AMX 13 F3 AM
Revision as of 04:58, 1 October 2014 FV304 would probably be considered the "best" now, even with the nerfs, due to its permatrack and better speed. Also took out a few exaggerations with the arty's power. | Revision as of 05:57, 3 February 2015 reworked pros, cons, performance sections. in TD mode, it is very bad due to lack of gun depression and massive bloom. | |||
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* Good top speed | * Good top speed | |||
* Decent acceleration | * Decent acceleration | |||
? | * Can perform drive-by's | + | * Can perform drive-by's (if RNG favors you, see first con) | |
* Low profile | * Low profile | |||
* Good camouflage value | * Good camouflage value | |||
* Asymmetrical gun arc is helpful in niche situations | * Asymmetrical gun arc is helpful in niche situations | |||
? | * | + | * Wide gun arc | |
+ | * Good vertical shell arc on stock gun | |||
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? | * High dispersion while turning | + | * High dispersion while turning or moving | |
? | * Asymmetrical gun arc | + | * Asymmetrical gun arc can be a bit tricky to utilize | |
* Absolutely no gun depression | * Absolutely no gun depression | |||
+ | * 185mm penetration HEAT round of french high tier artillery pieces starts with this one. | |||
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? | + | The Amx 13 F3 AM is one of the most mobile tier 6 artillery pieces, having a good acceleration and excellent top speed. To add to this, the camouflage values of this artillery is very good, since it has a low profile. These attributes make the AMX 13 a stealthy, easy to relocate SPG that can utilize its mobility to move to better firing lines quickly to get shots on tanks that think they are safe. This, combined with the highest damage at tier of 950 damage on its HE round makes it a threat to any tank it faces, and can allow it to one-shot many lower-tier tanks. | ||
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? | + | Although the aim time and reload has received a nerf from the values prior to 8.6, the fully aimed accuracy remains quite good and there will be no problems hitting your targets, however the aim time is extremely long. The asymmetrical gun arc has a bit of a learning curve, but for standard use the angle that you are given to shoot from is quite generous, and there is a fair margin for turning the gun without having to turn the tank. Make sure you're always angling your SPG to the left a bit, as this will maximize the use of your gun arc. | ||
? | Surprisingly, | + | Surprisingly, despite to its good accuracy and wide gun arc, it performs very poorly in TD mode. It's high bloom and lack of gun depression make "shotgunning" tanks tricky, relegating it to ambush tactics and relying on its first (and only) shot to kill the enemy. Position on the downslope of a hill to allow your gun to point farther down and increase your chances of a hit. | |
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Revision as of 05:57, 3 February 2015
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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Good top speed
- Decent acceleration
- Can perform drive-by's (if RNG favors you, see first con)
- Low profile
- Good camouflage value
Cons:
- High dispersion while turning or moving
- Asymmetrical gun arc can be a bit tricky to utilize
- Absolutely no gun depression
- 185mm penetration HEAT round of french high tier artillery pieces starts with this one.
Performance
The Amx 13 F3 AM is one of the most mobile tier 6 artillery pieces, having a good acceleration and excellent top speed. To add to this, the camouflage values of this artillery is very good, since it has a low profile. These attributes make the AMX 13 a stealthy, easy to relocate SPG that can utilize its mobility to move to better firing lines quickly to get shots on tanks that think they are safe. This, combined with the highest damage at tier of 950 damage on its HE round makes it a threat to any tank it faces, and can allow it to one-shot many lower-tier tanks.
Although the aim time and reload has received a nerf from the values prior to 8.6, the fully aimed accuracy remains quite good and there will be no problems hitting your targets, however the aim time is extremely long. The asymmetrical gun arc has a bit of a learning curve, but for standard use the angle that you are given to shoot from is quite generous, and there is a fair margin for turning the gun without having to turn the tank. Make sure you're always angling your SPG to the left a bit, as this will maximize the use of your gun arc.
Surprisingly, despite to its good accuracy and wide gun arc, it performs very poorly in TD mode. It's high bloom and lack of gun depression make "shotgunning" tanks tricky, relegating it to ambush tactics and relying on its first (and only) shot to kill the enemy. Position on the downslope of a hill to allow your gun to point farther down and increase your chances of a hit.
Early Research
- The Baudouin 6F 11 SRY Engine and SCR 528F Radio carry over from the AMX 13 105 AM mle. 50. Mount them immediately.
- Next, research the AMX 13 F3 AM bis Suspension.
- Finally, research the Canon de 155 mm de 33 calibres Gun.
Suggested Equipment
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Historical Info
Backround
In the early 1950s the French Army desired to replace their aging American M41 howitzers with an indigenous design, based on the AMX-13 light tank chassis. Result of these efforts was the Mk F3 that entered production in the early 1960s. Its low cost and light weight made it a very popular weapon system on the export market. It was exported to a number of South American and Middle Eastern countries, and remained in production until the early 1980s, long after the French Army had themselves converted to the fully enclosed GCT 155mm self-propelled artillery system.
Design features
The Mk F3 is essentially a modified AMX-13 light tank chassis with the rear idler removed and the hull modified to accept a 155 mm cannon and its recoil, elevating and traversing mechanisms, including two rear spades which reversed into the ground to give added stability when firing. The 155 mm gun was designed by the Atelier de Construction de Tarbes (ATS), and the chassis by the Atelier de Construction Roanne (ARE). Integration of the gun with the chassis and all firing trials were undertaken by the Etablissement d'Etudes et de Fabrications d'Armement de Bourges (EFAB). Because the ARE was tooling up for production of the AMX-30 main battle tank, production of the whole AMX-13 tank family, including the F3 155 mm self-propelled gun, was transferred to Mécanique Creusot-Loire.
The F3 fired the standard 155 mm high-explosive projectile, and is also capable of firing the smoke, illumination and rocket-assisted rounds. The effective range is 20,050 m with 43.75 kg HE rounds. The hull of the Mk F3 is of all-welded steel armor measuring 10 to 20 mm, providing the two occupants with protection from small arms fire and shell splinters. The layout is conventional, with the driver's compartment at the front on the left, engine compartment to the right and the 155 mm gun above at the rear. A splashboard is mounted at the front of the hull to stop water from rushing up the glacis plate when the vehicle is fording streams. A replacement road wheel is often carried on the glacis plate. The driver has a single-piece hatch that opens to the left, and is provided with three daylight periscopes, the center one of which is replaceable by an image intensification (or thermal) periscope for night driving. The commander is seated behind the driver and has a two-piece hatch that opens to either side. The commander is also provided with three daylight periscopes.The torsion bar suspension consists of five single rubber-tyred road wheels with the drive sprocket at the front and the fifth roadwheel acting as the idler. There are three track-return rollers. The first and last road wheel stations have hydraulic shock-absorbers. The steel tracks can be fitted with rubber pads if required. Stowage containers are provided along each side of the upper part of the hull. Standard equipment includes a loudspeaker and a cable reel with 400 m of cable.
Design flaws
Weaknesses to the Mk F3 design included a lack of nuclear-biological-chemical (NBC) protection for its crew. It also could accommodate only two of the eight crew members needed to operate the weapons system. The remaining six crew members and 25 rounds of ammunition travel in support vehicles, normally AMX-VCIs. If necessary, the additional crew members can travel on the upper deck of the vehicle, but in all cases the crew members must remain outside the vehicle and exposed to arms fire.
Production
A total of around 600 veichles was produced until the late eightees, with the last 10 units delivered to Morocco as late as 1997. Besides the French army, the system was widly exported and used by the armies of Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Peru, Venezuela and Qatar.
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