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AMX M4 mle. 45

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France | Heavy Tank | Tier VII
Battle Tier
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1,395,000  Credits Cost
1360280 HP Hit Points
52.15/5318.28/60 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Radio Operator
  5. Loader
Mobility
575850 hp Engine Power
35/12 km/h Speed Limit
2224 deg/s Traverse
11.0346.5 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
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110/30/30200/70/40 mm Turret Armor
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240/240/320240/240/320 HP Damage
135/175/45212/259/45 mm Penetration



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7.89 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.6 s
50% Crew: 9.41 s
75% Crew: 8.22 s
100% Crew: 7.29 s
Rammer: 6.56 s
Vents: 7.13 s
Both: 6.42 s
Both and BiA: 6.28 s
Both and Max Crew %: 6.02 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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6.98 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 8.6 s
50% Crew: 10.65 s
75% Crew: 9.3 s
100% Crew: 8.25 s
Rammer: 7.43 s
Vents: 8.07 s
Both: 7.26 s
Both and BiA: 7.1 s
Both and Max Crew %: 6.81 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
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1893.6
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1893.6
50% Crew: 1528.8
75% Crew: 1749.6
100% Crew: 1975.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2020.8
Rammer: 2193.6
Both: 2244
Both and BiA: 2294.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2392.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2133.6
50% Crew: 1768.8
75% Crew: 1989.6
100% Crew: 2215.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2433.6
Vents: 2260.8
Both: 2484
Both and BiA: 2534.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2632.8

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1893.6
50% Crew: 1528.8
75% Crew: 1749.6
100% Crew: 1975.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2020.8
Rammer: 2193.6
Both: 2244
Both and BiA: 2294.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2392.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2133.6
50% Crew: 1768.8
75% Crew: 1989.6
100% Crew: 2215.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2433.6
Vents: 2260.8
Both: 2484
Both and BiA: 2534.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2632.8

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2524.8
50% Crew: 2038.4
75% Crew: 2332.8
100% Crew: 2633.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2694.4
Rammer: 2924.8
Both: 2992
Both and BiA: 3059.2
Both and Max Crew %: 3190.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2844.8
50% Crew: 2358.4
75% Crew: 2652.8
100% Crew: 2953.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 3244.8
Vents: 3014.4
Both: 3312
Both and BiA: 3379.2
Both and Max Crew %: 3510.4

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1675.2
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1675.2
50% Crew: 1351.2
75% Crew: 1548
100% Crew: 1747.2
100% Crew
Vents: 1785.6
Rammer: 1941.6
Both: 1984.8
Both and BiA: 2028
Both and Max Crew %: 2116.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1915.2
50% Crew: 1591.2
75% Crew: 1788
100% Crew: 1987.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2181.6
Vents: 2025.6
Both: 2224.8
Both and BiA: 2268
Both and Max Crew %: 2356.8

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1675.2
50% Crew: 1351.2
75% Crew: 1548
100% Crew: 1747.2
100% Crew
Vents: 1785.6
Rammer: 1941.6
Both: 1984.8
Both and BiA: 2028
Both and Max Crew %: 2116.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1915.2
50% Crew: 1591.2
75% Crew: 1788
100% Crew: 1987.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2181.6
Vents: 2025.6
Both: 2224.8
Both and BiA: 2268
Both and Max Crew %: 2356.8

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2233.6
50% Crew: 1801.6
75% Crew: 2064
100% Crew: 2329.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2380.8
Rammer: 2588.8
Both: 2646.4
Both and BiA: 2704
Both and Max Crew %: 2822.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2553.6
50% Crew: 2121.6
75% Crew: 2384
100% Crew: 2649.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 2908.8
Vents: 2700.8
Both: 2966.4
Both and BiA: 3024
Both and Max Crew %: 3142.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
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0.4 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.496 m
With 75% Crew: 0.433 m
With 100% Crew: 0.384 m
With BiA: 0.375 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.367 m
Maximum possible: 0.352 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.36 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 
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With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.5 s 
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With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
 Aim time
3230 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-10°/+14°-10°/+12° Elevation Arc
9074 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






330 m 
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With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






360 m 
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With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
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400 m 
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With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 
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With 50% Crew: 605.4 m
With 75% Crew: 693.4 m
With 100% Crew: 782.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1125.9 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 Signal Range
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ARL 44
AMX M4 mle. 45
AMX 50 100AMX 65 t


VII

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1395000

The AMX M4 mle. 45 is a French tier 7 heavy tank.

Development of this heavy tank started in 1945. The vehicle incorporated several design features of the Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B Tiger II tank. The vehicle existed only in blueprints. Later the AMX M4 (1945) became a prototype for the AMX 50 100.

The AMX M4 45 can be considered an evolution of its predecessor play-style. It uses the same cannon as the ARL 44, which is less outstanding for its tier on a Tier 7 tank, but with improved rate of fire, accuracy, and aiming speed. Although the M4 45 sports proper track defense, its armor is weaker than the ARL's, very poor for its tier, and receives full damage from arty and HE shells. However, the M4 45 makes up for its lack of armor with its mobility, good gun, and high effectiveness in a supporting role.

The AMX M4 mle. 45 leads to the AMX 50 100, and the AMX 65 t.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VII 90 mm DCA 30 135/175/45 240/240/320 8.22 0.4 2.3 2050 64000
VII 105 mm Canon 13TR 175/223/54 300/330/360 6.25 0.41 2.7 2400 94350
VII 90 mm F3 170/248/45 240/240/320 7.5 0.38 2.3 2200 87000
VIII 90 mm DCA 45 212/259/45 240/240/320 6.98 0.36 2.5 2750 121250

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VI Maybach HL 230 575 20 700 26000
VIII Maybach HL 230 P45F 750 20 750 55000
IX Maybach HL 295 850 20 750 78000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VI AMX M4 mle. 45 53 22 B/2 8000 9550
VII AMX M4 mle. 45 bis 60 24 B/2 8000 18500

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 2 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Excellent penetration and high accuracy with 90 mm DCA 45 (Highest penetration value of all tier 7 heavies at 212)
  • Great gun depression (only on the front)
  • Good mobility
  • Good gun accuracy on the move
  • Commander's cupola actually a strong point


Cons:


  • Very weak overall armor
  • Takes full damage from arty shells
  • Lowest hitpoints of all tier 7 heavies
  • Average alpha and long aiming time with the 90 mm DCA 45 (almost 3 whole seconds)
  • Low DPM for 90mm DCA 45


Performance

The M4 45 plays much like its peer, the Pz.Kpfw. VI Tiger. It has poor armor on all sides, including the turret, poor agility and a relatively small hitpoints pool. Therefore, it's very important to avoid taking fire at all times and to a greater extent, avoid being spotted. The AMX M4 45 must make the most out of its improved cannon to stay competitive on the battlefield. Furthermore, getting used to poor armor and assuming a supporting sniper role will help very much in preparing players for the AMX 50 100 and the similar vehicles that follow it. The 90mm cannon on the M4 1945 should feel comfortable as it boasts good penetration and decent all-around stats.

Don't discount the 105mm gun as well. Although low penetration, this issue can be remedied by premium rounds. If using premium rounds, this gun has an amazing DPM value for its tier, and will prove to be a terror to the enemy.

Many players consider the AMX M4 45 to be a significant downgrade from the ARL 44 though it is good training for the play style of the AMX 50 100.


Early Research

  • As stock, you should be able to equip the first engine upgrade, the radio, the 90mm F3 and/or the 105 mm Canon 13TR, as they were available on the ARL 44.
  • a) Research the suspension.
  • b) Skip researching the suspension and equip Enhanced Springs.
  • Research and equip the turret.
  • Research or just mount the 90mm DCA 45 (if previously researched from the ARL 44).
  • Research the engine(s).
  • Finally, research the radio if you hadn't previously done so.
  • Go from there.


Suggested Equipment


Large-caliber Tank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Improved Ventilation Class 3Camouflage Net Binocular Telescope 


Gallery

Historical Info

Despite having one of the largest tank forces in the world (second only to the USSR), the end of World War II saw French Army left with no modern heavy tanks comparable to those of Germany, the other major Allied powers, or the USSR. The most modern and capable tank available was the ARL 44, which had been developed secretly during the German occupation, but it was realized that the design itself was obsolete and could hardly be compared to contemporary heavy tanks. Thus, in March 1945, the French industry was invited to submit proposals for a modern heavy tank. One of the companies to submit a proposal was AMX (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux) with the Projet 141 (Project 141), which proposed to build a heavy tank armed with the same 90 mm DCA 45 as the ARL 44, known as the M 4.

The M 4 externally resembled the famous German Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf. B (better known as the "King Tiger") heavy tank, but in order to limit the weight to the desired 30 metric tonnes, the M 4 was considerably smaller, and had a maximum armor thickness of just 30 mm. The French engineers also elected to copy the overlapping road wheels that characterized German tanks designs of the latter half of the war, even though the principal motivation behind the Germans using this was because of the shortage of high-quality rubber. This required large road wheels to lower tire tension, and the overlapping design helped better distribute the weight of the tank. France had no such problems, thus making this feature superfluous, in addition to being quite maintenance-heavy. Part of the M 4 project was also to study the feasibility of using leaf or coil springs instead of a modern torsion bar suspension in order to achieve a lower vehicle height (by 10 cm).

The French Army ordered two M 4 prototypes, but quickly decided that 30 mm of armor was unacceptably thin for a modern tank. In response, the armor thickness was increased. Eventually, it was decided that a new oscillating turret designed by FAMH would be fitted instead of the originally-proposed welded conventional turret, and the first prototype was delivered under the designation AMX 50.

The AMX M 4 ingame depicts the originally-proposed M 4 tank. No prototypes under the original M 4 specification were ever produced.


Historical Gallery

Sources and External Links

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