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AMX 50 Foch

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France | TD | Tier IX
Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
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3,670,000  Credits Cost
1550310 HP Hit Points
50.2/59.5615.88/62.56 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
Mobility
8501000 hp Engine Power
50/13 km/h Speed Limit
2628 deg/s Traverse
16.9362.97 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
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400/400/515400/400/515 HP Damage
257/325/65257/325/65 mm Penetration



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5.83 r/m 
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Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.4 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 34 s
50% Crew: 42.12 s
75% Crew: 36.78 s
100% Crew: 32.6 s
With Vents: 31.88 s
With Vents and BiA: 31.19 s

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5.83 r/m 
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Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 4 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.4 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 34 s
50% Crew: 42.12 s
75% Crew: 36.78 s
100% Crew: 32.6 s
With Vents: 31.88 s
With Vents and BiA: 31.19 s

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2616
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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2616
50% Crew: 2520
75% Crew: 2580
100% Crew: 2632
With Vents: 2624
With Vents and BiA: 2632

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2868
50% Crew: 2820
75% Crew: 2852
100% Crew: 2876
With Vents: 2872
With Vents and BiA: 2876

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2616
50% Crew: 2520
75% Crew: 2580
100% Crew: 2632
With Vents: 2624
With Vents and BiA: 2632

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2868
50% Crew: 2820
75% Crew: 2852
100% Crew: 2876
With Vents: 2872
With Vents and BiA: 2876

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3368.1
50% Crew: 3244.5
75% Crew: 3321.75
100% Crew: 3388.7
With Vents: 3378.4
With Vents and BiA: 3388.7

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3692.55
50% Crew: 3630.75
75% Crew: 3671.95
100% Crew: 3702.85
With Vents: 3697.7
With Vents and BiA: 3702.85

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2616
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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2616
50% Crew: 2520
75% Crew: 2580
100% Crew: 2632
With Vents: 2624
With Vents and BiA: 2632

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2868
50% Crew: 2820
75% Crew: 2852
100% Crew: 2876
With Vents: 2872
With Vents and BiA: 2876

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2616
50% Crew: 2520
75% Crew: 2580
100% Crew: 2632
With Vents: 2624
With Vents and BiA: 2632

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2868
50% Crew: 2820
75% Crew: 2852
100% Crew: 2876
With Vents: 2872
With Vents and BiA: 2876

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3368.1
50% Crew: 3244.5
75% Crew: 3321.75
100% Crew: 3388.7
With Vents: 3378.4
With Vents and BiA: 3388.7

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3692.55
50% Crew: 3630.75
75% Crew: 3671.95
100% Crew: 3702.85
With Vents: 3697.7
With Vents and BiA: 3702.85

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0.35 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.434 m
With 75% Crew: 0.379 m
With 100% Crew: 0.336 m
With BiA: 0.328 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.321 m
Maximum possible: 0.308 m

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0.35 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.434 m
With 75% Crew: 0.379 m
With 100% Crew: 0.336 m
With BiA: 0.328 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.321 m
Maximum possible: 0.308 m

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2.5 s 
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With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

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2.5 s 
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With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

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 Aim time
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
20° Gun Arc
-6°/+18°-6°/+18° Elevation Arc
6868 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
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380 m 
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With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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380 m 
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With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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400 m 
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With 50% Crew: 314.3 m
With 75% Crew: 357.2 m
With 100% Crew: 400 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 575.6 m

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750 m 
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With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

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 Signal Range
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AMX AC mle. 48
AMX 50 Foch
AMX 50 Foch B


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The AMX 50 Foch is a French tier 9 tank destroyer.

From the late 1940s to the early 1950s, France was developing heavy tank destroyers. This project was developed under the influence of German tank destroyers of WWII. The vehicle featured a 120-mm gun. At least one prototype was built, which took part in the military parade in Paris on July 14, 1950. Never saw mass production.

The AMX 50 Foch leads to the AMX 50 Foch B.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X 120 mm AC SA46 257/325/65 400/400/515 5.83 0.35 2.5 3580 339000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

IX Maybach HL 295 850 20 750 78000
IX Saurer 1000 15 750 99800

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VIII AMX 50 Foch 59.56 26 0 11000 27650
IX AMX 50 Foch bis 62.56 28 0 11000 64000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 1 Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 1 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 1 Improved Hardening Class 1 Additional Grousers Class 1 Modified Configuration Class 1 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 1 Improved Aiming Class 1 Improved Ventilation Class 1 Binocular Telescope Class 1 Turbocharger Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Strong frontal armor
  • High damage per minute
  • Same gun from the AMX AC Mle. 1948 but with better reload and aiming in time
  • Great accuracy
  • Very agile


Cons:


  • Very low rear and side armor
  • Average damage per shell
  • Noticeable weakspot on upper tank
  • If SPG's hit side/rear armour they can do full damage


Performance

The AMX 50 Foch can be a formidable machine in the correct hands, it is best suited to sitting back from afar hiding, behind bushes and shooting at enemy side and rear armour. It's high mobility allows this tank to quickly relocate to vantage spots if needed. Despite looking like its tier VIII counterpart both on paper and in game visual the AMX 50 Foch has noticeable better attributes such as; better aiming in time, faster reload and even better camo rating. However, it does have its weak points that are shared with its predecessor, as scouts can easily pen the sides of this tank and tier 7+ arty deal maximum damage on side and rear armour, so it is vital to have the perk Sixth Sense to know when you are spotted and when to move.


Early Research

  • Nothing much to research except for the upgrade suspension and upgrade engine (which is shared with the AMX 50 120.)
  • Stock suspension can handle a lot of weight, therefore engine > track.


Suggested Equipment


Large-caliber Tank Gun Rammer Binocular Telescope Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Improved Ventilation Class 3


Gallery

Historical Info

Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch
After the war the French Army possessed no modern tanks with a heavy armament. The ARL 44 was being developed, but this vehicle, though to be armed with a powerful 90 mm gun, could hardly be called modern, as its suspension system was obsolete. Therefore already in March 1945 the French industry had been invited to design a more satisfactory vehicle. The same year the AMX company (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux) presented its projet 141, a project to build the so-called M 4 prototype, armed with a 90 mm Schneider gun.

The M 4 closely resembled the German King Tiger in general form, though the turret was to be made of welded sections; but to limit the weight to a desired thirty metric tonnes the proportions were rather smaller and the armour had a maximum of just thirty millimetres. Like the later German tanks of the war it had, in this case eight, overlapping road wheels. Part of the project was to study whether a modern torsion bar suspension should be used or the height lowered by ten centimetres through a fitting of leaf or coil springs.

Two prototypes of the M 4 were ordered. The Army soon indicated that a protection level of thirty millimetres was unacceptably low. In response armour was increased. To save weight it was decided to install a novel oscillating turret, designed by FAMH. Nevertheless, when the first prototype, now named the AMX 50 after its intended weight class, was delivered in 1949, it weighed 53.7 metric tonnes. In the winter of 1950 instead of the 90 mm, a 100 mm gun was fitted, designed by the Arsenal de Tarbes. The second prototype with a slightly different turret, but also with a 100 mm gun, was ready soon after. The prototypes had a length, with gun, of 10.43, a width of 3.40 and a height of 3.41 metres. It was intended to fit a 1200 hp engine to attain a speed much superior to all existing medium tank types. The Maybach HL 295 (a redesigned German gas engine in 1945 captured at Friedrichshafen by Engineer-General Joseph Molinié) and a Saurer diesel engine were tested. Both failed to deliver the required output and maximum speed was in fact no higher than 51 km/h. The prototypes were tested between 1950 and 1952.

AMX 50 Foch

Based on the M 4 chassis in 1950, AMX presented a prototype of a heavy tank destroyer in the form of a 120 mm self-propelled gun, the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was intended to give long range fire support to the medium/heavy AMX 50 100 mm model. The design had a lot of similarities with German Jagdpanther tank destroyer. It had a long bareled 120 mm gun with a muzzle break attached to a well sloped and heavily armored flat profile vehicle. Remotely controlled anti-aircraft machinegun was placed on the right side of the roof, while commander’s cupola with the range finder was pushed to the left.

Unlike previous post war concepts like the Mle. 1948, several AMX 50 TDs were built, the first in 1950. Field tests were promising, and army started to prepare to adopt AMX 50 Foch in small numbers. When AMX engineers managed to install a 120 mm gun into an oscillating turret of the AMX 50 120 tank, Foch immediately become obsolete and all further development and production were stopped.


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