Grille

Grille

Germany | SPG | Tier V

Battle Tier

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Overview
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400,000   Cost

31563 HP Hit Points

11.39/11.77.3/14 t Weight Limit

Crew

1. Commander
2. Driver
3. Gunner
4. Loader (Radio Operator)

Mobility

130150 hp Engine Power

42/10 km/h Speed Limit

2224 deg/s Traverse

11.4120.55 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio

YesYes Pivot

Armor

// mm Hull Armor

Armament

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280/310/305 0/595/0 Shell Cost

350/450/300480/580/340 HP Damage

35/44/9838/48/154 mm Penetration

| |}} | |}} 3.75 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 16 s 50% Crew: 19.82 s 75% Crew: 17.31 s 100% Crew: 15.34 s Rammer: 13.81 s Vents: 15 s Both: 13.5 s Both and BiA: 13.21 s Both and Max Crew %: 12.66 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. | |}} | |}} 2.55 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 23.5 s 50% Crew: 29.11 s 75% Crew: 25.42 s 100% Crew: 22.53 s Rammer: 20.28 s Vents: 22.03 s Both: 19.83 s Both and BiA: 19.4 s Both and Max Crew %: 18.59 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. Rate of Fire

| |}} | |}} 1312.5 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (350 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1312.5 50% Crew: 1060.5 75% Crew: 1214.5 100% Crew: 1368.5 100% Crew Vents: 1400 Rammer: 1519 Both: 1554 Both and BiA: 1589 Both and Max Crew %: 1659 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1662.5 50% Crew: 1410.5 75% Crew: 1564.5 100% Crew: 1718.5 100% Crew Rammer: 1869 Vents: 1750 Both: 1904 Both and BiA: 1939 Both and Max Crew %: 2009 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (450 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1687.5 50% Crew: 1363.5 75% Crew: 1561.5 100% Crew: 1759.5 100% Crew Vents: 1800 Rammer: 1953 Both: 1998 Both and BiA: 2043 Both and Max Crew %: 2133 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2137.5 50% Crew: 1813.5 75% Crew: 2011.5 100% Crew: 2209.5 100% Crew Rammer: 2403 Vents: 2250 Both: 2448 Both and BiA: 2493 Both and Max Crew %: 2583 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (300 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1125 50% Crew: 909 75% Crew: 1041 100% Crew: 1173 100% Crew Vents: 1200 Rammer: 1302 Both: 1332 Both and BiA: 1362 Both and Max Crew %: 1422 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1425 50% Crew: 1209 75% Crew: 1341 100% Crew: 1473 100% Crew Rammer: 1602 Vents: 1500 Both: 1632 Both and BiA: 1662 Both and Max Crew %: 1722 See here, here, or here for more information. | |}} | |}} 1224 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (480 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1224 50% Crew: 988.8 75% Crew: 1132.8 100% Crew: 1276.8 100% Crew Vents: 1305.6 Rammer: 1420.8 Both: 1449.6 Both and BiA: 1483.2 Both and Max Crew %: 1545.6 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1704 50% Crew: 1468.8 75% Crew: 1612.8 100% Crew: 1756.8 100% Crew Rammer: 1900.8 Vents: 1785.6 Both: 1929.6 Both and BiA: 1963.2 Both and Max Crew %: 2025.6 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (580 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1479 50% Crew: 1194.8 75% Crew: 1368.8 100% Crew: 1542.8 100% Crew Vents: 1577.6 Rammer: 1716.8 Both: 1751.6 Both and BiA: 1792.2 Both and Max Crew %: 1867.6 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2059 50% Crew: 1774.8 75% Crew: 1948.8 100% Crew: 2122.8 100% Crew Rammer: 2296.8 Vents: 2157.6 Both: 2331.6 Both and BiA: 2372.2 Both and Max Crew %: 2447.6 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (340 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 867 50% Crew: 700.4 75% Crew: 802.4 100% Crew: 904.4 100% Crew Vents: 924.8 Rammer: 1006.4 Both: 1026.8 Both and BiA: 1050.6 Both and Max Crew %: 1094.8 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1207 50% Crew: 1040.4 75% Crew: 1142.4 100% Crew: 1244.4 100% Crew Rammer: 1346.4 Vents: 1264.8 Both: 1366.8 Both and BiA: 1390.6 Both and Max Crew %: 1434.8 See here, here, or here for more information. Damage Per Minute

| |}} 0.84 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 1.041 m With 75% Crew: 0.909 m With 100% Crew: 0.805 m With BiA: 0.788 m With BiA and Vents: 0.771 m Maximum possible: 0.739 m For more details, see Crew | |}} 0.78 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.966 m With 75% Crew: 0.844 m With 100% Crew: 0.748 m With BiA: 0.731 m With BiA and Vents: 0.716 m Maximum possible: 0.686 m For more details, see Crew Accuracy

| |}} 6.5 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 8.052 s With 75% Crew: 7.031 s With 100% Crew: 6.232 s With GLD: 5.666 s With BiA: 6.095 s With BiA and Vents: 5.963 s With both and GLD: 5.421 s Maximum possible: 5.196 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment | |}} 6 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 7.433 s With 75% Crew: 6.49 s With 100% Crew: 5.753 s With GLD: 5.23 s With BiA: 5.626 s With BiA and Vents: 5.504 s With both and GLD: 5.004 s Maximum possible: 4.796 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment Aim time

1616 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed

10° Gun Arc

-3°/+72°-3°/+72° Elevation Arc

5536 rounds Ammo Capacity

General

2020 % Chance of Fire

260 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 204.3 m With 75% Crew: 232.2 m With 100% Crew: 260 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m With Coated Optics: 286 m With Binocular Telescope: 325 m Maximum possible: 372.2 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment 260 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 204.3 m With 75% Crew: 232.2 m With 100% Crew: 260 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m With Coated Optics: 286 m With Binocular Telescope: 325 m Maximum possible: 372.2 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment View Range

| |}} 290 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 227.8 m With 75% Crew: 259 m With 100% Crew: 290 m With 100% Signal Boost: 348 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 319 m Maximum possible: 417.3 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment | |}} 710 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 557.8 m With 75% Crew: 634 m With 100% Crew: 710 m With 100% Signal Boost: 852 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 781 m Maximum possible: 1021.6 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment Signal Range

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StuG III Ausf. B

Grille

Hummel

V

400000

The Grille is a German tier 5 self-propelled gun.

German WWII self-propelled gun. Developed on the Czechoslovakian Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) chassis from 1943 through 1944. A total of 282 vehicles were manufactured.

An SPG with high damage potential, intended to hit a target hard. Many tank companies will often seek this SPG to complement their firepower due its impressive damage output.

The Grille has weak armor, is rather sluggish, and the stock gun only has crappy range, but once upgraded to the 15 cm sFH 13 L/17 gun, it gains a lot of firepower with the benefit of having an increased HE damage that can destroy or easily cripple any tank that it fires at.

The Grille leads to the Hummel.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

Guns

Tier	Gun	Penetration (mm)	Damage (HP)	Rate of fire (rounds/minute)	Dispersion (m/100m)	Aiming time (s)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
V	15 cm s.F.H. 13 L/17	38/48/154	480/580/340	2.55	0.78	6		1200	44920
III	15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/11	35/44/98	350/450/300	3.75	0.84	6.5		760	8880

Engines

Tier	Engine	Engine Power (hp)	Chance of Fire on Impact (%)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
III	Praga EPA	130	20		600	1250
IV	Praga EPA AC	150	20		600	9000

Suspensions

Tier	Suspension	Load Limit (т)	Traverse Speed (gr/sec)	Rmin		Weight (kg)	Price ()
IV	Grille	11.7	22	0		5000	3600
V	Grille verstärkteketten	14	24	0		5000	8600

Radios

Tier	Radio	Signal Range (m)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VI	FuG 7	415		70	8160
IX	FuG 12	710		150	43200
II	FuG 37	290		40	180

Compatible Equipment

              

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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

• Good alpha damage
• Reasonable accuracy
• Good splash damage and splash radius for a Tier 5 SPG
• High shell trajectory
• Good camouflage value

Cons:

• Short range (840m)
• Very sluggish muzzle velocity (slow shell speed)
• Low rate of fire
• Small gun traverse arc

Performance

The Grille starts off as a low damage SPG with high RoF (rate of fire). Getting the larger gun, however, changes its play style completely. Compared to other lower tier SPG's, the Grille is where you start to see a massive increase in alpha damage. Direct hits are lethal to light tanks, TD's, mediums, and other SPG's if you can only land them. Heavy tanks will also suffer greatly or die from a direct impact, often losing a large percentage of their health or all of their health as well as a module or two. Of course if you miss you won't do any damage better than 80 HP. The Grille does not reflect on the German SPG philosophy in terms of accuracy, but its still a good deal more accurate than other nations SPG´s.

The Grille's high damage can make it an effective TD or scout destroyer, though it lacks the traverse speed (turning speed) for close-quarters combat. Also, when taking shots from enemy tanks, the first module in the line of fire is the engine, and getting forced to stop due to engine damage is not uncommon, which combined with pathetic gun traversal arc means swift death.

If you transfer from Pz.Sfl. IVb Grille can be extremely frustrating before you learn to entirely change your play style. While Pz.Sfl. IVb is excellent against light tanks and lightweight TDs with its fast reload, fast aim, large traverse, short travel time, and relatively low damage, Grille is its exact opposite.

• First, change your targets: hitting a distant, fast-moving light tank becomes nearly impossible, while sluggish heavies that would shrug your rounds off so far receive devastating damage.
• You must learn to lock tracks and be patient while waiting for your target to stop, reappear or return into aim zone while another juicy morsel loiters just in the corner of your screen: aim times are long, and by the time you have your other target locked in, they will be on the move.
• Learn to prioritize on distant targets: small traverse angle means very narrow cone covered nearby; the field covered by your fire near the opposite end of the map is much larger;
• Let your allies handle dogfight with immediate threats that keep moving around, while you pick out all the distant campers. You can do more harm than good with your sluggish slugs in a rapid melee attack.
• Do not hesitate to request help from allies if you notice enemy scout approaching; your defensive capabilities against fast-moving enemies are pathetic. You're better off either picking out distant enemies or sitting still and quiet under camouflage net while allies kill the approaching scout.
• One of the steepest trajectories in the German artillery allows you reach enemies hidden behind obstacles they believe completely safe. Recheck old "hopeless" spots, because some of them are within your reach now!
• Good crew becomes essential because the difference in aim and reload times between good and poor crews make or break the usability of this SPG. Modules like Shell Rammer and camo net are immensely useful because the shell rammer will increase rate of fire and decrease your loading time and the camo net will help conceal you. You should save up, if you don't have enough, but if you have enough, buy it. it will be worth it in the long term and will help you earn exp and credits.

Early Research

• If you came from Pz.Sfl. IVb, install FuG 7 radio. If you came from Bison, research it, as the Fug 37's low range all too often leaves you unable to see targets to shoot at.
• Grinding with stock gun is a slow, painful chore as you need to drive to vulnerable locations near enemy lines to get enemy in range. Purchase Enhanced Springs and get 15 cm sFH 13 L/17 ASAP.
• Now research the engine for a bit more mobility.
• Research the FuG 12 radio if you haven't already done so on any other German tank.
• Research suspension on your leisure. Once you have it, you can remove/destroy Enhanced Springs to make room for some more useful equipment, like the camo net.

Suggested Equipment

    

Gallery

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  Grille front left view

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  Grille rear left view

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  Grille rear right view

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  Grille front left view

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  Grille front right view

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  Grille back left view

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  Grille back right view

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  Grille, El Halouf map

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  Grille, El Halouf map

Historical Info

Grille Ausf. M on display at the US Army Ordnance Museum.

From February to April of 1943, BMM produced 91 15cm Schweres Infanteriegeschuetz 33 (Sf) auf Panzerkampfwagen 38(t) Ausf H self-propelled heavy infantry guns on PzKpfw 38(t) chassis'. Vehicles were issued to heavy infantry gun units of the Panzergrenadier and Panzer Divisions. Six vehicles were in each gun detachment.

282 15cm Schweres Infanteriegeschuetz 33/1 auf Panzerkampfwagen 38(t) Ausf K/M self-propelled heavy infantry guns on PzKpfw 38(t) chassis' were produced by BMM from April-June of 1943, and from October 1943 to September of 1944. They issued just as Ausf H vehicles to heavy infantry gun units of Panzergrenadier and Panzer Divisions. From January to May of 1944, 102 ammunition carriers based on the Ausf K/M were produced by BMM. They were simply unarmed self-propelled heavy infantry guns with ammunition racks instead of the main gun. They could be easily converted into self-propelled heavy infantry guns, if needed, and were issued to Grille units. Ammunition carriers were designated as Munitionspanzer 38(t) (Sf) Ausf K/Ms (Sd. Kfz. 138).

Grille in German means cicada.

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Historical Gallery

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  Grille Ausf. M on display at the US Army Ordnance Museum

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

The 15 cm s.F.H. 13 L/17 was only mounted on Lorraine 37L tractors, designated 15 cm sFH13/1 (Sf) auf Geschuetzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f); this SPG does not exist in World of Tanks. Its configuration on the Grille is fake.

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