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SU-8

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USSR | SPG | Tier VI
Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
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Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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932,000  Credits Cost
30060 HP Hit Points
21.78/21.88.59/24.5 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Gunner
  4. Driver
  5. Loader
  6. Loader
Mobility
440500 hp Engine Power
48/12 km/h Speed Limit
2022 deg/s Traverse
20.258.21 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
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810/970/920
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500//550/650/380 HP Damage
30//38/48/182 mm Penetration



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3.33 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 18 s
50% Crew: 22.3 s
75% Crew: 19.47 s
100% Crew: 17.26 s
Rammer: 15.53 s
Vents: 16.88 s
Both: 15.19 s
Both and BiA: 14.86 s
Both and Max Crew %: 14.25 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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2.93 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 20.5 s
50% Crew: 25.4 s
75% Crew: 22.17 s
100% Crew: 19.66 s
Rammer: 17.69 s
Vents: 19.23 s
Both: 17.3 s
Both and BiA: 16.93 s
Both and Max Crew %: 16.23 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
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1665
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (500 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1665
50% Crew: 1345
75% Crew: 1540
100% Crew: 1735
100% Crew
Vents: 1775
Rammer: 1930
Both: 1970
Both and BiA: 2015
Both and Max Crew %: 2100

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2165
50% Crew: 1845
75% Crew: 2040
100% Crew: 2235
100% Crew
Rammer: 2430
Vents: 2275
Both: 2470
Both and BiA: 2515
Both and Max Crew %: 2600

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1611.5
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (550 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1611.5
50% Crew: 1303.5
75% Crew: 1490.5
100% Crew: 1683
100% Crew
Vents: 1721.5
Rammer: 1870
Both: 1914
Both and BiA: 1952.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2040.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2161.5
50% Crew: 1853.5
75% Crew: 2040.5
100% Crew: 2233
100% Crew
Rammer: 2420
Vents: 2271.5
Both: 2464
Both and BiA: 2502.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2590.5

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (650 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1904.5
50% Crew: 1540.5
75% Crew: 1761.5
100% Crew: 1989
100% Crew
Vents: 2034.5
Rammer: 2210
Both: 2262
Both and BiA: 2307.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2411.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2554.5
50% Crew: 2190.5
75% Crew: 2411.5
100% Crew: 2639
100% Crew
Rammer: 2860
Vents: 2684.5
Both: 2912
Both and BiA: 2957.5
Both and Max Crew %: 3061.5

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (380 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1113.4
50% Crew: 900.6
75% Crew: 1029.8
100% Crew: 1162.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1189.4
Rammer: 1292
Both: 1322.4
Both and BiA: 1349
Both and Max Crew %: 1409.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1493.4
50% Crew: 1280.6
75% Crew: 1409.8
100% Crew: 1542.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 1672
Vents: 1569.4
Both: 1702.4
Both and BiA: 1729
Both and Max Crew %: 1789.8

See here, here, or here for more information.
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0.76 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.941 m
With 75% Crew: 0.822 m
With 100% Crew: 0.729 m
With BiA: 0.713 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.697 m
Maximum possible: 0.668 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.75 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.929 m
With 75% Crew: 0.811 m
With 100% Crew: 0.719 m
With BiA: 0.703 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.688 m
Maximum possible: 0.659 m

For more details, see Crew
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5.5 s 
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With 50% Crew: 6.813 s
With 75% Crew: 5.949 s
With 100% Crew: 5.274 s
With GLD: 4.794 s
With BiA: 5.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 5.045 s
With both and GLD: 4.587 s
Maximum possible: 4.396 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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5.7 s 
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With 50% Crew: 7.061 s
With 75% Crew: 6.165 s
With 100% Crew: 5.465 s
With GLD: 4.969 s
With BiA: 5.345 s
With BiA and Vents: 5.229 s
With both and GLD: 4.753 s
Maximum possible: 4.556 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
 Aim time
1818 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
17° Gun Arc
-4°/+44°-4°/+44° Elevation Arc
2626 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






260 m 
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With 50% Crew: 204.3 m
With 75% Crew: 232.2 m
With 100% Crew: 260 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m
With Coated Optics: 286 m
With Binocular Telescope: 325 m
Maximum possible: 372.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






260 m 
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With 50% Crew: 204.3 m
With 75% Crew: 232.2 m
With 100% Crew: 260 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m
With Coated Optics: 286 m
With Binocular Telescope: 325 m
Maximum possible: 372.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 View Range


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360 m 
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With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 432 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 396 m
Maximum possible: 518 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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625 m 
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With 50% Crew: 491.1 m
With 75% Crew: 558.1 m
With 100% Crew: 625 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 750 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 687.5 m
Maximum possible: 899.3 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top
SU-122A
SU-8
S-51


VI

AnnoR26_SU-8.png

932000

The SU-8 is a Soviet tier 6 self-propelled gun.

Developed in 1934–1935 at the Experimental Kirov Plant in Leningrad. Variants with frontal and rear placement of fighting compartment were designed. Never saw service or mass production.

With this artillery, you can almost fire all the way across the map. Like most Soviet artillery, the SU-8 fires at a high arc, so it can hit tanks behind cover more effectively than its counterpart, the Hummel. It can also hide close in cover and be somewhat immune to counter-battery fire from low arcing shots. It is harder to hit moving targets with the SU-8 due to the significantly low shell velocity. The weapons available require more time to aim than those on earlier Soviet artillery. It does get the 152mm howitzer, which packs a punch that the earlier Soviet artillery lacked.

The SU-8 leads to the S-51.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VI 122 mm Howitzer A-19 30 500 3.33 0.76 5.5 2340 60000
VI 152 mm Howitzer ML-20 mod. 1931 38/48/182 550/650/380 2.93 0.75 5.7 2363 64830

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

IV M-17T 500 20 610 13460
IV M-17L 1,400 r/min 450 20 610 10770
IV M-5-400F 440 20 410 10000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

V SU-8 21.8 20 0 5160 8500
VI SU-8 Bis 24.5 22 0 5160 13600

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

V 10R 360 100 3660
IX 12RT 625 110 33600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters Manual Fire Extinguisher Pre-Battle Maintenance Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Lend-Lease Oil Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Extra Combat Rations Removed Speed Governor Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Gun range: both: 1350 m
  • Good vehicle accerelation
  • High ammo capacity
  • High gun arc


Cons:


  • Horrible accuracy makes this arty useless after 8.6
  • Low vehicle traverse speed


Performance

If you can hit the enemy's rear or sides, you can hit hard. Otherwise, you generally hit about "250 - 350". This SPG is a good improvement over the SU-122A because it has high ammo capacity and and improvements in gun arc, shell velocity, mobility, and general gun statistics. It has one of the fastest aim times of all the tier VI counterparts, so with the GLD, it aim will be lightning fast, a significant advantage. With higher ammo capacity, you can expect more shots, though still try to make every shot count due to the low accuracy, and with better range, you don't have to keep up with your team. If you need to relocate, the tank has an amazing 21 hp/t ratio and can easily relocate.


Early Research

  • The 12RT Radio carries over from the SU-122A. Mount it immediately.
  • First, research the SU-8 Bis Suspension.
  • Next, research the 152 mm Howitzer ML-20 mod. 1931.
  • Now, research the M-17T Engine, followed by the M-17F Engine.


Suggested Equipment


Artillery Shell Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Camouflage Net 


Gallery

Historical Info

The SU-8 is a variant of the T-28.

In the interwar period, which created a number of projects of self-propelled light works, the SU-8 project was conceived. The project was a heavy self-propelled gun on the chassis of a medium tank, the T-28. The original chassis was retained as well as the rear engine section. But all the mechanical parts were stripped out and completely changed. Lafetovaný was a 76.2 mm caliber cannon, which was protected by the folding armored sides. The sides in the fight would be unfolded and thus allow the cannon to rotate sideways.

Information regarding the prototype contain large uncertainties. Some sources claim that some were been built, and others that the project remained only on paper. Work on the project started in 1932 under the leadership of prof. FLChlystova in the research department of the artillery academy. The reason for cancellation of the project was the attenuation of the production T-28.


Historical Gallery

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