equipment, while not blocking potential firing arcs towards the rear of the ship (and German ships would never in history carry catapults on the stern of the ship).
 +
 +====Service====
 +Only four shipyards in Germany had slipways large enough to build the six new battleships. The OKM issued orders for construction of the first two ships, "H" and "J", on 14 April 1939. The contracts for the other four ships, "K", "L", "M", and "N", followed on 25 May. The keels for the first two ships were laid at the Blohm & Voss dockyard in Hamburg and the Deschimag shipyard in Bremen on 15 July and 1 September 1939, respectively. The outbreak of World War II in September 1939 interrupted the construction of the ships. Work on the first two was suspended and the other four were not laid down, as it was believed they would not be finished before the war was over. The keel for "H" had 800 t (790 long tons; 880 short tons) of steel installed, 3,500 t (3,400 long tons; 3,900 short tons) of steel had been machined, out of 5,800 t (5,700 long tons; 6,400 short tons) of steel supplied to Blohm & Voss by that point. Only 40 t (39 long tons; 44 short tons) of steel had been worked into the keel for "J", out of 3,531 t (3,475 long tons; 3,892 short tons) of steel delivered. Steel for the other four ships had been ordered and partially machined for installation, though no assembly work had begun. It was expected to resume work on the ships after a German victory in the war.
 +
 +The ships neither received names nor were official name proposals published. The names, which appear in several publications (Hindenburg, Friedrich der Große, Großdeutschland) are pure speculation. Especially the often mentioned Großdeutschland (= "Greater Germany") is highly unlikely, as Hitler always feared the loss of a vessel with name of Germany (compare the renaming of Deutschland to ''Lützow''). The only hint on the names of the units were given by Hitler himself, who mentioned during documented unofficial talks, that he would propose the names Ulrich von Hutten and Götz von Berlichingen for the ships, as these names are not connected with persons of the third Reich or the country itself, so the loss would not have a significant negative psychological and propaganda effect on the German people.
 +
 +===Historical Inaccuracies===
 +* No ship in the Kriegsmarine was ever named ''Friedrich der Große''.
 +* The six submerged torpedo tubes cannot be used in-game.
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 +|HistoricalGallery=<!-- write below list of files with description (if necessary) separated with | --><gallery>
 +File:H-class 3.png|An artist's interpretation of an H-class battleship by Richard Allison
 +File:406-mm SKC-34-1.jpg|One of the 40.6 cm guns at Batterie Lindemann
 +File:Bundesarchiv Bild 193-06-7-16, Schlachtschiff Bismarck.jpg|One of the 15 cm turrets on Bismarck, the same type as would have been mounted on the H class.
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Friedrich der Grosse
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Battleship | Germany | Tier IX
Tech Tree Position
Bismarck
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General
Research price180000 exp
Purchase price15,900,000 Credits
Hit Points72,500 
Main Battery
406 mm/52 SK C/34 on a Drh LC/34 mount4 х 2 pcs.
Rate of Fire2.31 shots/min.
Reload Time26 sec.
Rotation Speed5.5 deg./sec.
180 Degree Turn Time32.73 sec.
Firing Range18.47 km.
Maximum Dispersion263 m.
HE Shell406 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.4 Kz. 
Maximum HE Shell Damage4,800 
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell38 %
Initial HE Shell Velocity810 m./s.
HE Shell Weight1030 kg.
AP Shell406 mm P.Spr.Gr. L/4.4 
Maximum AP Shell Damage12,700 
Initial AP Shell Velocity810 m./s.
AP Shell Weight1030 kg.
Secondary Armament #1
105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/38 mount8 х 2 pcs.
Firing Range7.95 km.
Rate of Fire17.91 shots/min.
Reload Time3.35 sec.
HE Shell105 mm Spr.Gr. Kz. 
Maximum HE Shell Damage1,200 
Initial HE Shell Velocity900 m./s.
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell%
Secondary Armament #2
150 mm/55 SK C/28 on a Dop. L. C/34 mount4 х 2 pcs.
Firing Range7.95 km.
Rate of Fireshots/min.
Reload Time7.5 sec.
HE Shell150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.5 
Maximum HE Shell Damage1,700 
Initial HE Shell Velocity875 m./s.
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell%
Secondary Armament #3
150 mm/55 SK C/28 on a Dop. L. C/34 mount2 х 2 pcs.
Firing Range7.95 km.
Rate of Fireshots/min.
Reload Time7.5 sec.
HE Shell150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.5 
Maximum HE Shell Damage1,700 
Initial HE Shell Velocity875 m./s.
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell%
AA Defense
105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/38 mount8 х 2 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second132.8 
. . . Firing Range4.5 km.
37 mm/83 SK C/30 on a twin mount2 х 2 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second20.6 
. . . Firing Range3.51 km.
37 mm/83 SK C/30 on a Dopp LC/30 mount6 х 2 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second15.6 
. . . Firing Range3.51 km.
20 mm/65 C/38 on a Flak 35 Vierling L/38 mount8 х 4 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second51.2 
. . . Firing Range2.01 km.
Maneuverability
Maximum Speed27.3 knot
Turning Circle Radius940 m.
Rudder Shift Time24.5 sec.
Concealment
Surface Detectability Range16.76 km.
Air Detectability Range12.84 km.
Battle Levels
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15,900,000

Friedrich der Grosse — German Tier IX battleship.

A project developed as part of the program for a large-scale expansion of the German Navy. A further development of Bismarck-class battleships with more powerful main guns and enhanced AA defenses.

Modules

Main Battery Guns Rate of Fire
(shots/min)
180° Turn Time
(sec)
Maximum Dispersion
(m)
Maximum HE Shell Damage
(HP)
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell
(%)
Maximum AP Shell Damage
(HP)
Research price
(exp)
Purchase price
(Credits)
406 mm/52 SK C/34 on a Drh LC/34 mount2.332.72634,8003812,700 02,000,000
420 mm/48 SK C/40 on a Drh LC/34 mount2.132.72635,0004113,500 35,0002,500,000
Hull Hit Points
(HP)
Armor
(mm)
Armor
(mm)
Main Turrets
(pcs.)
Secondary Gun Turrets
(pcs.)
AA Mounts
(pcs.)
Torpedo Tubes
(pcs.)
Hangar Capacity
(pcs.)
Research price
(exp)
Purchase price
(Credits)
Friedrich der Große (A)72,5001940048/68/2/6/8 02,400,000
Friedrich der Große (B)84,3001940048/66/26/8 54,0005,100,000
Fire Control System IDS_SHIP_PARAM_SUO_INCREASE_DIST
(%)
Maximum Firing Range
(km)
Research price
(exp)
Purchase price
(Credits)
FKS Typ 9 Mod. 10 01,000,000
FKS Typ 9 Mod. 20 26,0002,600,000
Engine Maximum Speed
(knot)
Research price
(exp)
Purchase price
(Credits)
Propulsion: 150,000 hp27.3 0600,000
Propulsion: 165,000 hp30 20,0001,500,000

Compatible Upgrades

 Slot 1 
Main Armaments Modification 1
Auxiliary Armaments Modification 1
Magazine Modification 1
Spotting Aircraft Modification 1
Damage Control Party Modification 1
 Slot 2 
Damage Control System Modification 1
Hydroacoustic Search Modification 1
Engine Room Protection
 Slot 3 
Main Battery Modification 2
Secondary Battery Modification 1
AA Guns Modification 1
Aiming Systems Modification 1
 Slot 4 
Damage Control System Modification 2
Propulsion Modification 1
Steering Gears Modification 1
Airstrike Modification 1
 Slot 5 
Torpedo Lookout System
Concealment System Modification 1
Ship Consumables Modification 1
 Slot 6 
Main Battery Modification 3
Gun Fire Control System Modification 2
Auxiliary Armaments Modification 2

Player Opinion

Performance

Based on the unrealized H-39 design plans and sharing her name with one of the Kaiser's sister ships, the Friedrich der Große (English: Frederick the Great) is essentially a super-Bismarck, sporting the same dual AB-XY turret layout (but with larger guns), the same secondary battery (but with a touch longer range), and the same Hydroacoustic Search (but with longer range and duration). Thanks to the gain in displacement, Friedrich has a significantly larger hit point pool than Bismarck, but loses a bit of maneuverability and concealment in the process.

As with Bismarck, Friedrich excels at close-range brawls where the abysmal accuracy of her main guns is less of a factor, while her powerful secondary armament combined with her decent maneuverability and turret traverse can dish out the damage. Here her turtleback armor and Hydroacoustic Search are key factors in protecting her from return fire. Unfortunately, with the rapidly increasing range and firepower at high tiers, combined with unprotected approaches on many maps, she runs a high risk of being focused and sunk if played too forward at the beginning of the game. Captains should moderate their aggression until an opportunity for a combined push and/or to run down a smaller group of enemies presents itself.

Friedrich has the option between two sets of guns: slightly faster-firing but lighter 406 mm guns, and slightly slower-firing but heavier 420 mm guns. The differences are quite marginal in practice; many captains opt to stay with the 406 mm guns as the higher rate of fire makes the poor accuracy slightly less frustrating, and the 420 mm guns cost XP and credits.

Pros:

  • Signature German turtleback armor scheme prevents citadels at close range.
  • Enhanced Hydroacoustic Search with long range and duration.
  • Powerful and numerous secondaries.
  • Decent speed and maneuverability for a ship her size.
  • Fast turret traverse for a battleship.
  • Large HP pool.

Cons:

  • Terrible main battery accuracy combined with poor sigma and a fewer amount of guns makes for a frustrating experience.
  • Secondaries are less effective at this tier.
  • Poor main gun arcs; A lot of broadside is needed in order to fire all 4 turrets.
  • Turrets can be incapacitated relatively easily.
  • Large turn radius.
  • Poor detection range.

Research

The 406mm guns are perfectly serviceable, and require the B hull in order to be researched. The B hull greatly improves your survivability, anti-aircraft armament, and rudder shift so it is highly recommended to research first or second. the GFCS and Engine should be researched next, and the 420mm guns researched last.

Optimal Configuration

Upgrades

As a Tier IX ship, Friedrich der Grosse has access to all six Upgrade Slots. Friedrich der Grosse can build for Secondaries or AA.

Commander Skills

As a tier IX Battleship, Friedrich der Große can be built with either a secondary focus, survivability focus, or anti-aircraft focus. Secondary and anti-aircraft builds can overlap, with both taking advantage of Basic Firing Training and Advanced Firing Training. Captains may also wish to consider skills such as Fire Prevention, Concealment Expert, High Alert, Basics of Surivability, Adrenaline Rush, and Jack of All Trades. Expert Marksman is also highly recommended.

Consumables

As a tier IX German battleship, Friedrich der Große has access to the following consumables and their premium versions: Damage Control Party, Spotting Aircraft, Catapult Fighter, and Hydroacoustic Search.

Camouflage

Type 1, 2, or 5 camouflage can be equipped for credits; Types 2 or 5 are recommended at a minimum to reduce the accuracy of incoming shells.

Players who wish to spend doubloons can equip Friedrich der Große with Type 19 camouflage that lowers her detection radius and the cost for her post-battle service, reduces the accuracy of incoming shells, and increases the amount of experience and credits she earns.

Signals

As a tier IX Battleship, Friedrich der Große benefits greatly from signals that improve her survivability, such as November Foxtrot, India Delta, and India Yankee. Signals that increase XP and credit earnings can also be useful, as well as those that boost her secondary battery and anti-aircraft armament.


Note: Use of the Juliet Charlie signal makes detonation impossible.

Gallery

Historical Info

Historical Gallery

References

https://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_16-52_skc34.php

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