G.W. Tiger (P)
G.W. Tiger (P)
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[Client Values; Actual values in
2,650,000  Cost |
| 44088 HP Hit Points |
| 74.9/7529.24/78 t Weight Limit |
- Commander
- Gunner
- Driver
- Radio Operator
- Loader
- Loader
| 600640 hp Engine Power |
| 35/10 km/h Speed Limit |
| 1416 deg/s Traverse |
| 8.0121.89 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
| YesYes Pivot |
| // mm Hull Armor |
HE/HE
HE/HE Shells |
0/1505/1440
0/2390/2280 Shell Cost |
| 750/950/500900/1200/640 HP Damage |
| 44/55/26853/66/296 mm Penetration |
|
1.82 r/m ▲
1.3 r/m Standard Gun ▲ Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
|
1365 ▲
Standard Gun ▼
Standard Gun ▲
1170 Standard Gun
▲
Standard Gun ▼
Standard Gun ▲ Damage Per Minute Standard Gun
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0.67 m ▲
0.79 m With 50% Crew: 0.83 m ▲ Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.979 m |
| 4.8 s 5.2 s Aim time |
| 1010 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
| 10° Gun Arc |
| -2°/+48°-2°/+48° Elevation Arc |
| 2115 rounds Ammo Capacity |
| 2020 % Chance of Fire |
| 290 m 290 m View Range |
| 310 m 710 m Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 3.7%
- When Moving: 1.4%
- When Firing: 0.3%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 1.25
- On Medium Ground: 1.44
- On Soft Ground: 2.4
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.61
- Shot Recoil: 5.75
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.42
- Turning: 0.42
With 100% Crew
VIII
2650000
The G.W. Tiger (P) is a German tier 8 self-propelled gun.
Conceptualization of a heavy SPG mounted on an elongated Porsche Tiger chassis. It is known that Ferdinand Porsche intended to develop the SPG; however, the work was never started.
The G.W. Tiger (P) leads to the G.W. Tiger.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Guns
| Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price (  )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VIII | 17 cm Kanone 72 | 44/55/268 | 750/950/500 | 1.82 | 0.67 | 4.8 | 6750 | 140000 | |
| IX | 21 cm Mörser 18/1 | 53/66/296 | 900/1200/640 | 1.3 | 0.79 | 5.2 | 5900 | 245000 |
Engines
| Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VII | 2 x Maybach HL 120 TRM | 600 | 20 | 1840 | 35500 | |
| VIII | 2 x Porsche Typ 101/1 | 640 | 20 | 1840 | 54000 |
Suspensions
| Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VII | G.W. Tiger (P) | 75 | 14 | 0 | 21000 | 20000 | |
| VIII | G.W. Tiger (P) verstärkteketten | 78 | 16 | 0 | 21000 | 36000 |
Radios
| Tier | Radio | Signal Range (m) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ( )
| |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| III | FuG 5 | 310 | 50 | 630 | |
| VI | FuG 7 | 415 | 70 | 8160 | |
| IX | FuG 12 | 710 | 150 | 43200 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
+ Best alpha damage of any tier 8 artillery; can deal serious damage to any tank in the game.
+ Best stock gun alpha damage, penetration and burst radius of any tier 8 artillery.
+ Surprisingly good hull armor for an SPG, can get the random lucky bounce.
+ Unappealing to ram due to weight and hull armor thickness.
+ Lower than average gun dispersion while turning the hull makes up for its lack of gun traverse.
+ Supersonic shell speed with the 17cm Kanone 72; shells take about an average of 3-4 seconds to reach their max range.
+ Extreme gun range that sees the most usage on large maps like Frontline where it can lob shells halfway across the map almost 1500m away from its target. Ensures its own safety.
Cons:
- Poor mobility, struggles to relocate.
- Narrow gun traverse arc.
- Paper-thin casemate armor negates the hull armor's usefulness.
- Enormous target with very poor concealment.
- Under risk of running out of shells in longer games.
- Its own range becomes a con in smaller maps; comes with terribly narrow artillery arc on Random Battles.
Performance
The G.W. Tiger (P) is very different from its predecessor, the G.W. Panther. The G.W. Tiger (P) is significantly less mobile, while gun performance is more about damage than accuracy.
The outstanding feature of the G.W. Tiger (P) is its lack of mobility. Due to weak engine and abysmal ground resistance it will often struggle to reach even 20 kilometers per hour in stock configuration. The term "slug" would even seem out of place since it's beyond sluggish.
The engine upgrade delivers a meager 6.67% more power, in exchange for an eye-watering 31.000 experience. You'll still want this upgrade, as improved mobility is desperately needed, but the difference won't be spectacular. If you have credits to spare, consider using a fuel consumable, which will make movement less painful.
Relocating between firing positions is time consuming, and a retreat from an exposed position will be as slow as it will be hazardous. It might be prudent to instead opt for a perhaps less rewarding but safer position further back. The practically non-existent camouflage rating of the G.W. Tiger (P) provides another reason to choose a position as far back as possible.
Should your team push hard on one flank and leave the other wide open, the G.W. Tiger (P) will be hard pressed to keep up with the other tanks, even if it does not stop to lob a single shell at the enemy.
Alternatively, you could stay in place to provide support fire, take your chances with enemy tanks possibly exploiting the flank left open by your team mates, and hope for the best. However, realize that the low mobility of the G.W. Tiger (P) makes it extremely difficult to defend against scouts, especially ones that move horizontally to you, forcing you to turn.
The combination of fire and movement is unfortunately not very practical due to the slow speed, low tank traverse rate and narrow gun arc of the G.W. Tiger (P). Should you attempt to utilize the reload time of the gun for movement, the time needed to traverse the tank, the direction of the target, and the direction of your movement and back to another target can be substantial, especially when tough terrain is involved. There will be comparatively few seconds left to move the tank when aim time is accounted for, thus slowing the already sluggish movement rate of the G.W. Tiger (P) down to a crawl.
What the G.W. Tiger (P) does offer, however, is the most powerful stock gun of any tier VIII artillery. The 17 cm "Kanone 72" is in terms of damage, penetration and burst radius more akin to the 180/183mm top guns of some tier IX/X SPG’s than the 152/155mm guns of other tier VIII SPG’s. If you want a hard-hitting gun but can't stand the lengthy reload of the biggest guns, the 17 cm "Kanone 72" might suit you.
The top gun of the G.W. Tiger (P), the 21 cm "Mörser 18/1" is a different beast altogether with a lot worse accuracy, a lot longer reload, but a devastating effect on enemies. This gun deals 1100 alpha damage if it penetrates, which can only happen to some light tanks, tanks with paper thin armor, or vehicles with an open roof. The longer reload of the top gun means fewer shots fired, less time spent acquiring targets, and more time available for movement. A 21 cm Mörser can also be found as the top gun of similar tier IX and tier X German SPG's.
Despite its drawbacks, it remains a favorable choice for Frontline. It is undeniably powerful as an attacker, but can be challenging to navigate back towards your side covering a distance of about 3km if your defenses fail as a defender. When positioned well, its shell's almost 60-degree impact arc at max range, shell speed and the wide coverage span enable you to effectively gun down almost everyone on the map from the attack side. As a defender, it is strongly recommended to retreat until you reach a point just beyond the border of the last area where the pillbox batteries are located, given your sluggish speed in the case of a defense breaching you'll become a juicy target for everybody.
Current as of version 1.0.0.1
Early Research
- Immediately research the suspension, preferably with free experience, to be able to fit an Artillery Shell Rammer and a Gun Laying Drive.
- Alternatively, you may want to fit the Enhanced Longitudinal Torsion Bar, to be able to leave the suspension for last.
- Research the top gun or engine, depending on whether you want a gun with higher alpha damage or improved mobility.
- The upgraded gun is lighter than the stock gun.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
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Historical Info
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
The vehicle's in-game description is false. No historical records of this SPG exists since all Tiger (P)s were converted into the Ferdinand tank destroyer.
Sources and External Links
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