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Does not have two loaders. Has a commander, a driver, and a gunner.
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 * Low penetration * Low penetration
 * Poor gun elevation * Poor gun elevation
?* Only 3 crew, 2 of which are loaders 
 * Modules are fairly close to eachother, increasing risk of single shells, especially HE, damaging several modules at once. * Modules are fairly close to eachother, increasing risk of single shells, especially HE, damaging several modules at once.
  

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health Hit Points
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Crew
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Mobility
engine Engine Power
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traverse Traverse
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Armor
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Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::stock|burstcount rounds
Magazine Size: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::stock|clipcount roundExpression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
Cycle Time: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::stock|reloadtime s
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75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s

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Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|burstcount rounds
Magazine Size: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|clipcount roundExpression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
Cycle Time: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|reloadtime s
50% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::stock|damage1 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::stock|damage2 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::stock|damage3 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|damage1 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|damage2 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|damage3 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
50% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
75% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
100% Crew: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".
With Vents and BiA: Expression error: Unrecognized word "unable".

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Damage Per Minute


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With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

For more details, see Crew
Accuracy


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With 50% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With both and GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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With 50% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With BiA and Vents: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
With both and GLD: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
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0° Gun Arc
-°/+°-Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|depression°/+Unable to match configuration for query: gun:amx_13_75::top|elevation° Elevation Arc
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General
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With 50% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Coated Optics: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Binocular Telescope: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With 50% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Coated Optics: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With Binocular Telescope: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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View Range


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With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Signal Boost: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
When affected by 100% Relaying: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

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With 75% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Crew: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
With 100% Signal Boost: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
When affected by 100% Relaying: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m
Maximum possible: Expression error: Unexpected < operator. m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
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The tank has a decent top-end gun and good dynamic performance. The magazine reload is also better than its predecessor. Something to note is that the gun depression of the AMX 13 75 (and AMX 13 90 in extension) is much better than the AMX 12t's. Its gun elevation, however, is even worse.

The AMX 13 75 is not your typical light tank to play. It gets put in matches with tanks ranging from tier VI to tier X. The best way to play it is to let others go ahead, and when they make contact go and support where you can. Due to its speed, the AMX 13 75 can easily move between engagements, deliver 6 rounds, and then retreat while reloading.

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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Compatible Consumables

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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • 6-round drum permits a high rate of fire
  • Good radio
  • Accurate top gun
  • High turret rotation speed
  • Compact size makes it hard to hit


Cons:


  • Weak armor that allows even HE shells to penetrate with ease.
  • Low penetration
  • Poor gun elevation
  • Modules are fairly close to eachother, increasing risk of single shells, especially HE, damaging several modules at once.


Performance

The AMX 13 75 is an evolution of the design concepts introduced with the AMX 12t. It keeps the good parts and fixes most of the flaws. Once upgraded, the improved accuracy of the gun allows for long-range firing, when desired. The wider tracks possibly improve off-road performance slightly. As with the AMX 12t, this tank is primarily a flanker. Use it to attack the side and rear, and finish off injured enemy tanks. It's main weaknesses are its weak armor and low penetration for its tier. Try not to play with heavies. With only three crew, a crew injury is often devastating. A First Aid kit is highly recommended.

The time it takes to reload the drum with a full 100% crew and Improved Ventilation is about 14 seconds.

The playing style of this tank is similar to American light tanks, especially the M24 Chaffee. However, there are 3 important differences:

  1. The AMX 13 75 can't use a Vertical Stabilizer (it sure would be helpful on this tank!). With only 36 rounds of ammunition, you have to take the time to aim.
  2. The gun beats all nation's guns because of the accuracy and autoloader.
  3. The tier 5 light tanks of other nations have better maneuverability.

It's also worth noting that the enemy often tries to destroy the AMX 13 75 as soon as possible. This is similar to the T-50-2. However, this deficiency can be reversed and used to your team's advantage. That is, divert the attention of the enemy towards you until your allies take the position.

Stock, this tank doesn't have sufficient weight capacity for any equipment other than Coated Optics, since it doesn't weigh anything. The Tank Gun Rammer and Vertical Stabilizer are unavailable on this tank. A Gun Laying Drive is useful for faster aiming. Fans of passive scouting can equip a Camouflage Net.


Early Research

  • Research the 6F11SRY engine first. Although the stock suspension is maxed out, you can still get this engine because it doesn't add any weight.
  • Upgrade the suspension next.
  • Now research the 75 mm SA50 gun for more damage, penetration, and accuracy.
  • Finish up with the Detroit Diesel 6V53T engine and the SCR 528F radio.


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationEnhanced Gun Laying Drive Coated Optics Camouflage Net Toolbox 


Gallery

Historical Info

AMX 13

The AMX-13 is a French light tank produced from 1953 to 1985 (The AMX 13 75 version was produced until 1966.). It served with the French Army and was exported to over twenty-five other nations. Named after its initial weight of 13 tonnes, and featuring a tough and reliable chassis, it was fitted with an oscillating turret built by GIAT Industries (now Nexter) with revolver type magazines which was also used on the Austrian SK-105 Kürassier. Including prototypes and export versions there are over a hundred variants including self-propelled gun, anti-aircraft systems, APCs, and ATGM versions. Sporting a modified version of the Panther's 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 gun with dual 6 round autoloading magazines, it allowed a quick succession of shots. However, it could not be reloaded from within the vehicle and required disengaging from contact, finding cover for the crew to dismount and reload, then re-engaging the enemy. Total production of the AMX-13 family is approximately 7,700 units, around 3,400 of which were exported.

Tibits - The turret of the AMX 13 75 was mounted onto some Shermans to help augment their firepower

Design and Features

The tank was designed at the Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux in 1946 to meet a requirement for an air-portable vehicle to support paratroopers, the first prototype ran from 1948. The compact chassis had torsion bar suspension with five road-wheels and two return rollers; the engine runs the length of the tank on the right side with the driver on the left. It features an uncommon two-part oscillating turret where the gun is fixed to the turret and the entire upper turret changes elevation. The turret is set to the rear of the vehicle and holds the commander and gunner. The original 75 mm gun, allegedly modelled on the German 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 gun (used, among others, in the Panther tank) but firing very different ammunition from a shorter barrel, was fed with an automatic loading system in two six-round magazines located in the turret's bustle. The twelve rounds available in the loaders meant that the crew could engage targets quickly, however once those rounds were expended the vehicle had to retreat to cover and the crew reload them from outside the vehicle. Production began at ARE (Atelier de Construction Roanne) from 1952, with the first tanks delivered the following year. In 1964 production was transferred to Creusot-Loire at Chalon-sur-Saône, as the ARE moved to building the AMX 30 MBT, and the numbers produced declined significantly.

Additional Characteristics

  • Ground clearance: 370 mm (15 in)
  • Fording: 600 mm (24 in)
  • Vertical obstacle 650 mm (26 in)
  • Trench: 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)
  • Gradient 60%
  • Side slope: 60%
  • NBC system: None
  • Night vision: Optional


Historical Gallery

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