Schwarzpanzer 58

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  Schwarzpanzer 58

Germany | Medium Tank | Tier VIII

Battle Tier

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7,800   Cost

1350270 HP Hit Points

35.1/4020.45/40 t Weight Limit

Crew

1. Commander (Radio Operator)
2. Gunner
3. Driver
4. Loader

Mobility

600600 hp Engine Power

50/20 km/h Speed Limit

4545 deg/s Traverse

17.0929.34 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio

YesYes Pivot

Armor

// mm Hull Armor

120/65/40120/65/40 mm Turret Armor

Armament

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300/4400/255 300/4400/255 Shell Cost

250/250/330250/250/330 HP Damage

212/259/90212/259/90 mm Penetration

| |}} | |}} 7.5 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 8 s 50% Crew: 9.91 s 75% Crew: 8.65 s 100% Crew: 7.67 s Rammer: 6.9 s Vents: 7.5 s Both: 6.75 s Both and BiA: 6.6 s Both and Max Crew %: 6.33 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. | |}} | |}} 7.5 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 8 s 50% Crew: 9.91 s 75% Crew: 8.65 s 100% Crew: 7.67 s Rammer: 6.9 s Vents: 7.5 s Both: 6.75 s Both and BiA: 6.6 s Both and Max Crew %: 6.33 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. Rate of Fire

| |}} | |}} 1875 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (250 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1875 50% Crew: 1512.5 75% Crew: 1732.5 100% Crew: 1955 100% Crew Vents: 2000 Rammer: 2172.5 Both: 2220 Both and BiA: 2270 Both and Max Crew %: 2367.5 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2125 50% Crew: 1762.5 75% Crew: 1982.5 100% Crew: 2205 100% Crew Rammer: 2422.5 Vents: 2250 Both: 2470 Both and BiA: 2520 Both and Max Crew %: 2617.5 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (250 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1875 50% Crew: 1512.5 75% Crew: 1732.5 100% Crew: 1955 100% Crew Vents: 2000 Rammer: 2172.5 Both: 2220 Both and BiA: 2270 Both and Max Crew %: 2367.5 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2125 50% Crew: 1762.5 75% Crew: 1982.5 100% Crew: 2205 100% Crew Rammer: 2422.5 Vents: 2250 Both: 2470 Both and BiA: 2520 Both and Max Crew %: 2617.5 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (330 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2475 50% Crew: 1996.5 75% Crew: 2286.9 100% Crew: 2580.6 100% Crew Vents: 2640 Rammer: 2867.7 Both: 2930.4 Both and BiA: 2996.4 Both and Max Crew %: 3125.1 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2805 50% Crew: 2326.5 75% Crew: 2616.9 100% Crew: 2910.6 100% Crew Rammer: 3197.7 Vents: 2970 Both: 3260.4 Both and BiA: 3326.4 Both and Max Crew %: 3455.1 See here, here, or here for more information. | |}} | |}} 1875 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (250 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1875 50% Crew: 1512.5 75% Crew: 1732.5 100% Crew: 1955 100% Crew Vents: 2000 Rammer: 2172.5 Both: 2220 Both and BiA: 2270 Both and Max Crew %: 2367.5 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2125 50% Crew: 1762.5 75% Crew: 1982.5 100% Crew: 2205 100% Crew Rammer: 2422.5 Vents: 2250 Both: 2470 Both and BiA: 2520 Both and Max Crew %: 2617.5 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (250 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1875 50% Crew: 1512.5 75% Crew: 1732.5 100% Crew: 1955 100% Crew Vents: 2000 Rammer: 2172.5 Both: 2220 Both and BiA: 2270 Both and Max Crew %: 2367.5 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2125 50% Crew: 1762.5 75% Crew: 1982.5 100% Crew: 2205 100% Crew Rammer: 2422.5 Vents: 2250 Both: 2470 Both and BiA: 2520 Both and Max Crew %: 2617.5 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (330 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2475 50% Crew: 1996.5 75% Crew: 2286.9 100% Crew: 2580.6 100% Crew Vents: 2640 Rammer: 2867.7 Both: 2930.4 Both and BiA: 2996.4 Both and Max Crew %: 3125.1 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2805 50% Crew: 2326.5 75% Crew: 2616.9 100% Crew: 2910.6 100% Crew Rammer: 3197.7 Vents: 2970 Both: 3260.4 Both and BiA: 3326.4 Both and Max Crew %: 3455.1 See here, here, or here for more information. Damage Per Minute

| |}} 0.34 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.421 m With 75% Crew: 0.368 m With 100% Crew: 0.326 m With BiA: 0.319 m With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m Maximum possible: 0.299 m For more details, see Crew | |}} 0.34 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.421 m With 75% Crew: 0.368 m With 100% Crew: 0.326 m With BiA: 0.319 m With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m Maximum possible: 0.299 m For more details, see Crew Accuracy

| |}} 2.3 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 2.849 s With 75% Crew: 2.488 s With 100% Crew: 2.205 s With GLD: 2.005 s With BiA: 2.157 s With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s With both and GLD: 1.918 s Maximum possible: 1.839 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment | |}} 2.3 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 2.849 s With 75% Crew: 2.488 s With 100% Crew: 2.205 s With GLD: 2.005 s With BiA: 2.157 s With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s With both and GLD: 1.918 s Maximum possible: 1.839 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment Aim time

3636 deg/s Turret Traverse

360° Gun Arc

-10°/+25°-10°/+25° Elevation Arc

4848 rounds Ammo Capacity

General

1212 % Chance of Fire

390 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 306.4 m With 75% Crew: 348.2 m With 100% Crew: 390 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m With Coated Optics: 429 m With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m Maximum possible: 558.3 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment 390 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 306.4 m With 75% Crew: 348.2 m With 100% Crew: 390 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m With Coated Optics: 429 m With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m Maximum possible: 558.3 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment View Range

| |}} 570 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 447.8 m With 75% Crew: 509 m With 100% Crew: 570 m With 100% Signal Boost: 684 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 627 m Maximum possible: 820.2 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment | |}} 570 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 447.8 m With 75% Crew: 509 m With 100% Crew: 570 m With 100% Signal Boost: 684 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 627 m Maximum possible: 820.2 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment Signal Range

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Schwarzpanzer 58

VIII

7800

The Schwarzpanzer 58 is a German tier 8 premium medium tank.

Swiss project for a medium tank with improved combat characteristics and the ability to fight in mountainous terrain, developed in 1953. The plans called for using the gun from the British Centurion tank. A total of two prototypes and ten vehicles were produced, but the vehicle never saw mass production.

Swiss project for a medium tank with improved combat characteristics and ability to fight in mountainous terrain, developed in 1958. The plans called for using the gun from the British Centurion tank. A total of two prototypes and ten vehicles were produced, but the vehicle never saw mass production.

This tank is identical to the Panzer 58 Mutz except the unique paintjob.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

Guns

Tier	Gun	Penetration (mm)	Damage (HP)	Rate of fire (rounds/minute)	Dispersion (m/100m)	Aiming time (s)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VIII	9 cm Kanone	212/259/90	250/250/330	7.5	0.34	2.3		1650	118000

Engines

Tier	Engine	Engine Power (hp)	Chance of Fire on Impact (%)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VIII	MB 837 Ea 600	600	12		1400	52500

Suspensions

Tier	Suspension	Load Limit (т)	Traverse Speed (gr/sec)	Rmin		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VIII	Panzer 58	40	45	0		8000	30000

Radios

Tier	Radio	Signal Range (m)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VIII	Kdo. Funkstation SE 407	570		123	25000

Compatible Equipment

                       

Compatible Consumables

                      

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

• High penetration with values that are on par with the gun on the AMX CDC
• Decent accuracy
• Decent mobility and excellent traverse speed
• High shell-velocity, excellent for sniping

Cons:

• Low HP pool
• Lower DPM than most of the mediums at tier 8
• Mediocre turret armor, large and easily penetrated from the front
• Horrible hull armor, vulnerable even to Tier VI Mediums

Performance

The Panzer 58 Mutz is a Swiss tank (though placed in the German tech-tree) that plays very similar to other Tier VIII support mediums like the Indien-Panzer or the Centurion Mk. I. Using what is essentially the Indien-Panzer's 9cm gun, the Panzer 58 Mutz should be played as such; picking off targets from long range, using terrain as cover, and giving fire support where it is needed. The accurate and high-penetrating 9cm gun can hold its own even in Tier X matches, but a careful balance of AP and APCR ammo is needed as the Mutz can only carry 48 rounds. The Mutz is fairly mobile for a medium tank, but close-range brawls are far from recommended; the armor on this tank cannot take sustained amounts of punishment. Flanking heavier opponents is a viable tactic so long as backup is at hand.

There are some aspects to the Mutz that need specific attention. The turret, while rounded, offers a large profile and is poorly-armored. The gun-mantlet is small and unreliable for bouncing shots, while the hull is horribly lacking in armor. The highly sloped front of the tank does get a surprising number of ricochets. Beware of artillery and tanks with large-calibre guns. They are liable to take out huge chunks of your HP with HE rounds, if not kill you outright with one shot. These problems are offset by the Mutz's mobility and gun-depression. As with other support mediums, expose yourself only when needed and find cover as a matter of habit. The 9cm gun rewards players who know how to keep this tank alive and firing in any match it may see.

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