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AMX M4 mle. 45

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France | Heavy Tank | Tier VII
Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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1 395 000  Credits Cost
12001350 HP Hit Points
52.15/5355.28/60 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Comandante
  2. Artillero
  3. Conductor
  4. Operador de radio
  5. Cargador
Mobility
575850 hp Engine Power
35/12 km/h Speed Limit
2224 deg/s Traverse
11.0315.38 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
90/40/40 mm Hull Armor
110/30/30100/70/40 mm Turret Armor
Armament







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Shell Cost
240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage
135/175/45212/259/45 mm Penetration



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7.89 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.6 s
50% Crew: 9.41 s
75% Crew: 8.22 s
100% Crew: 7.29 s
Rammer: 6.56 s
Vents: 7.13 s
Both: 6.42 s
Both and BiA: 6.28 s
Both and Max Crew %: 6.02 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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6.98 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 8.6 s
50% Crew: 10.65 s
75% Crew: 9.3 s
100% Crew: 8.25 s
Rammer: 7.43 s
Vents: 8.07 s
Both: 7.26 s
Both and BiA: 7.1 s
Both and Max Crew %: 6.81 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1893.6

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1893.6
50% Crew: 1528.8
75% Crew: 1749.6
100% Crew: 1975.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2020.8
Rammer: 2193.6
Both: 2244
Both and BiA: 2294.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2392.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2133.6
50% Crew: 1768.8
75% Crew: 1989.6
100% Crew: 2215.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2433.6
Vents: 2260.8
Both: 2484
Both and BiA: 2534.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2632.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1893.6
50% Crew: 1528.8
75% Crew: 1749.6
100% Crew: 1975.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2020.8
Rammer: 2193.6
Both: 2244
Both and BiA: 2294.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2392.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2133.6
50% Crew: 1768.8
75% Crew: 1989.6
100% Crew: 2215.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2433.6
Vents: 2260.8
Both: 2484
Both and BiA: 2534.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2632.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2524.8
50% Crew: 2038.4
75% Crew: 2332.8
100% Crew: 2633.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2694.4
Rammer: 2924.8
Both: 2992
Both and BiA: 3059.2
Both and Max Crew %: 3190.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2844.8
50% Crew: 2358.4
75% Crew: 2652.8
100% Crew: 2953.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 3244.8
Vents: 3014.4
Both: 3312
Both and BiA: 3379.2
Both and Max Crew %: 3510.4

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1675.2

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1675.2
50% Crew: 1351.2
75% Crew: 1548
100% Crew: 1747.2
100% Crew
Vents: 1785.6
Rammer: 1941.6
Both: 1984.8
Both and BiA: 2028
Both and Max Crew %: 2116.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1915.2
50% Crew: 1591.2
75% Crew: 1788
100% Crew: 1987.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2181.6
Vents: 2025.6
Both: 2224.8
Both and BiA: 2268
Both and Max Crew %: 2356.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1675.2
50% Crew: 1351.2
75% Crew: 1548
100% Crew: 1747.2
100% Crew
Vents: 1785.6
Rammer: 1941.6
Both: 1984.8
Both and BiA: 2028
Both and Max Crew %: 2116.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1915.2
50% Crew: 1591.2
75% Crew: 1788
100% Crew: 1987.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2181.6
Vents: 2025.6
Both: 2224.8
Both and BiA: 2268
Both and Max Crew %: 2356.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2233.6
50% Crew: 1801.6
75% Crew: 2064
100% Crew: 2329.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2380.8
Rammer: 2588.8
Both: 2646.4
Both and BiA: 2704
Both and Max Crew %: 2822.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2553.6
50% Crew: 2121.6
75% Crew: 2384
100% Crew: 2649.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 2908.8
Vents: 2700.8
Both: 2966.4
Both and BiA: 3024
Both and Max Crew %: 3142.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.4 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.496 m
With 75% Crew: 0.433 m
With 100% Crew: 0.384 m
With BiA: 0.375 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.367 m
Maximum possible: 0.352 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.5 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
3230 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-10°/+14°-10°/+12° Elevation Arc
7474 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






330 m 

With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 605.4 m
With 75% Crew: 693.4 m
With 100% Crew: 782.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1125.9 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


VII

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1395000

The AMX M4 mle. 45 is a French tier 7 heavy tank.

El desarrollo de este carro pesado empezó en 1945. El vehículo incorporaba varias características de diseño del Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B Tiger II. Solo existió en anteproyectos. Más tarde, el AMX M4 (1945) fue un prototipo del AMX 50 100.

The AMX M4 45 can be considered an evolution of its predecessor play-style. It uses the same guns as the ARL 44, which are less outstanding for its tier, but with improved rate of fire, accuracy, and aim time. Although the M4 45 sports better track protection, its overall armor is weaker than the ARL 44's, and very poor for its tier. However, it receives fairly good mobility for a heavy tank in exchange, and is fairly effective in a supporting role, setting the pattern for future French heavy tanks.

The AMX M4 mle. 45 leads to the AMX 50 100, and the AMX 65 t.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII 90 mm DCA 30 135/175/45 240/240/320 8.22 0.4 2.3 2050 64000
VII 105 mm Canon 13TR 175/223/54 300/330/360 6.25 0.41 2.7 2400 94350
VII 90 mm F3 170/248/45 240/240/320 7.5 0.38 2.3 2200 87000
VIII 90 mm DCA 45 212/259/45 240/240/320 6.98 0.36 2.5 2750 121250

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI ARL 44 110/30/30 32 330 4000 14520
VII AMX M4 mle. 45 100/70/40 30 360 6400 20500

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI Maybach HL 230 575 20 700 26000
VIII Maybach HL 230 P45F 750 20 750 55000
IX Maybach HL 295 850 20 750 78000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI AMX M4 mle. 45 53 22 B/2 8000 9550
VII AMX M4 mle. 45 bis 60 24 B/2 8000 18500

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR 528F 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600


Compatible Equipment

Planchas antifragmentación pesadas Red de camuflaje Llenado de tanques con CO2 Ópticas recubiertas Ópticas experimentales Cierre de retícula duradero Sistema de ventilación Sistema de carga experimental Kit de piezas de repuesto ampliado Cierre de retícula mejorado Ballestas mejoradas clase 3 Ventilación mejorada clase 3 Barra de carga para carro pesada Telescopio binocular Caja de herramientas Compartimento de munición "húmedo" clase 2 

Compatible Consumables

Extintor automático de incendios Cobertura natural Calibración de ópticas Cierre de retícula afinado Expertos en extinción de incendios Gasolina de 100 octanos Gasolina de 105 octanos Extintor manual de incendios Café fuerte Purga de gases Botiquín de primeros auxilios grande Kit de reparación grande El deber ante todo Organizador de proyectiles Depósito de munición ordenado Enfoque en el objetivo Concentración aumentada Botiquín de primeros auxilios pequeño Kit de reparación pequeño Caja de cambios compleja Mano firme Mantenimiento previo a la batalla Curso de combate 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Great choice of guns, excellent AP/APCR penetration with the 90 mm DCA 45
  • Great gun depression (10 degrees only on the front 160 degree arc, none on the sides and rear)
  • Rounded frontal turret armour with acceptable thickness
  • Good overall mobility for a heavy tank with high HP ratio
  • Easy stock grind; all guns carry over from ARL 44


Cons:


  • Limited frontal armour, along with atrocious side and rear armour vulnerable to overmatch by 120mm shells
  • Average alpha, underwhelming rate-of-fire, terrible DPM, long aim time and bad dispersion values with the 90 mm DCA 45
  • Large silhouette and bad camo rating
  • Low top speed (35km/h) somewhat detracts from its mobility
  • Sickening view range


Performance

The M4 45 plays similarly to its peer, the Pz.Kpfw. VI Tiger. Compared to the Tiger, it receives slightly better frontal armor, somewhat more powerful guns, better gun depression, and a better power-to-weight ratio in exchange for much worse side and rear armor, generally poorer soft statistics like rate-of-fire, terrain resistance and gun dispersion, and a much lower health pool. Therefore, it is very important to avoid taking fire at all times and to a greater extent, avoid being spotted. The AMX M4 45 must make the most out of its improved cannon to stay competitive on the battlefield. Furthermore, getting used to poor armor and assuming a supporting sniper role will help very much in preparing players for the AMX 50 100 and the similar vehicles that follow it.

The 90 mm DCA 45, 90 mm F3, and 105 mm Canon 13TR were previously also available on the ARL 44, and on the M4 1945 receive generally better characteristics. However, with the tougher opposition faced by the M4 45, APCR will be needed with the latter two guns. The DCA 45's outstanding penetration is generally sufficient with AP, even at Tier 7.

With its powerful engine, the M4 45 is fairly mobile for a heavy tank, although the poor top speed and reverse speed can be disappointing, especially with its poor armour. The turret is somewhat stronger than the ARL 44's, but the hull is significantly weaker. Artillery is very dangerous for the M4 45, although the good gun depression and decent mobility go a long way towards helping limit its exposure in combat.


Early Research

  • As stock, you should be able to equip the first engine upgrade, the radio, the 90mm F3 and/or the 105 mm Canon 13TR, as they were available on the ARL 44.
  • a) Research the suspension.
  • b) Skip researching the suspension and equip Enhanced Springs.
  • Research and equip the turret.
  • Research or just mount the 90mm DCA 45 (if previously researched from the ARL 44).
  • Research the engine(s).
  • Finally, research the radio if you hadn't previously done so.
  • Go from there.


Suggested Equipment


Large-caliber Tank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Improved Ventilation Class 3Camouflage Net Binocular Telescope 


Gallery

Historical Info

Despite having one of the largest tank forces in the world (second only to the USSR), the end of World War II saw French Army left with no modern heavy tanks comparable to those of Germany, the other major Allied powers, or the USSR. The most modern and capable tank available was the ARL 44, which had been developed secretly during the German occupation, but it was realized that the design itself was obsolete and could hardly be compared to contemporary heavy tanks. Thus, in March 1945, the French industry was invited to submit proposals for a modern heavy tank. One of the companies to submit a proposal was AMX (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux) with the Projet 141 (Project 141), which proposed to build a heavy tank armed with the same 90 mm DCA 45 as the ARL 44, known as the M 4.

The M 4 externally resembled the famous German Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. B (better known as the "King Tiger") heavy tank, but in order to limit the weight to the desired 30 metric tonnes, the M4 was considerably smaller, and had a maximum armor thickness of just 30 mm. The French engineers also elected to copy the overlapping road wheels that characterized German tanks designs of the latter half of the war, even though the principal motivation behind the Germans using this was because of the shortage of high-quality rubber. This required large road wheels to lower tire tension, and the overlapping design helped better distribute the weight of the tank. France had no such problems, thus making this feature superfluous, in addition to being quite maintenance-heavy. Part of the M4 project was also to study the feasibility of using leaf or coil springs instead of a modern torsion bar suspension in order to achieve a lower vehicle height (by 10 cm).

The French Army ordered two M 4 prototypes, but quickly decided that 30 mm of armor was unacceptably thin for a modern tank. In response, the armor thickness was increased. Eventually, it was decided that a new oscillating turret designed by FAMH would be fitted instead of the originally-proposed welded conventional turret, and the first prototype was delivered under the designation AMX 50.

The AMX M4 ingame depicts the originally-proposed M 4 tank. No prototypes under the original M 4 specification were ever produced.


Historical Gallery

Sources and External Links

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