Type 58
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? | |Bootleg [[Tank:R07_T-34-85|T-34-85]] from China, | + | |Bootleg [[Tank:R07_T-34-85|T-34-85]] from China, it shares similarity to its bootleg predecessor. It only has 2 guns that don't make much difference. Useless when bottom tier, and its modules can get damaged often. But many characteristic are ripped from T-34-85 and it still makes it a capable opponent to face in tier 6 match. | |
|InTheGame_pros= | |InTheGame_pros= | |||
? | - | + | -''See [[T-34-85]] for more detail; only differences are listed here'' | |
? | + | * Marginally better agility due to lower terrain resistance and better traverse speed | ||
? | + | * High RoF to compensate for its worse alpha damage, also carries more shell | ||
? | + | * Higher HP pool | ||
? | + | * Higher view range | ||
|InTheGame_cons= | |InTheGame_cons= | |||
? | + | * Gun depression is worse than on the T-34-85 by -2°; accuracy, penetration and shell velocity are all worse too. | ||
? | + | * The top gun is practically still the same but a bit more accurate, barely an improvement. | ||
? | - | + | * Way weaker engines than the T-34-85, takes long to accelerate. | |
? | + | * Worse armor layout, including an extra cupola, less reliable gun mantlet and no tracks mounted on glacis | ||
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|InTheGame_performance= | |InTheGame_performance= | |||
? | Probably one of the worst tier 6 mediums due to less potential in various battles, one of the strongest points of the Type 58 is its | + | Probably one of the worst tier 6 mediums due to less potential in various battles, one of the strongest points of the Type 58 is its adequate stock grind. Whereas other mediums in stock configuration must deal with subpar weapons, the Type 58 starts with an 85mm that is identical to its top gun in damage, ROF and aim time. Its engine is only 20hp weaker than the top engine, and its stock tracks are more maneuverable than its Russian counterpart's fully upgraded tracks. As such, the Type 58 in stock performs largely the same as its fully upgraded configuration, a blessing and a curse. Be aware that the stock gun, while packing good alpha, is inaccurate and has a tendency to shoot into the corners of the reticule. Your armor, while surprisingly bouncy at times, will suffer if it comes into contact with the 122mm guns of the IS series, so never rely on your armor to protect you. Be aware of the limitations of your dismal gun depression, which prevent you from assuming hull down and makes it unsafe to climb hills. Compared to it's Soviet counterpart, the T-34-85, the Type 58 trades 16 less penetration, 20 less alpha damege, much shell velocity and .01 accuracy for better agility and ROF. With the same 128 penetration as the M4A3E8, it should be played like one. Flank enemy heavies when possible and put your high DPM to good use. Its high DPM also gives you an edge while dueling with other tier 6 medium tanks. | |
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+ | One option is to carry a decent supply of High Explosive ammunition. While the 85mm 56-85JT cannon is no howitzer and these shells will rarely if ever penetrate for full damage, 43 penetration with 280 damage is on par with the HE shells of the [[Tiger I]], and you have a higher rate of fire. Use these shells to detrack enemies, knock out modules, kill crew, and generally cause grief to enemies you might not be able to kill directly. With 60 rounds of ammunition on board, you will not be hurting for spare ammo capacity the way you might in a [[T-34-85]]. | |||
|InTheGame_research= | |InTheGame_research= | |||
? | The Type 58 in its stock configuration performs largely the same as its fully upgraded configuration, so there is really no way to go wrong here. First research the tracks to make the most of your maneuverability. The gun comes next, adding much-needed | + | The Type 58 in its stock configuration performs largely the same as its fully upgraded configuration, so there is really no way to go wrong here. First research the tracks to make the most of your maneuverability. The gun comes next, adding much-needed accuracy to an otherwise robust gun. The radio will allow you to properly fulfill your role as a flanker, so research that next. The middle engine adds no HP and only reduces the likelihood of fire, while the top engine adds an underwhelming 20 hp. However, the top engine is also the top engine on T-34-1, and researching the engines on the Type 58 circumvents the need to use the even more inadequate stock engine on the T-34-1. | |
? | If you are going up the chinese | + | If you are going up the chinese medium tank line, the 85mm 56-85JT is required for researching and mounting the next 2 tanks' top turrets and also guns. It is '''highly''' recommended to research and grind this tank if you are planning to go up the chinese medium tank line. | |
|InTheGame_equipment=Improved Ventilation Class 2,Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer | |InTheGame_equipment=Improved Ventilation Class 2,Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer |
Revision as of 02:01, 8 May 2019
Type 58
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[Client Values; Actual values in
920,000 Cost |
860180 HP Hit Points |
32.18/32.518.55/35 t Weight Limit |
- Commander
- Gunner
- Driver
- Radio Operator
- Loader
500520 hp Engine Power |
55/20 km/h Speed Limit |
4042 deg/s Traverse |
15.5428.03 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
NoNo Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
90/75/5290/75/52 mm Turret Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
109/2800/98
109/2800/98 Shell Cost |
160/160/280160/160/280 HP Damage |
126/167/43144/172/43 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
12 r/m Standard Gun ▲
12.5 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲
1920 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
▲
2000 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.42 m With 50% Crew: 0.52 m ▲
0.36 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.446 m |
s 2.3 s 2 Aim time |
4648 deg/s Turret Traverse |
360° Gun Arc |
-5°/+22°-5°/+22° Elevation Arc |
6060 rounds Ammo Capacity |
1512 % Chance of Fire |
m 360 m 370 View Range |
m 325 m 525 Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 14.3%
- When Moving: 10.6%
- When Firing: 3.7%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 0.96
- On Medium Ground: 1.06
- On Soft Ground: 1.82
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.12
- Shot Recoil: 3.84
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.21
- Turning: 0.21
With 100% Crew
VI
920000
The Type 58 is a Chinese tier 6 medium tank.
The U.S.S.R. exported a total of 1,800 T-34-76 and T-34-85 tanks to China. In 1954 the Chinese government made the decision to begin domestic production of the T-34-85 in 1958, with the new vehicle designated the Type 58. However, production was never initiated, and the Chinese army settled for modifications to the Soviet-made T-34s.
Bootleg T-34-85 from China, it shares similarity to its bootleg predecessor. It only has 2 guns that don't make much difference. Useless when bottom tier, and its modules can get damaged often. But many characteristic are ripped from T-34-85 and it still makes it a capable opponent to face in tier 6 match.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
VIII | 12150L | 520 | 12 | 750 | 48000 | |
VII | Type 102S1 | 500 | 12 | 750 | 38000 | |
VI | V-2-34 | 500 | 15 | 750 | 27860 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
V | T-34-85 | 32.5 | 40 | B/2 | 7800 | 7730 | |
VI | Type 58 | 35 | 42 | B/2 | 7800 | 15600 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
-See T-34-85 for more detail; only differences are listed here
- Marginally better agility due to lower terrain resistance and better traverse speed
- High RoF to compensate for its worse alpha damage, also carries more shell
- Higher HP pool
- Higher view range
Cons:
- Gun depression is worse than on the T-34-85 by -2°; accuracy, penetration and shell velocity are all worse too.
- The top gun is practically still the same but a bit more accurate, barely an improvement.
- Way weaker engines than the T-34-85, takes long to accelerate.
- Worse armor layout, including an extra cupola, less reliable gun mantlet and no tracks mounted on glacis
Performance
Probably one of the worst tier 6 mediums due to less potential in various battles, one of the strongest points of the Type 58 is its adequate stock grind. Whereas other mediums in stock configuration must deal with subpar weapons, the Type 58 starts with an 85mm that is identical to its top gun in damage, ROF and aim time. Its engine is only 20hp weaker than the top engine, and its stock tracks are more maneuverable than its Russian counterpart's fully upgraded tracks. As such, the Type 58 in stock performs largely the same as its fully upgraded configuration, a blessing and a curse. Be aware that the stock gun, while packing good alpha, is inaccurate and has a tendency to shoot into the corners of the reticule. Your armor, while surprisingly bouncy at times, will suffer if it comes into contact with the 122mm guns of the IS series, so never rely on your armor to protect you. Be aware of the limitations of your dismal gun depression, which prevent you from assuming hull down and makes it unsafe to climb hills. Compared to it's Soviet counterpart, the T-34-85, the Type 58 trades 16 less penetration, 20 less alpha damege, much shell velocity and .01 accuracy for better agility and ROF. With the same 128 penetration as the M4A3E8, it should be played like one. Flank enemy heavies when possible and put your high DPM to good use. Its high DPM also gives you an edge while dueling with other tier 6 medium tanks.
One option is to carry a decent supply of High Explosive ammunition. While the 85mm 56-85JT cannon is no howitzer and these shells will rarely if ever penetrate for full damage, 43 penetration with 280 damage is on par with the HE shells of the Tiger I, and you have a higher rate of fire. Use these shells to detrack enemies, knock out modules, kill crew, and generally cause grief to enemies you might not be able to kill directly. With 60 rounds of ammunition on board, you will not be hurting for spare ammo capacity the way you might in a T-34-85.
Early Research
The Type 58 in its stock configuration performs largely the same as its fully upgraded configuration, so there is really no way to go wrong here. First research the tracks to make the most of your maneuverability. The gun comes next, adding much-needed accuracy to an otherwise robust gun. The radio will allow you to properly fulfill your role as a flanker, so research that next. The middle engine adds no HP and only reduces the likelihood of fire, while the top engine adds an underwhelming 20 hp. However, the top engine is also the top engine on T-34-1, and researching the engines on the Type 58 circumvents the need to use the even more inadequate stock engine on the T-34-1. If you are going up the chinese medium tank line, the 85mm 56-85JT is required for researching and mounting the next 2 tanks' top turrets and also guns. It is highly recommended to research and grind this tank if you are planning to go up the chinese medium tank line.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
Historical Gallery
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Self-Propelled Artillery |