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AMX M4 mle. 51

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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3,580,000  Credits Cost
1800460 HP Hit Points
71.65/7437.08/78 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Driver
  3. Gunner
  4. Loader
  5. Radio Operator
Mobility
7501100 hp Engine Power
40/15 km/h Speed Limit
2426 deg/s Traverse
10.4729.67 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
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250/80/60300/80/40 mm Turret Armor
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Shell Cost
400/400/515470/470/610 HP Damage
257/315/65242/270/64 mm Penetration



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5.13 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 11.7 s
50% Crew: 14.49 s
75% Crew: 12.66 s
100% Crew: 11.22 s
Rammer: 10.1 s
Vents: 10.97 s
Both: 9.88 s
Both and BiA: 9.66 s
Both and Max Crew %: 9.26 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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4.51 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 13.3 s
50% Crew: 16.48 s
75% Crew: 14.39 s
100% Crew: 12.75 s
Rammer: 11.48 s
Vents: 12.47 s
Both: 11.22 s
Both and BiA: 10.98 s
Both and Max Crew %: 10.52 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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2052

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2052
50% Crew: 1656
75% Crew: 1896
100% Crew: 2140
100% Crew
Vents: 2188
Rammer: 2376
Both: 2432
Both and BiA: 2484
Both and Max Crew %: 2592

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2452
50% Crew: 2056
75% Crew: 2296
100% Crew: 2540
100% Crew
Rammer: 2776
Vents: 2588
Both: 2832
Both and BiA: 2884
Both and Max Crew %: 2992

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2052
50% Crew: 1656
75% Crew: 1896
100% Crew: 2140
100% Crew
Vents: 2188
Rammer: 2376
Both: 2432
Both and BiA: 2484
Both and Max Crew %: 2592

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2452
50% Crew: 2056
75% Crew: 2296
100% Crew: 2540
100% Crew
Rammer: 2776
Vents: 2588
Both: 2832
Both and BiA: 2884
Both and Max Crew %: 2992

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2641.95
50% Crew: 2132.1
75% Crew: 2441.1
100% Crew: 2755.25
100% Crew
Vents: 2817.05
Rammer: 3059.1
Both: 3131.2
Both and BiA: 3198.15
Both and Max Crew %: 3337.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3156.95
50% Crew: 2647.1
75% Crew: 2956.1
100% Crew: 3270.25
100% Crew
Rammer: 3574.1
Vents: 3332.05
Both: 3646.2
Both and BiA: 3713.15
Both and Max Crew %: 3852.2

See here, here, or here for more information.






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2119.7

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (470 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2119.7
50% Crew: 1710.8
75% Crew: 1959.9
100% Crew: 2209
100% Crew
Vents: 2260.7
Rammer: 2453.4
Both: 2509.8
Both and BiA: 2566.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2674.3

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2589.7
50% Crew: 2180.8
75% Crew: 2429.9
100% Crew: 2679
100% Crew
Rammer: 2923.4
Vents: 2730.7
Both: 2979.8
Both and BiA: 3036.2
Both and Max Crew %: 3144.3

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (470 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2119.7
50% Crew: 1710.8
75% Crew: 1959.9
100% Crew: 2209
100% Crew
Vents: 2260.7
Rammer: 2453.4
Both: 2509.8
Both and BiA: 2566.2
Both and Max Crew %: 2674.3

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2589.7
50% Crew: 2180.8
75% Crew: 2429.9
100% Crew: 2679
100% Crew
Rammer: 2923.4
Vents: 2730.7
Both: 2979.8
Both and BiA: 3036.2
Both and Max Crew %: 3144.3

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (610 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2751.1
50% Crew: 2220.4
75% Crew: 2543.7
100% Crew: 2867
100% Crew
Vents: 2934.1
Rammer: 3184.2
Both: 3257.4
Both and BiA: 3330.6
Both and Max Crew %: 3470.9

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3361.1
50% Crew: 2830.4
75% Crew: 3153.7
100% Crew: 3477
100% Crew
Rammer: 3794.2
Vents: 3544.1
Both: 3867.4
Both and BiA: 3940.6
Both and Max Crew %: 4080.9

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.35 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.434 m
With 75% Crew: 0.379 m
With 100% Crew: 0.336 m
With BiA: 0.328 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.321 m
Maximum possible: 0.308 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
2628 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-8°/+13°-8°/+15° Elevation Arc
4030 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






370 m 

With 50% Crew: 290.7 m
With 75% Crew: 330.4 m
With 100% Crew: 370 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 388.7 m
With Coated Optics: 407 m
With Binocular Telescope: 462.5 m
Maximum possible: 529.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 605.4 m
With 75% Crew: 693.4 m
With 100% Crew: 782.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1125.9 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


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The AMX M4 mle. 51 is a French tier 9 heavy tank.

The Project 141 was a variant of the AMX M4 heavy tank with reinforced front armor. Development started in November 1949, but the vehicle was never built. The project also included many calculations for different hulls on a similar chassis.

The AMX M4 mle. 51 leads to the AMX M4 mle. 54.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X 127 mm/54 Model 1948 242/270/64 470/470/610 4.51 0.36 2.3 4000 336000
X 120 mm D. 1203 A 257/315/65 400/400/515 5.36 0.34 2 3580 330000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII Maybach HL 230 P45F 750 20 750 55000
IX Maybach HL 295 850 20 750 78000
IX Maybach HL 295 à injection d'essence 1100 20 1200 86000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII AMX M4 mle. 51 74 24 B/2 13000 32000
IX AMX M4 mle. 52 78 26 B/2 13000 67000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 1 Vertical Stabilizer Class 1 Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 1 Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 1 Improved Hardening Class 1 Additional Grousers Class 1 Modified Configuration Class 1 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 1 Improved Aiming Class 1 Improved Ventilation Class 1 Binocular Telescope Class 1 Gun Rammer Class 1 Turbocharger Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Strong UFP, lower plate and (especially) turret front protection; turret is proof against all but the highest penetrating guns

- Good handling and accuracy on both guns

- Very mobile for an heavy, reaches top speed with ease unlike the AMX 65t

- Has 8° of gun depression and decent height

- Respectable weight coupled with high mobility can lead to decent amount of ramming damage

- Easy and enjoyable grind.


Cons:

- Cupolas are small, but still vulnerable

- Rather weak shoulders and very thin sides prevent effective side-scraping and are prone to flanking

- Horribly oversized, not very easy to conceal when needed

- High penetrating APCR rounds can pen your mantlet, and 330+ pen ammo in general can pen you quite often frontally

- Limited penetration and slow shell velocity on 127mm gun


Performance

This tank is used best as a support vehicle with other heavies. When supporting, best position for this tank is behind cover or hills, peeking out (you have a good gun depression). 120mm gun is considered by most to be a more reliable choice overall for this role due to higher DPM, pen and better accuracy. With 120mm gun, you can even snipe when you need to.

It is best to stay around other heavy tanks whenever possible - you serve not only to act as a support, but you also need it to prevent flanking. Not being flanked is paramount to stay alive. Never go anywhere alone in this tank, whenever possible.

You can also play as a brawler, but then it is better to get a 127mm gun with higher alpha for peek-a-boo tactics if you have a chance to trade favourably. This will only work on city maps and with good cover - and since you are a fairly large target, it is sometimes hard to hide completely. Note, however, that you will mostly have to use premium ammo on 127mm gun, as default one has very low pen for this tier.

This tank has very good armor on entire front, except 2 small cupolas and the narrow horizontal section between upper and lower plate. Cheeks are very tough from the front, but become a huge weakspot when angled. NEVER angle this tank for this very reason: sides and cheeks become prominent when doing so. Always try to show only the front to the enemy.

Mobility is excellent, especially for a heavy tank, and even more so when compared to AMX 65t before it. Accelerates very quickly, reaches top speed of 40 km/h on flat ground quite easily, and even climbs well. With good skills, it even turns acceptably well. It is one of the best tanks in that regard among "true" heavy tanks (meaning: not counting heaviums).

Overall, this tank is very similar to the Conqueror in most aspects (when playing with 120mm gun). AMX is more mobile and has a much smaller lower plate (with quite a bit more armor on it), while Conqueror has 2 extra degrees of gun depression and can afford to angle the tank and sidescrape if required.


Early Research

  • You should already have last engine and radio, mount them immediately
  • Research 2nd turret as a priority: it has better armor, increased view range, better dpm, and smaller weakspots (cupolas)
  • Upgrade tracks (they can carry everything, including the 2nd cupola and 3 pieces of equipment, but not the last gun)
  • Get the final gun if you like to play more as a brawler, otherwise you can skip it or research just to elite the vehicle


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationTank Gun Rammer Vertical Stabilizer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Gallery

Historical Info

The FAHM turret (the turret from AMX 65t), was considered to be mounted on one of the up-armored models of the AMX M4 1949, but a prototype was never built. This model appears in-game as the tank's stock configuration. However, the TCB turret (the top turret in-game) was never considered to be mounted on any AMX M4 hull, since it was developed years after the AMX M4 project evolved into AMX 50. The top configuration is thus fictional and never existed.


See the AMX M4 mle. 45 and the AMX M4 mle. 49 history sections for more information on the AMX M4 development history. The cast FAMH turret, first proposed on the AMX 65T tank destroyer, was also considered for use on the AMX M4 model 1949.

The TCB turret was developed by the FAMH company (Forges et Aciéries de la Marine et d'Homécourt). Specifications on this turret are unknown, but it would have had a rangefinder, no auto-loader, and most likely thicker armor than the AMX 50's standard oscillating turret. This was intended to be an alternative to the AMX 50 Surbaissé's TOB oscillating turret, but was never built.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

The AMX M4 51 in it's stock configuration is heavily based on an alternative variant of AMX M4 1949, with uparmored hull and FAHM turret. However, the top configuration is fictional, as the TCB turret was only intended to be used on the Surbaissé hull, or better known as the AMX 50 B. In addition, the designation "AMX M4 51" is fictional, since by then the AMX M4 project already evolved into AMX 50 project.
  • The armor thickness of the both the TCB and FAMH turrets is unknown and was most likely made-up by WG for balance purposes.
  • The 127 mm/54 Model 1948 was a naval gun, and there are no known plans or proposals to ever use it as a tank gun.


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