Ikv 65 Alt II

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Ikv 65 Alt II

Sweden | TD | Tier VI

Battle Tier

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933,000   Cost

650130 HP Hit Points

10.75/114.88/14 t Weight Limit

Crew

1. Commander (Radio Operator)
2. Driver
3. Gunner
4. Loader

Mobility

190215 hp Engine Power

60/20 km/h Speed Limit

3032 deg/s Traverse

17.6744.06 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio

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Armor

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Armament

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280/4000/195 320/4000/195 Shell Cost

240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage

155/230/45180/230/45 mm Penetration

| |}} | |}} 6.59 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 9.1 s 50% Crew: 11.27 s 75% Crew: 9.84 s 100% Crew: 8.73 s Rammer: 7.86 s Vents: 8.54 s Both: 7.68 s Both and BiA: 7.52 s Both and Max Crew %: 7.21 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. | |}} | |}} 6.19 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 9.7 s 50% Crew: 12.02 s 75% Crew: 10.49 s 100% Crew: 9.3 s Rammer: 8.37 s Vents: 9.1 s Both: 8.19 s Both and BiA: 8.01 s Both and Max Crew %: 7.68 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. Rate of Fire

| |}} | |}} 1581.6 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1581.6 50% Crew: 1276.8 75% Crew: 1461.6 100% Crew: 1648.8 100% Crew Vents: 1684.8 Rammer: 1831.2 Both: 1874.4 Both and BiA: 1915.2 Both and Max Crew %: 1996.8 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1821.6 50% Crew: 1516.8 75% Crew: 1701.6 100% Crew: 1888.8 100% Crew Rammer: 2071.2 Vents: 1924.8 Both: 2114.4 Both and BiA: 2155.2 Both and Max Crew %: 2236.8 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1581.6 50% Crew: 1276.8 75% Crew: 1461.6 100% Crew: 1648.8 100% Crew Vents: 1684.8 Rammer: 1831.2 Both: 1874.4 Both and BiA: 1915.2 Both and Max Crew %: 1996.8 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1821.6 50% Crew: 1516.8 75% Crew: 1701.6 100% Crew: 1888.8 100% Crew Rammer: 2071.2 Vents: 1924.8 Both: 2114.4 Both and BiA: 2155.2 Both and Max Crew %: 2236.8 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 2108.8 50% Crew: 1702.4 75% Crew: 1948.8 100% Crew: 2198.4 100% Crew Vents: 2246.4 Rammer: 2441.6 Both: 2499.2 Both and BiA: 2553.6 Both and Max Crew %: 2662.4 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2428.8 50% Crew: 2022.4 75% Crew: 2268.8 100% Crew: 2518.4 100% Crew Rammer: 2761.6 Vents: 2566.4 Both: 2819.2 Both and BiA: 2873.6 Both and Max Crew %: 2982.4 See here, here, or here for more information. | |}} | |}} 1485.6 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1485.6 50% Crew: 1200 75% Crew: 1372.8 100% Crew: 1550.4 100% Crew Vents: 1586.4 Rammer: 1723.2 Both: 1761.6 Both and BiA: 1800 Both and Max Crew %: 1879.2 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1725.6 50% Crew: 1440 75% Crew: 1612.8 100% Crew: 1790.4 100% Crew Rammer: 1963.2 Vents: 1826.4 Both: 2001.6 Both and BiA: 2040 Both and Max Crew %: 2119.2 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1485.6 50% Crew: 1200 75% Crew: 1372.8 100% Crew: 1550.4 100% Crew Vents: 1586.4 Rammer: 1723.2 Both: 1761.6 Both and BiA: 1800 Both and Max Crew %: 1879.2 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1725.6 50% Crew: 1440 75% Crew: 1612.8 100% Crew: 1790.4 100% Crew Rammer: 1963.2 Vents: 1826.4 Both: 2001.6 Both and BiA: 2040 Both and Max Crew %: 2119.2 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1980.8 50% Crew: 1600 75% Crew: 1830.4 100% Crew: 2067.2 100% Crew Vents: 2115.2 Rammer: 2297.6 Both: 2348.8 Both and BiA: 2400 Both and Max Crew %: 2505.6 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2300.8 50% Crew: 1920 75% Crew: 2150.4 100% Crew: 2387.2 100% Crew Rammer: 2617.6 Vents: 2435.2 Both: 2668.8 Both and BiA: 2720 Both and Max Crew %: 2825.6 See here, here, or here for more information. Damage Per Minute

| |}} 0.36 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.446 m With 75% Crew: 0.389 m With 100% Crew: 0.345 m With BiA: 0.338 m With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m Maximum possible: 0.317 m For more details, see Crew | |}} 0.34 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.421 m With 75% Crew: 0.368 m With 100% Crew: 0.326 m With BiA: 0.319 m With BiA and Vents: 0.312 m Maximum possible: 0.299 m For more details, see Crew Accuracy

| |}} 2.1 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 2.601 s With 75% Crew: 2.271 s With 100% Crew: 2.014 s With GLD: 1.831 s With BiA: 1.969 s With BiA and Vents: 1.926 s With both and GLD: 1.751 s Maximum possible: 1.679 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment | |}} 1.9 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 2.354 s With 75% Crew: 2.055 s With 100% Crew: 1.822 s With GLD: 1.656 s With BiA: 1.782 s With BiA and Vents: 1.743 s With both and GLD: 1.584 s Maximum possible: 1.519 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment Aim time

2424 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed

30° Gun Arc

-10°/+12°-10°/+12° Elevation Arc

4040 rounds Ammo Capacity

General

1515 % Chance of Fire

330 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 259.3 m With 75% Crew: 294.7 m With 100% Crew: 330 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m With Coated Optics: 363 m With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m Maximum possible: 472.4 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment 330 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 259.3 m With 75% Crew: 294.7 m With 100% Crew: 330 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m With Coated Optics: 363 m With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m Maximum possible: 472.4 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment View Range

| |}} 455 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 357.5 m With 75% Crew: 406.3 m With 100% Crew: 455 m With 100% Signal Boost: 546 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 500.5 m Maximum possible: 654.7 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment | |}} 615 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 483.2 m With 75% Crew: 549.2 m With 100% Crew: 615 m With 100% Signal Boost: 738 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 676.5 m Maximum possible: 884.9 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment Signal Range

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Ikv 103

Ikv 65 Alt II

Ikv 90 Typ B

VI

933000

The Ikv 65 Alt II is a Swedish tier 6 tank destroyer.

In the mid-1960s, the Swedish Ministry of Defense laid out requirements for a new light tank. The lightly armored vehicle should combine high speed and maneuverability with powerful armament that would be sufficient to oppose modern tanks and provide fire support to the infantry. Landsverk developed several projects with both a rotating turret and a gun mounted on a stationary superstructure. They were essentially tank destroyers. Development of the project was discontinued at the drafting and modelling stage.

The Ikv 65 still retains the "glass cannon" traits from its predecessor. It has great mobility and a small size that provides a great camouflage rating, but also doesn't have armor protection. This tank destroyer abandons the traits from the early Ikv project that classed it as an infantry support SPG in real life, with powerful derp shot but awful gun handling. Instead, the Ikv 65 offers much better gun handling and excellent penetration in exchange for much lower alpha damage. That makes it the true sniper in its tier.

The Ikv 65 Alt II leads to the Ikv 90 Typ B.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

Guns

Tier	Gun	Penetration (mm)	Damage (HP)	Rate of fire (rounds/minute)	Dispersion (m/100m)	Aiming time (s)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VI	9 cm Bofors L/43	155/230/45	240/240/320	6.59	0.36	2.1		600	72000
VII	9 cm Bofors L/53	180/230/45	240/240/320	6.19	0.34	1.9		815	84000

Engines

Tier	Engine	Engine Power (hp)	Chance of Fire on Impact (%)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
V	Volvo TD 70 A	190	15		660	12100
V	GM 6V 53	215	15		700	15300

Suspensions

Tier	Suspension	Load Limit (т)	Traverse Speed (gr/sec)	Rmin		Weight (kg)	Price ()
V	Ikv 65 Alt II	11	30	0		3000	8800
VI	Ikv 65 Alt III	14	32	0		3000	15100

Radios

Tier	Radio	Signal Range (m)		Weight (kg)	Price ()
VII	Ra 100	455		14	23500
VIII	Ra 105	525		8	24800
IX	Ra 146	615		12	33600

Compatible Equipment

                   

Compatible Consumables

                     

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Very high top speed and acceleration due to low weight

- Satisfactory penetration and damage, especially at top tier

- Excellent turning. Can spin quickly directly after moving

- Maintains its trait of plentiful gun depression

- Exceptional camouflage ratings

- Reverse speed allows the tank to hide as soon as it is spotted

- Very playable stock, with good mobility and a gun that has decent penetration

Cons:

- By far the lowest DPM of any Tier VI TD; the Jagdpanzer IV has almost 1k more (70%!)

- Absolutely no armor, most guns' HE shells can rip it to pieces; easily one-shotted by howitzers and can be a prized target to SPG's

- Reasonably tight horizontal gun arc

- Gun's accuracy demands some aim time

- Long reload for a gun with this damage

- Mediocre momentum; often swings when braking at high speed, combined with a tight gun arc makes it unsuitable for snapshots

- Tends to getting flipped a lot when running over some small rocks due to instability issues

- Engine gets hit a lot

- Limited gun elevation when on a downward slope

Performance

This tank is a great sniper, and was built to be. Take advantage of your good gun depression and high pen to snipe away at tanks from far away. If things get too hairy you can run away and relocate. With your top speed you can also act as a ninja TD in some cases, and sometimes be able to flank enemy tank destroyers! Some reliable tactics are to use the excellent reverse speed of 20kmh and your reasonably small profile to kite enemies around terrain such as rocks and undulations to make up for your terrible DPM. Use this to out-trade opponents with higher DPM than you and remain reasonably healthy for late game. Another technique is to train a camo crew and abuse concealment like a light tank. The mobility allows it to comfortably go up to a bush, proc. binoculars, pull back and shoot your enemy.

Early Research

- Only the Ra 146 radio carries over from the Ikv 103
- Choice of researching the top gun for better gun handling or the engine. Upgraded tracks are required for the gun.
- Finish any remaining modules

Suggested Equipment

   

Gallery

Historical Info

After the Ikv 103 it wouldn't be until the mid-60's before the Ikv concept was brought up again, but this time with an emphasis on being able to fight tanks and other AFV’s. In total three different companies were asked to submit their designs for the new Ikv, which they called Ikv 65. First there was Landsverk, who had produced the other Ikv’s. Then there was Hägglunds, who had just started producing their armoured personel carrier design for the Swedish army, and finally there was Bofors, who was also developing the S-tank. Of all these companies Landsverk was the most experienced, having produced virtually every Swedish tank design from the 1930's to the 1950's. However Landsverk had fallen on hard times after losing the contract for the army’s new APC to Hägglunds, but it was decided to make a last ditch effort to keep the military part of the company going and five different designs were submitted for the new Ikv project. The first proposal was essentially a rebuilt Ikv 103 with a bigger superstructure and bigger engine. The main armament, shared between all the proposals, was a Bofors 90mm L/54 low pressure gun, developed from the Pvpj1110 recoilless rifle. There was however a number of versions of this gun considered (although not directly by Landsverk).

Ikv 65 proposal 1

The other Ikv 65 proposals used their own original suspension and did not vary that much from each other, except for the final design, which was to be based of the Pbv 302 APC chassis and was to have a fully traversable turret.

Ikv 65 proposal 2

Ikv 65 proposal 3

Ikv 65 proposal 4

Ikv 65 proposal 5

Despite the Landsverk design being the one preferred by the Army, it was ultimately decided to go with the Hägglunds design due to the greater interchangeability of parts between the new Ikv and the Hägglunds-designed and built Pbv 302 APC. Eventually this led to the production Ikv 91 in 1975, but that is a story for another part. After losing the contract for the Ikv 91, Landsverk did shut down its military design section and focused on the production of civilian excavators. After that it wasn’t long until the remaining part of the company was sold off to Volvo BM, and by the mid-70's Landsverk was shut down for good.

This was Landsverk’s most detailed one and the one they favored. A very detailed scale model was built, but since a competitor’s design was chosen instead the design otherwise remained on paper.

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Sources and External Links

External Links

• https://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/22/swedish-tanks-part-xx-ikv-103-ikv-65/

Sweden

Tank Destroyers

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