AMX M4 mle. 45
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? | |The AMX M4 45 can be considered an evolution of its predecessor play-style. It uses the same guns as the [[ARL 44]], which are less outstanding for its tier, but with improved rate of fire, accuracy, and aim time. Although the M4 45 sports better track protection, its overall armor is weaker than the ARL 44's, and very poor for its tier. However, it receives fairly good mobility for a heavy tank in exchange, and is fairly effective in a supporting role, setting the pattern for future French heavy tanks. | + | |The AMX M4 45 can be considered an evolution of its predecessor play-style. It uses the same guns as the [[ARL 44]], which are less outstanding for its tier, but with improved rate of fire, accuracy, and aim time. Although the M4 45 sports better track protection, its overall armor is weaker than the ARL 44's, and very poor for its tier. However, it receives fairly good mobility for a heavy tank in exchange, and is fairly effective in a supporting role, setting the pattern for future French heavy tanks. it lacks significant firepower, trading DPM for penetration, OR trading penetration and dpm for alpha. | |
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* Great choice of guns, excellent AP/APCR penetration with the 90 mm DCA 45 | * Great choice of guns, excellent AP/APCR penetration with the 90 mm DCA 45 | |||
* Great gun depression (10 degrees only on the front 160 degree arc, none on the sides and rear) | * Great gun depression (10 degrees only on the front 160 degree arc, none on the sides and rear) | |||
? | * Rounded frontal turret armour with acceptable thickness | + | * Rounded frontal turret armour with acceptable thickness, whhich is goold for bouncing OP af guns (122mm) | |
* Good overall mobility for a heavy tan with high HP ratio | * Good overall mobility for a heavy tan with high HP ratio | |||
* Easy stock grind; all guns carry over from ARL 44 | * Easy stock grind; all guns carry over from ARL 44 | |||
? | + | * Retard- proof turret armour that decided to bounce whenever it sees fit. | ||
|InTheGame_cons= | |InTheGame_cons= | |||
* Limited frontal armour, along with atrocious side and rear armour vulnerable to overmatch by 120mm shells | * Limited frontal armour, along with atrocious side and rear armour vulnerable to overmatch by 120mm shells | |||
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* Large silhouette and bad camo rating | * Large silhouette and bad camo rating | |||
* Low top speed (35km/h) somewhat detracts from its mobility | * Low top speed (35km/h) somewhat detracts from its mobility | |||
? | * Limited view range (still | + | * Limited view range (still better than IS) | |
+ | * Combination of bad armour, bad gun, makes only the looks look good. | |||
+ | * Brain damaged designers took the design off the Tiger II, but give it the armour of a Panzer IC. | |||
|InTheGame_performance= | |InTheGame_performance= | |||
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The 90 mm DCA 45, 90 mm F3, and 105 mm Canon 13TR were previously also available on the ARL 44, and on the M4 1945 receive generally better characteristics. However, with the tougher opposition faced by the M4 45, APCR will be needed with the latter two guns. The DCA 45's outstanding penetration is generally sufficient with AP, even at Tier 7. | The 90 mm DCA 45, 90 mm F3, and 105 mm Canon 13TR were previously also available on the ARL 44, and on the M4 1945 receive generally better characteristics. However, with the tougher opposition faced by the M4 45, APCR will be needed with the latter two guns. The DCA 45's outstanding penetration is generally sufficient with AP, even at Tier 7. | |||
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+ | The nightmare tank in the game, due to fucking shitty tier 3's being able to punch through your frontal lower plate makes this tank horrible. | |||
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+ | The AMX M4 45 is considered to be the '''''worst tank''''' at tier 7. All of it's statistics make it a ball of shit, with the only redeeming feature being it's baseline penetration, and the decent mobility. However, this tank has modules that are comparable to butter. A good M4 45 driver needs to know when he can finish off an enemy without attracting fire. ( Any shot is guaranteed to cause major damage to modules/crew. In short a driver needs t know when he can silently finish off the enemy, or fuck off. This tank is hated dearly for it's inability to sustain hits like it's look like model, the Tiger II can. | |||
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+ | However, it has 90 milimetres of sloped armour, which is at a greater effectiveness than it's Nazi brethren, the Tiger I. | |||
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+ | Major enemies you will need to watch out for are Derping fags. These players can be from "I pley 4 phun potatoes", all the way to unicum advanced players. They can cause massive damage to your tank, internally, and externally. | |||
With its powerful engine, the M4 45 is fairly mobile for a heavy tank, although the poor top speed and reverse speed can be disappointing, especially with its poor armour. The turret is somewhat stronger than the ARL 44's, but the hull is significantly weaker. Artillery is very dangerous for the M4 45, although the good gun depression and decent mobility go a long way towards helping limit its exposure in combat. | With its powerful engine, the M4 45 is fairly mobile for a heavy tank, although the poor top speed and reverse speed can be disappointing, especially with its poor armour. The turret is somewhat stronger than the ARL 44's, but the hull is significantly weaker. Artillery is very dangerous for the M4 45, although the good gun depression and decent mobility go a long way towards helping limit its exposure in combat. | |||
|InTheGame_research= | |InTheGame_research= | |||
? | *As stock, you should be able to equip the first engine upgrade, the radio, the 90mm F3 and/or the 105 mm Canon 13TR, as they were available on the ARL 44. | + | *As stock, you should be able to equip the first engine upgrade, the radio, the 90mm F3 and/or the 105 mm Canon 13TR, as they were available on the ARL 44. | |
? | *a) Research the suspension. | + | *a) Research the suspension, as it will improve terrain passability. | |
? | *b) Skip researching the suspension and equip Enhanced Springs | + | *b) Skip researching the suspension and equip Enhanced Springs | |
? | *Research and equip the turret. | + | *Research and equip the turret, as you cannot mount the gun with 212mm of pen. | |
*Research or just mount the 90mm DCA 45 (if previously researched from the ARL 44). | *Research or just mount the 90mm DCA 45 (if previously researched from the ARL 44). | |||
*Research the engine(s). | *Research the engine(s). | |||
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|History= | |History= | |||
? | Despite having one of the largest tank forces in the world (second only to the USSR), the end of World War II saw French Army left with no modern heavy tanks comparable to those of Germany, the other major Allied powers, or the USSR. The most modern and capable tank available was the ARL 44, which had been developed secretly during the German occupation, but it was realized that the design itself was obsolete and could hardly be compared to contemporary heavy tanks. Thus, in March 1945, the French industry was invited to submit proposals for a modern heavy tank. One of the companies to submit a proposal was AMX (''Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux'') with the ''Projet 141'' (Project 141), which proposed to build a heavy tank armed with the same 90 mm DCA 45 as the ARL 44, known as the '''M 4'''. | + | Despite having one of the largest tank forces in the world (second only to the USSR), the end of World War II saw French Army left with no modern heavy tanks comparable to those of Germany, the other major Allied powers, or the USSR. The general in charge of the defense of France believed that one skim fucking line rather than entire divisions, out of the few they had to dedicate to the borders, instead of a fucking maginot line, that got flanked, fucked, and forgotten within the second world war. The most modern and capable tank available was the ARL 44, which had been developed secretly during the German occupation, but it was realized that the design itself was obsolete and could hardly be compared to contemporary heavy tanks. Thus, in March 1945, the French industry was invited to submit proposals for a modern heavy tank. One of the companies to submit a proposal was AMX (''Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux'') with the ''Projet 141'' (Project 141), which proposed to build a heavy tank armed with the same 90 mm DCA 45 as the ARL 44, known as the '''M 4'''. | |
The M 4 externally resembled the famous German ''Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. B'' (better known as the "King Tiger") heavy tank, but in order to limit the weight to the desired 30 metric tonnes, the M 4 was considerably smaller, and had a maximum armor thickness of just 30 mm. The French engineers also elected to copy the overlapping road wheels that characterized German tanks designs of the latter half of the war, even though the principal motivation behind the Germans using this was because of the shortage of high-quality rubber. This required large road wheels to lower tire tension, and the overlapping design helped better distribute the weight of the tank. France had no such problems, thus making this feature superfluous, in addition to being quite maintenance-heavy. Part of the M 4 project was also to study the feasibility of using leaf or coil springs instead of a modern torsion bar suspension in order to achieve a lower vehicle height (by 10 cm). | The M 4 externally resembled the famous German ''Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. B'' (better known as the "King Tiger") heavy tank, but in order to limit the weight to the desired 30 metric tonnes, the M 4 was considerably smaller, and had a maximum armor thickness of just 30 mm. The French engineers also elected to copy the overlapping road wheels that characterized German tanks designs of the latter half of the war, even though the principal motivation behind the Germans using this was because of the shortage of high-quality rubber. This required large road wheels to lower tire tension, and the overlapping design helped better distribute the weight of the tank. France had no such problems, thus making this feature superfluous, in addition to being quite maintenance-heavy. Part of the M 4 project was also to study the feasibility of using leaf or coil springs instead of a modern torsion bar suspension in order to achieve a lower vehicle height (by 10 cm). | |||
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The French Army ordered two M 4 prototypes, but quickly decided that 30 mm of armor was unacceptably thin for a modern tank. In response, the armor thickness was increased. Eventually, it was decided that a new oscillating turret designed by FAMH would be fitted instead of the originally-proposed welded conventional turret, and the first prototype was delivered under the designation AMX 50. | The French Army ordered two M 4 prototypes, but quickly decided that 30 mm of armor was unacceptably thin for a modern tank. In response, the armor thickness was increased. Eventually, it was decided that a new oscillating turret designed by FAMH would be fitted instead of the originally-proposed welded conventional turret, and the first prototype was delivered under the designation AMX 50. | |||
? | The AMX M 4 ingame depicts the originally-proposed M 4 tank. No prototypes under the original M 4 specification were ever produced. | + | The AMX M 4 ingame depicts the originally-proposed M 4 tank. No prototypes under the original M 4 specification were ever produced, as they were replaced by the AMX 50's and 30's. | |
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AMX M4 mle. 45
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[Client Values; Actual values in
1,395,000 Cost |
1360280 HP Hit Points |
52.15/5318.28/60 t Weight Limit |
- Commander
- Gunner
- Driver
- Radio Operator
- Loader
575850 hp Engine Power |
35/12 km/h Speed Limit |
2224 deg/s Traverse |
11.0346.5 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
NoNo Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
110/30/30200/70/40 mm Turret Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
255/4800/255
255/4800/255 Shell Cost |
240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage |
135/175/45212/259/45 mm Penetration |
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7.89 r/m Standard Gun ▲
6.98 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
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Standard Gun
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Standard Gun
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1893.6 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
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Standard Gun
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1675.2 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.4 m With 50% Crew: 0.496 m ▲
0.36 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.446 m |
s 2.3 s 2.5 Aim time |
3230 deg/s Turret Traverse |
360° Gun Arc |
-10°/+14°-10°/+12° Elevation Arc |
9074 rounds Ammo Capacity |
2020 % Chance of Fire |
m 330 m 360 View Range |
m 400 m 750 Signal Range |
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The AMX M4 mle. 45 is a French tier 7 heavy tank.
Development of this heavy tank started in 1945. The vehicle incorporated several design features of the Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B Tiger II tank. The vehicle existed only in blueprints. Later the AMX M4 (1945) became a prototype for the AMX 50 100.
The AMX M4 45 can be considered an evolution of its predecessor play-style. It uses the same guns as the ARL 44, which are less outstanding for its tier, but with improved rate of fire, accuracy, and aim time. Although the M4 45 sports better track protection, its overall armor is weaker than the ARL 44's, and very poor for its tier. However, it receives fairly good mobility for a heavy tank in exchange, and is fairly effective in a supporting role, setting the pattern for future French heavy tanks. it lacks significant firepower, trading DPM for penetration, OR trading penetration and dpm for alpha.
The AMX M4 mle. 45 leads to the AMX 50 100, and the AMX 65 t.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VI | Maybach HL 230 | 575 | 20 | 700 | 26000 | |
VIII | Maybach HL 230 P45F | 750 | 20 | 750 | 55000 | |
IX | Maybach HL 295 | 850 | 20 | 750 | 78000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VI | AMX M4 mle. 45 | 53 | 22 | B/2 | 8000 | 9550 | |
VII | AMX M4 mle. 45 bis | 60 | 24 | B/2 | 8000 | 18500 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Great choice of guns, excellent AP/APCR penetration with the 90 mm DCA 45
- Great gun depression (10 degrees only on the front 160 degree arc, none on the sides and rear)
- Rounded frontal turret armour with acceptable thickness, whhich is goold for bouncing OP af guns (122mm)
- Good overall mobility for a heavy tan with high HP ratio
- Easy stock grind; all guns carry over from ARL 44
Cons:
- Limited frontal armour, along with atrocious side and rear armour vulnerable to overmatch by 120mm shells
- Average alpha, underwhelming rate-of-fire, long aim time and bad dispersion values with the 90 mm DCA 45
- Large silhouette and bad camo rating
- Low top speed (35km/h) somewhat detracts from its mobility
- Limited view range (still better than IS)
Performance
The M4 45 plays similarly to its peer, the Pz.Kpfw. VI Tiger. Compared to the Tiger, it receives slightly better frontal armor, somewhat more powerful guns, better gun depression, and a better power-to-weight ratio in exchange for much worse side and rear armor, generally poorer soft statistics like rate-of-fire, terrain resistance and gun dispersion, and a much lower health pool. Therefore, it is very important to avoid taking fire at all times and to a greater extent, avoid being spotted. The AMX M4 45 must make the most out of its improved cannon to stay competitive on the battlefield. Furthermore, getting used to poor armor and assuming a supporting sniper role will help very much in preparing players for the AMX 50 100 and the similar vehicles that follow it.
The 90 mm DCA 45, 90 mm F3, and 105 mm Canon 13TR were previously also available on the ARL 44, and on the M4 1945 receive generally better characteristics. However, with the tougher opposition faced by the M4 45, APCR will be needed with the latter two guns. The DCA 45's outstanding penetration is generally sufficient with AP, even at Tier 7.
The nightmare tank in the game, due to fucking shitty tier 3's being able to punch through your frontal lower plate makes this tank horrible.
The AMX M4 45 is considered to be the worst tank at tier 7. All of it's statistics make it a ball of shit, with the only redeeming feature being it's baseline penetration, and the decent mobility. However, this tank has modules that are comparable to butter. A good M4 45 driver needs to know when he can finish off an enemy without attracting fire. ( Any shot is guaranteed to cause major damage to modules/crew. In short a driver needs t know when he can silently finish off the enemy, or fuck off. This tank is hated dearly for it's inability to sustain hits like it's look like model, the Tiger II can.
However, it has 90 milimetres of sloped armour, which is at a greater effectiveness than it's Nazi brethren, the Tiger I.
Major enemies you will need to watch out for are Derping fags. These players can be from "I pley 4 phun potatoes", all the way to unicum advanced players. They can cause massive damage to your tank, internally, and externally.
With its powerful engine, the M4 45 is fairly mobile for a heavy tank, although the poor top speed and reverse speed can be disappointing, especially with its poor armour. The turret is somewhat stronger than the ARL 44's, but the hull is significantly weaker. Artillery is very dangerous for the M4 45, although the good gun depression and decent mobility go a long way towards helping limit its exposure in combat.
Early Research
- As stock, you should be able to equip the first engine upgrade, the radio, the 90mm F3 and/or the 105 mm Canon 13TR, as they were available on the ARL 44.
- a) Research the suspension, as it will improve terrain passability.
- b) Skip researching the suspension and equip Enhanced Springs
- Research and equip the turret, as you cannot mount the gun with 212mm of pen.
- Research or just mount the 90mm DCA 45 (if previously researched from the ARL 44).
- Research the engine(s).
- Finally, research the radio if you hadn't previously done so.
- Go from there.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
The M 4 externally resembled the famous German Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. B (better known as the "King Tiger") heavy tank, but in order to limit the weight to the desired 30 metric tonnes, the M 4 was considerably smaller, and had a maximum armor thickness of just 30 mm. The French engineers also elected to copy the overlapping road wheels that characterized German tanks designs of the latter half of the war, even though the principal motivation behind the Germans using this was because of the shortage of high-quality rubber. This required large road wheels to lower tire tension, and the overlapping design helped better distribute the weight of the tank. France had no such problems, thus making this feature superfluous, in addition to being quite maintenance-heavy. Part of the M 4 project was also to study the feasibility of using leaf or coil springs instead of a modern torsion bar suspension in order to achieve a lower vehicle height (by 10 cm).
The French Army ordered two M 4 prototypes, but quickly decided that 30 mm of armor was unacceptably thin for a modern tank. In response, the armor thickness was increased. Eventually, it was decided that a new oscillating turret designed by FAMH would be fitted instead of the originally-proposed welded conventional turret, and the first prototype was delivered under the designation AMX 50.
The AMX M 4 ingame depicts the originally-proposed M 4 tank. No prototypes under the original M 4 specification were ever produced, as they were replaced by the AMX 50's and 30's.