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2.300  Gold Kosten
380380 HP Struktur
22.38/24.3822.38/24.38 t Höchstgewicht
Besatzung
  1. Kommandant
  2. Richtschütze
  3. Fahrer
  4. Ladeschütze (Funker)
Mobilität
300300 hp Motorleistung
50/14 km/h Höchstgeschwindigkeit
4848 deg/s Wendegeschwindigkeit
13.413.4 hp/t Leistungsgewicht
YesYes Pivot
Panzerung
60/30/50 mm Wannenpanzerung
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160/160/280160/160/280 HP Schaden
119/161/43119/161/43 mm Durchschlag



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13.33 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4.5 s
50% Crew: 5.57 s
75% Crew: 4.87 s
100% Crew: 4.31 s
Rammer: 3.88 s
Vents: 4.22 s
Both: 3.79 s
Both and BiA: 3.71 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.56 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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13.33 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4.5 s
50% Crew: 5.57 s
75% Crew: 4.87 s
100% Crew: 4.31 s
Rammer: 3.88 s
Vents: 4.22 s
Both: 3.79 s
Both and BiA: 3.71 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.56 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Feuerrate






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2132.8

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (280 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 3732.4
50% Crew: 3012.8
75% Crew: 3449.6
100% Crew: 3892
100% Crew
Vents: 3978.8
Rammer: 4323.2
Both: 4421.2
Both and BiA: 4519.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4715.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 4012.4
50% Crew: 3292.8
75% Crew: 3729.6
100% Crew: 4172
100% Crew
Rammer: 4603.2
Vents: 4258.8
Both: 4701.2
Both and BiA: 4799.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4995.2

See here, here, or here for more information.






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2132.8

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (160 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2132.8
50% Crew: 1721.6
75% Crew: 1971.2
100% Crew: 2224
100% Crew
Vents: 2273.6
Rammer: 2470.4
Both: 2526.4
Both and BiA: 2582.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2694.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2292.8
50% Crew: 1881.6
75% Crew: 2131.2
100% Crew: 2384
100% Crew
Rammer: 2630.4
Vents: 2433.6
Both: 2686.4
Both and BiA: 2742.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2854.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (280 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 3732.4
50% Crew: 3012.8
75% Crew: 3449.6
100% Crew: 3892
100% Crew
Vents: 3978.8
Rammer: 4323.2
Both: 4421.2
Both and BiA: 4519.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4715.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 4012.4
50% Crew: 3292.8
75% Crew: 3729.6
100% Crew: 4172
100% Crew
Rammer: 4603.2
Vents: 4258.8
Both: 4701.2
Both and BiA: 4799.2
Both and Max Crew %: 4995.2

See here, here, or here for more information.
Schaden pro Minute


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0.42 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.52 m
With 75% Crew: 0.454 m
With 100% Crew: 0.403 m
With BiA: 0.394 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.385 m
Maximum possible: 0.369 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.42 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.52 m
With 75% Crew: 0.454 m
With 100% Crew: 0.403 m
With BiA: 0.394 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.385 m
Maximum possible: 0.369 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Einzielzeit
4444 deg/s Gun Wendegeschwindigkeit
20° Waffenwinkel
-5°/+25°-5°/+25° Richtwinkel
5858 rounds Munitionskapazität
Allgemein
2020 % Brandwahrscheinlichkeit






330 m 

With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






330 m 

With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
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525 m 

With 50% Crew: 423.8 m
With 75% Crew: 485.4 m
With 100% Crew: 547.5 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 630 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 577.5 m
Maximum possible: 788.1 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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525 m 

With 50% Crew: 423.8 m
With 75% Crew: 485.4 m
With 100% Crew: 547.5 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 630 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 577.5 m
Maximum possible: 788.1 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Funkreichweite
SU-85I


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Der SU-85I ist ein sowjetischer premium Jagdpanzer der Stufe 5.

Neben der Schaffung der SU-76I wurden Versuche unternommen, ein 85-mm-Geschütz in erbeutete deutsche Pz.Kpfw. III einzubauen. Da Fahrzeug wurde weder in Serie gefertigt, noch in Dienst gestellt.

The SU-85I was first released during patch 0.9.0 for purchase in the Premium Shop and became available for purchase in the in game shop in patch 0.9.2

This tank was removed from sale in the gift shop and to buy for gold via the in game tech tree on the 8/6/15 Removal of Premium Tanks From Shop as part of the WG retirement plan.

Module / Verfügbare Zubehörteile und Verbrauchsgegenstände

Modules

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Geschütze

Stufe Geschütz Durchschlag
(mm)
Schaden
(HP)
Feuerrate
(Schuss/min)
Genauigkeit
(m/100m)
Einzielzeit
(s)
Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

VI 85 mm D-5S-85A 119/161/43 160/160/280 13.33 0.42 2.3 1215 81930

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Motoren

Stufe Motor Leistung
(hp)
Brandwahrscheinlichkeit
(%)
Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

IV Maybach HL 120 TRM 300 20 920 10000

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Suspensions

Stufe Ketten Höchstgewicht
(t)
Wendegeschwindigkeit
(Grad/s)
Rmin Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

VI SU-85I 24.38 48 0 7000 8740

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Radios

Stufe Funkgerät Funkreichweite
(m)
Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

VIII 9RM 525 30 24240


Verfügbare Zubehörteile

Mittlere Splitterschutzbeschichtung Tarnnetz Entspiegelte Optik Experimentelle Optik Verschleißfester Richtantrieb Lüftungssystem Innovatives Ladesystem Erweiterte Ersatzteilkiste Verbesserter Waffenrichtantrieb Verbesserte Drehstabfederung 3-t-Klasse „Zyklon“-Luftfilter Zusätzliche Laufpolster Verbesserte Lüftung Klasse 2 Ansetzer für Panzergeschütze mittleren Kalibers Scherenfernrohr Werkzeugkiste „Nasses“ Munitionslager Klasse 1 

Verfügbare Verbrauchsgegenstände

Automatisches Feuerlöschsystem Natürliche Deckung Kalibrierte Optik Visierfeinabgleich Erfahrene Brandbekämpfer Handfeuerlöscher Lüftungsreinigung Großer Erste-Hilfe-Kasten Große Ersatzteilkiste Die Pflicht zuerst Leih-und-Pachtgesetz-Öl Granatensortierer Ordentliches Munitionslager Aufs Ziel fokussiert Zusatzrationen Entfernter Drehzahlbegrenzer Volle Konzentration Kleiner Erste-Hilfe-Kasten Kleine Ersatzteilkiste Kunstvolles Schalten Schnappschuss Penible Wartung Kampflinie 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Gun with good alpha and the best DPM of tier 5 TD's (2132.8 DPM)
  • Big and heavily armored gun mantlet
  • Second best HP for a tier 5 TD
  • Above average view range (20m more than StuG or AT 2 and 50m more than SU-85)
  • Good camouflage values, best camouflage of Tier V TD's when firing the gun



Cons:


  • Overall poor armor and very tall.
  • Sub-par gun arc and depression
  • Besides good plain mobility, it has bad power/wt ratio struggling to climb hills
  • Rather bad gun handling, long aiming time and bad accuracy


Performance

This tank has a decent gun for its tier, having the best DPM of all tier V TD's. However, it is not terribly accurate. It should be played like a support tank, although sniping is not impossible. The penetration of the gun with AP ammo is good enough to pen almost all tanks in tier 5 and 6, with exception of some heavys and TDs. Because the gun is not reliable enough to fire at weakspots from long distances, it is advised to carry some APCR to deal with heavy armored tanks.

While the armor is decent for its tier, it will be penetrated by almost anything the tank is matched against. It's important to make use of good camouflage to stay hidden, take shots at unaware enemies, then use mobility to move to a new location or behind cover. Remember that the tank has excellent maneuverability, and can therefore relocate very quickly and effectively.

Because of the weak armor and overall low survivability, Sixth Sense will help you to know when you are spotted. Since this is a premium vehicle, you can train any existing Soviet TD crew much more efficiently due to the modifiers.


Early Research

None required, this is a premium tank.


Suggested Equipment


Coated Optics Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Galerie

Historical Info

The SU-85I was a medium tank destroyer developed by Lew S. Trojanow on the Panzer III during the early war as a response to the new well armored German tanks. The project was halted due to a shortage of D-5S-85 guns and the uncertainty of whether or not more Panzer III hulls would be available. Work on the SU-85I was given up once it was decided there was no more need to convert captured German vehicles.



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