Tank:GB44 Archer - Revision history

Gangfire:na: The usual spelling/grammar/style fixes; a work in progress.

2024-03-02T20:14:54Z

The usual spelling/grammar/style fixes; a work in progress.

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Tech78:na: old tier tree position, clarify reverse mount info

2023-12-20T02:55:50Z

old tier tree position, clarify reverse mount info

Saykecske:eu at 08:32, 6 May 2020

2020-05-06T08:32:21Z

Scinfaxi:na: added video

2020-03-28T17:04:48Z

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2020-01-18T18:37:51Z

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Wolcott:na: inaccuracies

2019-04-17T18:33:23Z

inaccuracies

Kanna_The_Goldammo_Eater:sea at 17:46, 9 April 2019

2019-04-09T17:46:40Z

Tylotigo:eu at 18:07, 13 December 2018

2018-12-13T18:07:35Z

Kanna_The_Goldammo_Eater:sea at 06:57, 28 March 2018

2018-03-28T06:57:59Z

BeezerWashingbeard:na: Fixed atrocious grammar in introductory paragraph. Seriously, it was really bad.

2017-08-12T04:02:52Z

Fixed atrocious grammar in introductory paragraph. Seriously, it was really bad.

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-|The unique tank that shares traits with [[Tank:Crusader 5.5-in. SP|Crusader SP]] for mounting the gun backwards on a Valentine chassis. That makes its reverse speed much higher than forward speed (12/35 KM). This means that for travelling, you must drive backwards. However, this awkward gun placement can save your life from flanking (Especially because it's thinly armored). It can mount a deadly 17 pdr gun aka nightmare in Tier 5.
+|The unique tank that shares traits with [[Tank:Crusader 5.5-in. SP|Crusader SP]] for mounting the gun backwards on a Valentine chassis. That makes its reverse speed much higher than forward speed (12/35 KM). This means that for travelling, you must drive backwards which requires a certain degree of attention and setup time when reaching a new firing position. However, this gun placement can turn from awkward to life-saving when retreating or being flanked (Especially because it's thinly armored). It can mount a deadly 17 pdr gun aka nightmare in Tier 5.
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 However, the appalling speed driving forwards combined with the good backwards speed means that the Archer should not participate in pushes. The top speed of 12 kph means you are too slow to participate properly (and be very vulnerable if caught in the open), and driving backwards is not recommend if at risk at engaging enemies. This means that when playing the Archer, you should pick a good spot to hide and snipe, and only relocate within a short distance.
-The powerful and accurate top gun and fast turning radius make the Archer an excellent artillery guard, as it can engage both heavily armoured targets at a distance as well as fast moving lights relatively close up. But as always with the Archer: don't get into attrition-based firefights.
+The powerful top gun and fast turning radius make the Archer an excellent artillery guard, as it can engage both heavily armoured targets at a distance as well as fast moving lights relatively close up. But as always with the Archer: don't get into attrition-based firefights.
 As a side note, when playing the Archer, be prepared to take the reactions of other players graciously. The Archer seem to attract a lot of ire from team mates, as there seem to be more than a few players which don't understand the limitations and playing style of the Archer, i.e. that you need to camp and can't very well participate in pushes.

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 The '''Self Propelled 17pdr, Valentine, Mk I, Archer''' was a [[UK|British]] [[Tank_Destroyers|Tank Destroyer]] of the [[World War II|Second World War]] based on the [[Tank:GB04_Valentine|Valentine]] [[infantry tank]] [[chassis]] fitted with an [[Ordnance QF 17 pounder]] gun.

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	The '''Self Propelled 17pdr, Valentine, Mk I, Archer''' was a [[UK\|British]] [[Tank_Destroyers\|Tank Destroyer]] of the [[World War II\|Second World War]] based on the [[Tank:GB04_Valentine\|Valentine]] [[infantry tank]] [[chassis]] fitted with an [[Ordnance QF 17 pounder]] gun.		The '''Self Propelled 17pdr, Valentine, Mk I, Archer''' was a [[UK\|British]] [[Tank_Destroyers\|Tank Destroyer]] of the [[World War II\|Second World War]] based on the [[Tank:GB04_Valentine\|Valentine]] [[infantry tank]] [[chassis]] fitted with an [[Ordnance QF 17 pounder]] gun.

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	Post-war the Archer served with the [[Egyptian Army]]. Surviving vehicles are preserved at the [[Yad La-Shiryon]] museum in [[Latrun]], [[Overloon War Museum\|National War and Resistance Museum, Overloon]] in the Netherlands, and the [[Bovington Tank Museum]] in the UK. The Archer served with some units of the Royal Armoured Corps in the [[British Army of the Rhine]] (BAOR) in the early 1950s.		Post-war the Archer served with the [[Egyptian Army]]. Surviving vehicles are preserved at the [[Yad La-Shiryon]] museum in [[Latrun]], [[Overloon War Museum\|National War and Resistance Museum, Overloon]] in the Netherlands, and the [[Bovington Tank Museum]] in the UK. The Archer served with some units of the Royal Armoured Corps in the [[British Army of the Rhine]] (BAOR) in the early 1950s.
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		+	SCC No. 15 Olive Drab paint scheme is missing. This was the base colour on all British AFVs in Europe from April 1944.
		+	* Allied star identification marking is missing. The Royal Armoured Corps recognition mark (or flash) was only used until mid-1942; the Archer entered service in September 1944.

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 - Stupidly placed gun means you have to go backwards to reach its top speed(32 KM/H)
-- Awful forward speed  (12 KM/H; even worse than the TOG II!)
+- Awful forward speed  (12 KM/H; even worse than the TOG II!), and its top (reverse) speed isn't impressive either
 - The tank is a glass cannon with virtually no armor; any large calibre howitzer will decimate you

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 The Archer is an unusual vehicle in many respects, while also being rather typical in others. Because the gun was placed backwards on the chassis, the reverse speed is faster than the forward speed. This trait makes it a perfect ambush vehicle; after opponents at range get too close or you are spotted, it will reverse safely back into cover. Practising backwards driving will be of great benefit in this vehicle.
-Aside from the unusually high reverse speed relative to the forward speed, it is a fairly typical open-topped thinly-shielded tank destroyer. Do not get shot at at all: while derived from the Valentine chassis, it does not share the armour, and will be destroyed quickly if cover it not sought.
+Aside from the unusually high reverse speed relative to the forward speed, it is a fairly typical open-topped thinly-shielded tank destroyer. Do not get shot at at all: while derived from the Valentine chassis, it does not share the armour (due to the rear armor now being the frontal armor), and will be destroyed quickly if cover it not sought.
 However, the appalling speed driving forwards combined with the good backwards speed means that the Archer should not participate in pushes. The top speed of 12 kph means you are too slow to participate properly (and be very vulnerable if caught in the open), and driving backwards is not recommend if at risk at engaging enemies. This means that when playing the Archer, you should pick a good spot to hide and snipe, and only relocate within a short distance.