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 * Can perform drive-by's * Can perform drive-by's
 * Low profile * Low profile
 +* Good camouflage value
 * Somewhat good as TD arty * Somewhat good as TD arty
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 * Low HP * Low HP

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Magazine-fed Gun

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Magazine Reload Times
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Magazine-fed Gun

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Cycle Time: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13f3am::top|reloadtime s
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75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
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Magazine-fed Gun

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Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13f3am::stock|damage2 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13f3am::stock|damage3 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13f3am::top|damage1 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13f3am::top|damage2 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13f3am::top|damage3 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With both and GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s

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With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With both and GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s

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With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Coated Optics: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Binocular Telescope: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
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With Coated Optics: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Binocular Telescope: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
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When affected by 100% Relaying: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Signal Boost: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
When affected by 100% Relaying: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
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Engines

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(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
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Radios

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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Good top speed
  • Can perform drive-by's
  • Low profile
  • Good camouflage value
  • Somewhat good as TD arty


Cons:


  • Low HP
  • Poor acceleration
  • Extremely high dispersion while turning
  • Asymetrical gun arc


Performance

While not necessarily a con, the AMX 13 F3 AM's gun arc is not symmetrical. The gun arc's strong bias to the right allows you to hedge up next to a building on your left side and retain the ability to shoot out with the rest of the arc. It may also be beneficial insofar as much that it may be more difficult for other SPG's to counter you due to the strange orientation. This point is of course moot if you encounter higher tier SPG's as even their splash will kill you. Furthermore it is possible to perform a drive-by on an enemy tank if they are caught unawares and potentially deadly when the target is ≤50% HP. Just be careful not to drive too close or you may be caught in your own splash. Many players will often treat Mountain Pass map as their home map for this SPG,if lucky you can climb the mountain in one base to take shots while having a view of your base

While The F3's acceleration leaves something to be desired (comparable perhaps to the Panther) it can and will achieve top speed over flat ground, giving you the edge if you need to relocate; though compared to other SPG's its acceleration is golden.

Compared to its parent, the 105, the F3 has the ability to penetrate and do considerable damage to Tier 7 and 8 tanks. If you connect solidly with a tank, expect to do around 200-300 damage, double that, or more if you connect in the flank or rear. Gone are the days of plinking Lowe's for 75 damage.

The dispersion and aim time for the top tier gun leave something to be desired. With the changes implemented with patch 8.0, the accuracy of this particular SPG has become strange. You can't always count on a shot landing where you placed it; a trait it now shares with its parent the 105 AM.


Suggested Equipment


Camouflage Net Medium-Caliber Artillery Shell Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Gallery

Historical Info

AMX 13 F3, or the Canon de 155 mm Mle F3 Automoteur (Cn-155-F3-Am) was a 155 mm SPG developed in the early 1950s by the French Army to replace their aging American M41 Gorilla 155mm self-propelled guns. The Mk F3 is the smallest and lightest 155 mm motorized gun carriage ever produced. Due to its size and low cost it has found considerable success on the export market. Constructed on a modified AMX-13 light tank chassis, the Mk F3 is novel in incorporating room inside for only two of the eight required crewmen (the others riding in support vehicles). This allowed the 155 mm gun to be placed on a smaller and more mobile chassis than that employed by other armies, but also exposed the crew members to arms fire and splinters.

Backround

AMX 13 F3 in a deployed position

In the early 1950s the French Army desired to replace their aging American M41 howitzers with an indigenous design, based on the AMX-13 light tank chassis. Result of these efforts was the Mk F3 that entered production in the early 1960s. Its low cost and light weight made it a very popular weapon system on the export market. It was exported to a number of South American and Middle Eastern countries, and remained in production until the early 1980s, long after the French Army had themselves converted to the fully enclosed GCT 155mm self-propelled artillery system.

Design features

The Mk F3 is essentially a modified AMX-13 light tank chassis with the rear idler removed and the hull modified to accept a 155 mm cannon and its recoil, elevating and traversing mechanisms, including two rear spades which reversed into the ground to give added stability when firing. The 155 mm gun was designed by the Atelier de Construction de Tarbes (ATS), and the chassis by the Atelier de Construction Roanne (ARE). Integration of the gun with the chassis and all firing trials were undertaken by the Etablissement d'Etudes et de Fabrications d'Armement de Bourges (EFAB). Because the ARE was tooling up for production of the AMX-30 main battle tank, production of the whole AMX-13 tank family, including the F3 155 mm self-propelled gun, was transferred to Mécanique Creusot-Loire.

The F3 fired the standard 155 mm high-explosive projectile, and is also capable of firing the smoke, illumination and rocket-assisted rounds. The effective range is 20,050 m with 43.75 kg HE rounds. The hull of the Mk F3 is of all-welded steel armor measuring 10 to 20 mm, providing the two occupants with protection from small arms fire and shell splinters. The layout is conventional, with the driver's compartment at the front on the left, engine compartment to the right and the 155 mm gun above at the rear. A splashboard is mounted at the front of the hull to stop water from rushing up the glacis plate when the vehicle is fording streams.
AMX 13 F3 designed to replace M41 in French army service
A replacement road wheel is often carried on the glacis plate. The driver has a single-piece hatch that opens to the left, and is provided with three daylight periscopes, the center one of which is replaceable by an image intensification (or thermal) periscope for night driving. The commander is seated behind the driver and has a two-piece hatch that opens to either side. The commander is also provided with three daylight periscopes.

The torsion bar suspension consists of five single rubber-tyred road wheels with the drive sprocket at the front and the fifth roadwheel acting as the idler. There are three track-return rollers. The first and last road wheel stations have hydraulic shock-absorbers. The steel tracks can be fitted with rubber pads if required. Stowage containers are provided along each side of the upper part of the hull. Standard equipment includes a loudspeaker and a cable reel with 400 m of cable.

Design flaws

AMX 13 F3, smallest 155mm SPG ever built

Weaknesses to the Mk F3 design included a lack of nuclear-biological-chemical (NBC) protection for its crew. It also could accommodate only two of the eight crew members needed to operate the weapons system. The remaining six crew members and 25 rounds of ammunition travel in support vehicles, normally AMX-VCIs. If necessary, the additional crew members can travel on the upper deck of the vehicle, but in all cases the crew members must remain outside the vehicle and exposed to arms fire.

Production

A total of around 600 veichles was produced until the late eightees, with the last 10 units delivered to Morocco as late as 1997. Besides the French army, the system was widly exported and used by the armies of Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Peru, Venezuela and Qatar.


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