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?* No historical records of the T25/2 tank exists. The T25 itself would have classified as a medium tank since it's a prototype for the M26 Pershing.+The T25 prototype number 2 is actually an upgraded T23E3 with HVSS suspension, 90 mm gun and cast turret. The version depicted in World of Tanks is fake. See [http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:A111_T25_Pilot T25 Pilot Number 1] for the historical version.
 +* Actually a medium tank, not a tank destroyer.
 +* Large cast turret derived from the T23E3 is missing. The M36 Jackson turret configuration is fake.
 * Additionally, the in-game T25/2 mounts the M36 Jackson turret with the 90mm gun. However, the T25 medium tank itself was able to equip the 90mm gun without the need of the M36 turret. * Additionally, the in-game T25/2 mounts the M36 Jackson turret with the 90mm gun. However, the T25 medium tank itself was able to equip the 90mm gun without the need of the M36 turret.
 +* The Continental AV-1790 engine was only mounted on the M26E2/M46. Its configuration on the T25 is fake.
 +* The T25's engine is considerably more powerful than in reality, with 704 hp compared to the historical 470.
 +* The T15E2 gun was only mounted on the [[T26E4 SuperPershing]]. Its configuration on the T25 is fake.
  
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Signal Range
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Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)

Camouflage

  • Stationary: 18.3%
  • When Moving: 11.1%
  • When Firing: 6.6%


Terrain Resistance

  • On Hard Ground: 1.15
  • On Medium Ground: 13.42
  • On Soft Ground: 2.21


Dispersion Change Values

  • Turret Contribution
  • Rotation: 0.12
  • Shot Recoil: 3.07
  • Suspension Contribution
  • Acceleration: 0.22
  • Turning: 0.22


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When fully upgraded, the T25/2 has similar speed and maneuverability to the T25 AT. However, unlike the T25 AT, the T25/2's turret cannot mount the powerful 105 mm AT Gun T5E1. The combination of only being able to use the 90 mm AT Gun T15E2 gun along with poor armor limits the T25/2 to the second line on the battlefield. The T25/2 does get a fully enclosed turret upgrade, which increases its ability to withstand HE and artillery rounds. Using your speed to get into positions and provide fire support to your allies quickly while avoiding enemy fire is key to playing this tank destroyer.

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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Radios

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Weight
(kg)
Price
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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Turret mantlet is surprisingly bouncy and the addition of a roof cover on 2nd turret reduces artillery and HE damage
  • Good speed and reasonable mobility once upgraded
  • Great aim time on both guns
  • Good for hull down, thanks to its small and surprisingly bouncy turret, excellent gun depression and relatively low hull
  • Good camouflage


Cons:


  • Armour is almost useless when in battles of higher tier
  • Worst top gun of its tier; bad penetration and alpha damage
  • Poor turret traverse
  • Turret is easily damaged
  • Can be an extremely painful stock grind


Performance

It is important not to think of this tank as a progression from the Hellcat, but rather as a larger Jackson as the TD plays much more like the slower Jackson than the speedy Hellcat. Its highest gun is adequate for its own tier, though it is rare to be at the top of the list. It is best to use this as a second line tank, sniping at already engaged tanks or hitting them from out of their range before relocating. The depression of its guns is excellent, allowing you to make shots that most opponents wouldn't expect, especially if you are on higher or lower ground, and can save you from some difficult encounters. It is imperative to aim for the weak spots on opponents as the T15E2 gun has poor penetration for its tier, and avoid fighting alone or spearheading an attack. If possible, try to remain undetected whilst killing off low-health targets. If detected, use its speed to relocate before taking too much damage. Coming from the M18 Hellcat, to which it is inferior in most ways, despite being a tier higher, the T25/2 may seem like a let-down, especially when it is stock. However, when viewed objectively, it is still a good TD that can perform well. One major advantage over the Hellcat is the smaller dispersion after moving, turning the turret, or firing. This makes the T25/2 more capable of taking snapshots and gives it a limited dogfighting ability when caught by enemy tanks at close range.


Early Research

  • The SCR 506 radio carries over from the T82, and should be equipped immediately.
  • Next, go for the engine, as it greatly increases your maneuverability.
  • The stock suspension cannot hold anything else now, so go for the next suspension upgrade.
  • Then, the upgraded turret to hold the upgrade 90mm.
  • Last, the upgrade 90mm, for an increase of 10 millimeters of penetration.


Suggested Equipment


Tank Gun Rammer Camouflage Net Binocular Telescope 


Gallery

Historical Info

With encounters with German Tiger tanks in Tunisia, tanks crews were wanting a tank with bigger guns than 75 mm and 76 mm.

In March 1943 a new turret was fitted with a 90 mm AA gun and put onto a T23 model.

The Army Service Forces placed an order for 50 of these tanks.1 10 of these were to be T26s. The first T25s were completed until early 1944.

A request for 8,000 T25s and T26s with 75 mm and 76 mm guns was rejected.

Development

The T25 and T26 lines of tanks came into being in the midst of a heated internal debate within the U.S. Army in the mid-1943 to early 1944 over the need for tanks with greater firepower and armor. A 90 mm gun mounted in a massive new turret was installed in both series. The T26 series were given additional frontal hull armor, with the glacis plate increased to 4 in (10 cm). This increased the weight of the T26 series to over 40 short tons (36 t) and decreased their mobility and durability as the engine and powertrain were not improved to compensate for the weight gain.


Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

The T25 prototype number 2 is actually an upgraded T23E3 with HVSS suspension, 90 mm gun and cast turret. The version depicted in World of Tanks is fake. See T25 Pilot Number 1 for the historical version.
  • Actually a medium tank, not a tank destroyer.
  • Large cast turret derived from the T23E3 is missing. The M36 Jackson turret configuration is fake.
  • Additionally, the in-game T25/2 mounts the M36 Jackson turret with the 90mm gun. However, the T25 medium tank itself was able to equip the 90mm gun without the need of the M36 turret.
  • The Continental AV-1790 engine was only mounted on the M26E2/M46. Its configuration on the T25 is fake.
  • The T25's engine is considerably more powerful than in reality, with 704 hp compared to the historical 470.
  • The T15E2 gun was only mounted on the T26E4 SuperPershing. Its configuration on the T25 is fake.


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