AMX 50 Foch
AMX 50 Foch
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3,670,000 Cost |
1550310 HP Hit Points |
50.2/59.5615.88/62.56 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator)
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader
8501000 hp Engine Power |
50/13 km/h Speed Limit |
2628 deg/s Traverse |
16.9362.97 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
YesYes Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
1060/4800/900
1060/4800/900 Shell Cost |
400/400/515400/400/515 HP Damage |
257/325/65257/325/65 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
5.83 r/m Magazine-fed Gun ▲
5.83 Rate of Fire Magazine-fed Gun |
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Magazine-fed Gun
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Magazine-fed Gun
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2616 Magazine-fed Gun ▲
Magazine-fed Gun
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Magazine-fed Gun
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2616 Damage Per Minute Magazine-fed Gun |
m ▲
0.35 m With 50% Crew: 0.434 m ▲
0.35 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.434 m |
s 2.5 s 2.5 Aim time |
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
20° Gun Arc |
-6°/+18°-6°/+18° Elevation Arc |
6868 rounds Ammo Capacity |
2015 % Chance of Fire |
m 380 m 380 View Range |
m 400 m 750 Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 14%
- When Moving: 8.6%
- When Firing: 4%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 1.25
- On Medium Ground: 1.34
- On Soft Ground: 2.3
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.19
- Shot Recoil: 3.84
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.19
- Turning: 0.19
With 100% Crew
IX
3670000
The AMX 50 Foch is a French tier 9 tank destroyer.
From the late 1940s to the early 1950s, France was developing heavy tank destroyers. This project was developed under the influence of German tank destroyers of WWII. The vehicle featured a 120-mm gun. At least one prototype was built, which took part in the military parade in Paris on July 14, 1950. Never saw mass production.
A progressive update of the AC Mle 46 and 48, the 50 Foch continues to follow the 'all-or-nothing' trend by focusing all its effective armor and firepower into a narrow frontal arc. The single-fire 120mm gun allows for the Foch to lay down steady fire at any range, contrasting from the burst attack style of autoloaded French tanks. An intimidating tank to face in one-on-one engagements at medium-to-long range, the Foch is a specialist assault tank that can either be its own one-tank push or an effective supporter for larger efforts.
The AMX 50 Foch leads to the AMX 50 Foch B.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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X | 120 mm AC SA46 | 257/325/65 | 400/400/515 | 5.83 | 0.35 | 2.5 | 3580 | 339000 |
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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IX | Maybach HL 295 | 850 | 20 | 750 | 78000 | |
IX | Saurer | 1000 | 15 | 750 | 99800 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | AMX 50 Foch | 59.56 | 26 | 0 | 11000 | 27650 | |
IX | AMX 50 Foch bis | 62.56 | 28 | 0 | 11000 | 64000 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Very strong frontal armor
- Gun is very accurate and has improved handling characteristics compared to Modèle 1948
- Good maximum straight-line speed with good acceleration and high traverse speed
- Low profile
Cons:
- Nonexistant side/rear/top armor and large weakspots
- Average damage per shell
- Poor gun dispersion values
- Worst pen of any tier 9 TD, even worse than the tortoise
Performance
The AMX 50 Foch can be an intimidating machine in the correct hands, it is best suited to sitting back from afar hiding, behind bushes and shooting at enemy side and rear armor, but can also be used to engage enemy tank frontally thanks to its fantastic front armor and high penetrating gun. Its high mobility allows this tank to quickly relocate to vantage spots if needed. Despite looking like its tier VIII counterpart, the AMX AC Mle. 1948, both on paper and in game visual, the AMX 50 Foch does have better aim time, faster reload, more hp and improved camo rating. However, it does have its weak points that are shared with its predecessor, most notably paper-thin side and rear armor. Scouts can easily pen the sides of this tank and tier 7+ arty can deal maximum damage on side and rear armor, so it is vital to have the perk Sixth Sense to know when you are spotted and when to move.
Early Research
- Nothing much to research except for the upgrade suspension and upgrade engine (which is shared with the AMX 50 120)
- Stock suspension can handle a lot of weight, therefore engine > track.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
The M 4 closely resembled the German King Tiger in general form, though the turret was to be made of welded sections; but to limit the weight to a desired thirty metric tonnes the proportions were rather smaller and the armor had a maximum of just thirty millimeters. Like the later German tanks of the war it had, in this case eight, overlapping road wheels. Part of the project was to study whether a modern torsion bar suspension should be used or the height lowered by ten centimeters through a fitting of leaf or coil springs.
Two prototypes of the M 4 were ordered. The Army soon indicated that a protection level of thirty millimeters was unacceptably low. In response armor was increased. To save weight it was decided to install a novel oscillating turret, designed by FAMH. Nevertheless, when the first prototype, now named the AMX 50 after its intended weight class, was delivered in 1949, it weighed 53.7 metric tonnes. In the winter of 1950 instead of the 90 mm, a 100 mm gun was fitted, designed by the Arsenal de Tarbes. The second prototype with a slightly different turret, but also with a 100 mm gun, was ready soon after. The prototypes had a length, with gun, of 10.43, a width of 3.40 and a height of 3.41 meters. It was intended to fit a 1200 hp engine to attain a speed much superior to all existing medium tank types. The Maybach HL 295 (a redesigned German gas engine in 1945 captured at Friedrichshafen by Engineer-General Joseph Molinié) and a Saurer diesel engine were tested. Both failed to deliver the required output and maximum speed was in fact no higher than 51 km/h. The prototypes were tested between 1950 and 1952.
Based on the M 4 chassis in 1950, AMX presented a prototype of a heavy tank destroyer in the form of a 120 mm self-propelled gun, the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was intended to give long range fire support to the medium/heavy AMX 50 100 mm model. The design had a lot of similarities with German Jagdpanther tank destroyer. It had a long bareled 120 mm gun with a muzzle break attached to a well sloped and heavily armored flat profile vehicle. Remotely controlled anti-aircraft machinegun was placed on the right side of the roof, while commander’s cupola with the range finder was pushed to the left.
Unlike previous post war concepts like the Mle. 1948, several AMX 50 TDs were built, the first in 1950. Field tests were promising, and army started to prepare to adopt AMX 50 Foch in small numbers. When AMX engineers managed to install a 120 mm gun into an oscillating turret of the AMX 50 120 tank, Foch immediately become obsolete and all further development and production were stopped.
Historical Gallery