T25 AT
T25 AT
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[Client Values; Actual values in
1,327,000  Cost |
| 840168 HP Hit Points |
| 38.74/39.2113.6/43.8 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator)
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader
| 560704 hp Engine Power |
| 56/15 km/h Speed Limit |
| 3030 deg/s Traverse |
| 14.4651.76 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
| YesYes Pivot |
| // mm Hull Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
255/4400/255
1000/4800/680 Shell Cost |
| 240/240/320320/320/420 HP Damage |
| 160/243/45198/245/53 mm Penetration |
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8.22 r/m ▲
6.59 r/m Standard Gun ▲ Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
|
1972.8 ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲
2108.8 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲ Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
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0.35 m ▲
0.38 m With 50% Crew: 0.434 m ▲ Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.471 m |
| 1.7 s 1.7 s Aim time |
| 2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
| 20° Gun Arc |
| -10°/+20°-10°/+20° Elevation Arc |
| 5640 rounds Ammo Capacity |
| 2020 % Chance of Fire |
| 350 m 350 m View Range |
| 395 m 615 m Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 19.7%
- When Moving: 12%
- When Firing: 6%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 1.15
- On Medium Ground: 1.34
- On Soft Ground: 2.21
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.12
- Shot Recoil: 3.84
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.22
- Turning: 0.22
With 100% Crew
VII
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The T25 AT is an American tier 7 tank destroyer.
The vehicle was developed based on the T23 tank, but the work on the project was discontinued at the concept exploration stage. The Command of the United States Army did not like the electric transmission and poor gun traverse limits.
When stock, the 90 mm AT Gun M3 is adequate for its tier and the speed is able to get you where you need to go in short time. When fully upgraded, the T25 AT is a fantastic tank destroyer to play, being very fast, and armed with the 105 mm AT Gun T5E1, it can provide fire support wherever needed. The T25 AT's armor is quite lacking, but the mantlet is not small and can bounce higher tier shells. Because of its lack of armor and hitpoints, it is recommended that you avoid direct firefights with higher tier tanks. One thing that is impressive on this tank destroyer is its deep gun depression, which can come in handy in certain situations. The relative rarity of the T25 AT, compared to similar vehicles like the Jagdpanther, is most likely due to its position in the Tech tree. Many players who wish to play the turretless American TDs grind the other, more popular, American TD line to the T28 Prototype and go from there to the T28. (At least prior to 1.9 when "simplification" of the tech trees took away that option.)
The T25 AT leads to the T28.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Guns
| Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price (  )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VII | 90 mm AT Gun M3 | 160/243/45 | 240/240/320 | 8.22 | 0.35 | 1.7 | 2050 | 81000 | |
| VIII | 90 mm AT Gun T15E2 | 170/258/45 | 240/240/320 | 8.22 | 0.35 | 1.7 | 2050 | 111900 | |
| VIII | 105 mm AT Gun T5E1 | 198/245/53 | 320/320/420 | 6.59 | 0.38 | 1.7 | 2400 | 118000 |
Engines
| Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VII | Ford GAN | 560 | 20 | 569 | 37200 | |
| VIII | Continental AV-1790-1 | 704 | 20 | 569 | 45000 |
Suspensions
| Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VI | T25T1 | 39.21 | 30 | 0 | 10200 | 15000 | |
| VIII | T25T2 | 43.8 | 30 | 0 | 10200 | 32720 |
Radios
| Tier | Radio | Signal Range (m) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| IX | SCR 506 | 615 | 110 | 33600 | |
| VI | SCR 508 | 395 | 100 | 21600 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Very mobile, top speed, acceleration and traverse are all outstanding, on par with same tier medium tanks
- Good penetration, alpha, aiming time, RoF and DPM on top gun
- Good gun handling on all guns, good gun arc and deep gun depression, favorable gun placement
- Good camouflage value, between Su-122-44 and Jagdpanther
- Easier stock grind than the T25/2
Cons:
- The slope and the thickness of the frontal armor is not enough to bounce same-tier shells when on level ground, and littered
- Poor side and rear armor
- Mediocre viewrange (350 m); medium and light tanks can sometimes outspot you
- Expensive shell cost; poor gameplay can hurt your currency
- Generally outclassed by Jagdpanther, being only marginally faster
Performance
If you have played the Jagdpanther, you will find they play fairly similarly. The T25AT is a tank that can do several jobs decently well, but is not truly a master of any.
The tank is great for locating to an excellent spot in which is can provide sniper support, as it's 105mm has both good damage and penetration (though aiming for the sides of tanks is still highly recommended). But with tanks such as the Hellcat in similar MM, those spots may get taken before you get there, forcing you to move on to possibly less-then optimal locations.
The tank is a good urban brawler and flank tank. It's speed and acceleration, combined with its high maneuverability allow it to quickly relocate behind the enemy to attack when their attention is drawn to the heavies and mediums in front of them. Again, though it maybe good at this, other lighter tanks, especially with turrets are better in this respect as they don't need to traverse the entire corner to shoot, thus reducing the opening the enemy has to fire.
Due to it's very nice gun depression, the tank makes an excellent hill shooter. On maps defined by their hilly terrain that can be driven up and shot over, the T25AT (thanks in part to it's powerful engine) has no problem climbing these hills to quickly pop over and shoot with it's gun aimed full down. Once more, while the tank does well in this regard, it unfortunately means exposing itself to enemy fire that if the driver isn't quick enough, and with it's lack of armour, can mean being severely damaged.
The tank can be an excellent end game hunter and scout. Whether the enemy team has only its SPGs left, or has a few speedy and pesky lights and mediums, either scooting around or pushing a base cap, the T25AT can hold its own very well in terms of speed as the driver tries to find them and mark their locations known to their team, and with firepower that outshines many mediums and lights at it's tier, can also quickly finish them off. But again, with speedier light tanks and mediums with potentially better armour should a firefight ensue, there sits the potential for the tank to be out-maneuvered and over run, there are again better choices that can be had.
The T25AT's combination of speed, gun depression, firepower and maneuverability make it a tank that shouldn't be taken lightly by people facing off against one, yet it's lack of armour and turret mean that it's also a tank that can be exposed to great risk and can easily be exploited by those attacking it.
Players must be aware of the tank's limitations so as to play the tank to its fullest -a well played T25AT can easily do upwards of 1800+ damage a match- but at the same time not let the limitations hold them back from fully utilizing its strengths to their advantages. The lack of a turret -usually the biggest complaint lodged against the T25AT- should not deter anyone from picking one up and playing it, as the T25AT is one the most rewarding and fun tanks in the game.
N.B. The 105 mm gun is also used on the T28 Prototype. Unlocking it on the T25 AT will make the grind on the T28 Prototype much easier.
Early Research
- Radio carries over from the Jackson.
- Get the 105mm as fast as you can.
- Get the upgraded suspension, as it is necessary to mount any equipment weighing more than 100kg.
- Finish by researching the AV-1790-1 engine.
Alternatively, if you wish to use equipment (gun rammer/binoculars and camouflage net) at all times:
- Start by researching the T15E2 gun. This will need to be researched before the 105 can be researched. It will help you get to the next upgrades a little easier.
- Get the upgraded suspension, as it will be necessary to equip the 105mm with equipment of more than 100kg.
- Get the 105mm.
- Finish by researching the engine.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
In March 1943 a new turret was fitted with a 90 mm AA gun and put onto a T23 model.
The Army Service Forces placed an order for 50 of these tanks.1 10 of these were to be T26s. The first T25s were completed until early 1944.
A request for 8,000 T25s and T26s with 75 mm and 76 mm guns was rejected.
Development
The T23 medium tank was a development of the T20 medium tank, with a Ford GAN V8 engine with electric transmission. The T20 medium tank would eventually develop into the M26 Pershing.
The T25 tank destroyer comes from 1943 models of a T23 medium tank chassis mounting a modified version of a 90 mm AA gun which eventually became the M3 90 mm gun.
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
* The in-game model appears different from the wooden model, presumably to make the chassis and suspension more resemble the T23 rather than the T1/M6 that it does in the wooden model.
- The wooden model upon which the T25 AT is based was never named. The name T23 AT would have been more appropriate, as the vehicle is based on the T23 medium tank rather than the (American) T 25.
- The wooden model is described as having been fitted with a 90mm gun. There are no known plans to have mounted the 105mm gun on it.
