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 The mobility of the ELC was horrendously nerfed in 9.18 -- it lost 5kph top speed, 3 reverse, and around 10-11 hp/t. This means it is significantly slower than it used to be; however there is a way to get it to almost its old mobility. While not the most practical setup, thanks to Equipment 2.0 the ELC can mount a Turbocharger and Grousers, which, respectively, increase the top speed/horsepower and ground resistances/traverse speed. When combined with a good crew (Brothers in Arms, Off-Road Driving) and 100/105 Octane Oil, the AMX ELC bis can almost have its old mobility back. Rammer/Vertical Stabilizer/Coated Optics is still the most competitive setup, but since it has a slow reload already, Turbo or Grousers may be better than a rammer. The mobility of the ELC was horrendously nerfed in 9.18 -- it lost 5kph top speed, 3 reverse, and around 10-11 hp/t. This means it is significantly slower than it used to be; however there is a way to get it to almost its old mobility. While not the most practical setup, thanks to Equipment 2.0 the ELC can mount a Turbocharger and Grousers, which, respectively, increase the top speed/horsepower and ground resistances/traverse speed. When combined with a good crew (Brothers in Arms, Off-Road Driving) and 100/105 Octane Oil, the AMX ELC bis can almost have its old mobility back. Rammer/Vertical Stabilizer/Coated Optics is still the most competitive setup, but since it has a slow reload already, Turbo or Grousers may be better than a rammer.
  
?With a crew of just Commander and Gunner only the [[AM Gendron]] may serve as a perfect trainer for an AMX ELC bis crew.+With a crew of just Commander and Gunner only the [https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:F111_AM39_Gendron_Somua AM 39 Gendron-Somua] may serve as a perfect trainer for an AMX ELC bis crew.
  
 INTERESTING FACT: In reality the AMX ELC bis was classed as a tank destroyer, not a light tank. If you install binoculars with a camo net and/or low-noise exhaust system then you can play this tank like a fast, stealthy TD. Move quickly from place to place, take a sniping shot before disappearing, only to reappear and take a shot again. You are practically forced to do this after 9.18! INTERESTING FACT: In reality the AMX ELC bis was classed as a tank destroyer, not a light tank. If you install binoculars with a camo net and/or low-noise exhaust system then you can play this tank like a fast, stealthy TD. Move quickly from place to place, take a sniping shot before disappearing, only to reappear and take a shot again. You are practically forced to do this after 9.18!

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AMX ELC bis

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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315,000  Credits Cost
49098 HP Hit Points
6.66/7.34.31/7.95 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Gunner, Radio Operator, Loader)
  2. Driver
Mobility
150180 hp Engine Power
60/20 km/h Speed Limit
3638 deg/s Traverse
22.5241.76 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
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20/15/1020/15/10 mm Turret Armor
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Shell Cost
110/110/175240/240/320 HP Damage
74/92/38120/150/45 mm Penetration



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13.33 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4.5 s
50% Crew: 5.73 s
75% Crew: 5.04 s
100% Crew: 4.5 s
Rammer: 4.05 s
Vents: 4.4 s
Both: 3.96 s
Both and BiA: 3.88 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.72 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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4.29 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 14 s
50% Crew: 17.82 s
75% Crew: 15.68 s
100% Crew: 14 s
Rammer: 12.6 s
Vents: 13.68 s
Both: 12.31 s
Both and BiA: 12.08 s
Both and Max Crew %: 11.58 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1466.3

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1466.3
50% Crew: 1151.7
75% Crew: 1309
100% Crew: 1466.3
100% Crew
Vents: 1500.4
Rammer: 1629.1
Both: 1667.6
Both and BiA: 1699.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1772.1

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1576.3
50% Crew: 1261.7
75% Crew: 1419
100% Crew: 1576.3
100% Crew
Rammer: 1739.1
Vents: 1610.4
Both: 1777.6
Both and BiA: 1809.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1882.1

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1466.3
50% Crew: 1151.7
75% Crew: 1309
100% Crew: 1466.3
100% Crew
Vents: 1500.4
Rammer: 1629.1
Both: 1667.6
Both and BiA: 1699.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1772.1

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1576.3
50% Crew: 1261.7
75% Crew: 1419
100% Crew: 1576.3
100% Crew
Rammer: 1739.1
Vents: 1610.4
Both: 1777.6
Both and BiA: 1809.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1882.1

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2332.75
50% Crew: 1832.25
75% Crew: 2082.5
100% Crew: 2332.75
100% Crew
Vents: 2387
Rammer: 2591.75
Both: 2653
Both and BiA: 2703.75
Both and Max Crew %: 2819.25

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2507.75
50% Crew: 2007.25
75% Crew: 2257.5
100% Crew: 2507.75
100% Crew
Rammer: 2766.75
Vents: 2562
Both: 2828
Both and BiA: 2878.75
Both and Max Crew %: 2994.25

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1029.6

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1029.6
50% Crew: 808.8
75% Crew: 919.2
100% Crew: 1029.6
100% Crew
Vents: 1053.6
Rammer: 1144.8
Both: 1171.2
Both and BiA: 1192.8
Both and Max Crew %: 1245.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1269.6
50% Crew: 1048.8
75% Crew: 1159.2
100% Crew: 1269.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 1384.8
Vents: 1293.6
Both: 1411.2
Both and BiA: 1432.8
Both and Max Crew %: 1485.6

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1029.6
50% Crew: 808.8
75% Crew: 919.2
100% Crew: 1029.6
100% Crew
Vents: 1053.6
Rammer: 1144.8
Both: 1171.2
Both and BiA: 1192.8
Both and Max Crew %: 1245.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1269.6
50% Crew: 1048.8
75% Crew: 1159.2
100% Crew: 1269.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 1384.8
Vents: 1293.6
Both: 1411.2
Both and BiA: 1432.8
Both and Max Crew %: 1485.6

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1372.8
50% Crew: 1078.4
75% Crew: 1225.6
100% Crew: 1372.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1404.8
Rammer: 1526.4
Both: 1561.6
Both and BiA: 1590.4
Both and Max Crew %: 1660.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1692.8
50% Crew: 1398.4
75% Crew: 1545.6
100% Crew: 1692.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 1846.4
Vents: 1724.8
Both: 1881.6
Both and BiA: 1910.4
Both and Max Crew %: 1980.8

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.42 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.535 m
With 75% Crew: 0.47 m
With 100% Crew: 0.42 m
With BiA: 0.41 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.403 m
Maximum possible: 0.386 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.38 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.484 m
With 75% Crew: 0.426 m
With 100% Crew: 0.38 m
With BiA: 0.371 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.364 m
Maximum possible: 0.349 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.927 s
With 75% Crew: 2.576 s
With 100% Crew: 2.3 s
With GLD: 2.091 s
With BiA: 2.247 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.205 s
With both and GLD: 2.005 s
Maximum possible: 1.922 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.9 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.691 s
With 75% Crew: 3.248 s
With 100% Crew: 2.9 s
With GLD: 2.636 s
With BiA: 2.834 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.781 s
With both and GLD: 2.528 s
Maximum possible: 2.423 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
4444 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-5°/+13°-5°/+13° Elevation Arc
7044 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2015 % Chance of Fire






360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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300 m 

With 50% Crew: 235.7 m
With 75% Crew: 267.9 m
With 100% Crew: 300 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 360 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 330 m
Maximum possible: 431.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 314.3 m
With 75% Crew: 357.2 m
With 100% Crew: 400 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 575.6 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
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The AMX ELC bis is a French tier 5 light tank.

Developed from 1957 through 1961 to provide French airborne troops with an air-transportable vehicle that could engage heavy tanks. The vehicle mounted a 90-mm gun and had a very low silhouette. The two crew members were seated in the turret, which could turn through 360 degrees, but only when the vehicle was not moving. Variants with different guns were planned. Only one prototype was manufactured. The vehicle never saw service.

The ELC AMX represents a rather dramatic reversal in French tank design philosophy. While the AMX 40 and prior tanks were slow, with weak guns, and heavily armored, the ELC is fast, well armed, and lightly armored. While it has laughable armor, its mobility is mediocre after 9.18, but with its 90mm gun it still has high damage and good penetration for a Tier V light tank. Unlike most lights, however, it does not have a fully rotating turret with the 90mm mounted, making circling enemies much more difficult. When using either of the 75mm cannons the turret becomes fully rotational making circling the slower tanks easier, albeit now having lower penetration and accuracy. The AMX ELC is very light and has an okay engine, giving it acceptable acceleration, with 26.63hp/t. It usually has no problem reaching its top speed of 60km/h (however water and rubble significantly slow the AMX ELC down) and maintaining it on hard terrain (albeit ground resistances are terrible). Use your maneuverability to your advantage -- even if your turret can`t traverse all the way when using the 90mm you can still perform flanking maneuvers. Even if you survive a shot from an enemy tank your tracks and engine are easily damaged, so your duty as a scout can end very quickly if you get caught in the open.

The AMX ELC bis is preceded by the AMX 40.

The AMX ELC bis leads to the AMX 12 t, and the Panhard AMD 178B.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI 90 mm D. 915 120/150/45 240/240/320 4.29 0.38 2.9 1560 61000
IV 75 mm SA32L 74/92/38 110/110/175 13.33 0.42 2.3 1520 11000
V 75 mm SA44L 100/129/38 110/110/175 13.33 0.4 2.1 1400 27200

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IV SOFAM de 150 cv 150 20 340 700
V SOFAM de 180 cv 180 15 400 15800

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IV AMX ELC 7.3 36 B/2 1500 4200
V AMX ELC bis 7.95 38 B/2 1500 9510

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

II ER 52 300 100 0
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Vertical Stabilizer Class 2 Light Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 3 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Strong weapon hard-stats -- very high damage, respectable penetration, and decent fully-aimed accuracy

- Very low silhouette, can stay below the enemies guns right beside them and use small terrain features as cover

- Excellent camouflage for a light tank; virtually identical to the ELC EVEN 90

- Often underestimated; good bait potential

- Respectable view range for its camouflage, at 360 meters


Cons:

- Very poor protection and HP. It takes little effort to destroy a vulnerable ELC

- Cannot fully traverse with the top gun, along with an extremely limited gun elevation/depression

- Top 75mm gun doesn't perform as well as the similar 75mm gun on the M24 Chaffee

- Poor view/signal range (but camouflage indirectly helps view range)

- Just two crew members also means it is easy to lose them before the tank itself

- Low sustained damage output, very poor accuracy while on the move and poor aim time. Also is very hard to flip right side up when overturned

- Very light weight at only eight tons. Ramming is ill-advised

- Weak acceleration. The engine is often being overloaded, struggle to maintain top speed even with Additional Grousers and Turbocharger equipped


Performance

Everything you've come to know about French tanks changes with this vehicle. You'll have to forget about the armor of the AMX 40, but for the first time you'll be able to move at high speed and use a great gun.

Its ability to flank depends on your choice of gun. Both 75mm's can fully rotate as of Patch 9.18, though low penetration seriously limits their potential and require premium ammo with side shots. The powerful derp of the 90mm gun is also limited by the excruciating aim time and slow reload. It also has a typically French poor gun depression and elevation, limiting the value as a sniping gun. The 90mm cannon in its pseudo-turret can't challenge most heavy tanks from the front as it used to, but also means that the ELC is ill-suited to challenging other light tanks in anything less than ideal conditions due to the fact the turret has worse traverse than many non-turreted TD's and even some artillery. In addition your poor radio range means you are more dependent on allies to be closer to spot, something not always possible in many of the situations an ELC gets itself into.

In all tiers active scouting is not recommended due to the extremely low durability and some of the worst mobility among scout tanks since 9.18. However, scouting could still be done in a passive way: just utilize dense flora and the outstanding camo value well. In fact the size, weight, and play style of this tank are comparable to the French Renault UE 57 tank destroyer. Keep in mind of how hard it is to hit you, as it could be useful in many situations. Be prepared to help teammates out by scouting, flanking, or drawing an enemy's attention away for an "easy kill". This tank must be coordinated with allies, let them know what you're trying to do before you do it, although you can proceed to what you need to do in hurry cases. Help allies out and the battlefield would technically be your team's turf.

Avoid opposing fast mediums or same-tier light tanks -- they have enough performance to challenge your small stature and speed, and your pseudo-turret will be of no benefit. Vehicles such as the Chaffee and the VK 16.02 Leopard will have sufficient performance to catch, chase, and destroy you. In these cases you can easily expect to get rammed and killed and -- since 9.18 -- even fast mediums like the Cromwell can now gain on you (but at least the Cromwell can't hit you easily with its gun).

Some of the most epic battles are when two ELC drivers find themselves face to face. You could compare this to a medieval jousting competition. Skill and luck are of the essence, however mounted equipment and experienced crew are welcome. Always try to get the first damaging shot; if you do, stay on the enemy’s tail and finish him; if you don’t, hit him, then try to break line of sight and finish him off after you reload. Remember, an ELC can almost always two-shot another ELC (RNG can, however, be trollish). And if you are a confident ELC driver, use your handbrake! Not only in duels but overall -- an ELC that is confident in its handbrake turns is extremely deadly.

tl;dr: The AMX ELC bis functions mostly like a mobile tank destroyer with the 90mm -- high penetration, alpha damage, and shell velocity make it have excellent hard stats, while limited by very poor DPM, aim time, and gun handling. The mobility, view range and camouflage also complement it well. The 75mm presents an alternate way to play -- far better gun handling, DPM, and a full turret make it more reliable -- however it loses the sheer punch, penetration, and velocity that the 90mm gains, leaving the 75mm as a way to have a somewhat inferior Chaffee.

The mobility of the ELC was horrendously nerfed in 9.18 -- it lost 5kph top speed, 3 reverse, and around 10-11 hp/t. This means it is significantly slower than it used to be; however there is a way to get it to almost its old mobility. While not the most practical setup, thanks to Equipment 2.0 the ELC can mount a Turbocharger and Grousers, which, respectively, increase the top speed/horsepower and ground resistances/traverse speed. When combined with a good crew (Brothers in Arms, Off-Road Driving) and 100/105 Octane Oil, the AMX ELC bis can almost have its old mobility back. Rammer/Vertical Stabilizer/Coated Optics is still the most competitive setup, but since it has a slow reload already, Turbo or Grousers may be better than a rammer.

With a crew of just Commander and Gunner only the AM 39 Gendron-Somua may serve as a perfect trainer for an AMX ELC bis crew.

INTERESTING FACT: In reality the AMX ELC bis was classed as a tank destroyer, not a light tank. If you install binoculars with a camo net and/or low-noise exhaust system then you can play this tank like a fast, stealthy TD. Move quickly from place to place, take a sniping shot before disappearing, only to reappear and take a shot again. You are practically forced to do this after 9.18!


Early Research

- The ER 53 radio carries over from the AMX 40, so it's available immediately

- First research the SOFAM de 180 cv engine for a significant increase in acceleration

- Research the 75 mm SA44L for a much-needed penetration increase

- Research the 90 mm D.915, which is easily the best gun for this vehicle

- Upgrade the suspension last, as the added weight capacity is unnecessary, but gives a bit more traverse speed. As of 9.18, this is necessary for equipping camo nets and binos, as well as improving your now-mediocre maneuverability

- Now research the AMX 12t, and prepare for another radical change in play style


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationTank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Binocular Telescope Coated Optics Camouflage Net Low Noise Exhaust System


Gallery

Historical Info

The creation of the AMX ELC 90 for French airborne units reflected post-war France's desire to return to the superpowers club. The enormous colonial empire of the Fourth Republic was splitting at the seams, and the creation of highly mobile and well armed airborne forces was a pressing issue for the French army. What stopped this tank from entering mass production?

The first attempt at an airborne tank was made right after the war. In November of 1946 a 12 ton tank project was completed, armed with a 75mm gun. The tank never got its wings, but further evolution of this design culminated with the AMX 13, the first truly mass produced French post-war tank, which is still in service in some countries.

The next attempt at an airborne tank came almost 10 years later. In 1954 the Engin Léger de Combat (light fighting machine) program was launched to create a six ton tank, or rather a tank destroyer. Two companies made a bid for the ELC tender -- Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX), a part of the DEFA conglomerate (later GIAT, now Nexter) and Brunon-Vallette (EVEN) from Rive-de-Gier, a small town south-west of Lyon. Both companies made unusual vehicles worthy of their own articles.

AMX's engineers used the Hotchkiss CC-2 APC as their base, making their tank a relative of the German Spahpanzer SP 1C, created on the same basis. Indexed Chenillette 4–120SR, the AMX project was initially envisioned as a rather unusual design, similar to the American M50 Ontos. Presented in March of 1954, it was a two-seater vehicle armed with four 120mm recoilless rifles. AMX engineers didn't move this idea past paper, unlike EVEN ones, who made a similar vehicle.

Another project was proposed in July of 1954, the Chenillette 6–105SR. The vehicle was radically redesigned and the armament was changed to six 105mm recoilless rifles. In both projects the driver was positioned forward and the turret rotated fully. This design also did not progress further than paper.

The hero of this piece was first drawn on April 27th, 1954. The project was first called Chenillette biplace avec casemate tournante de 90 (two-seater tankette, 90mm gun in a casemate turret) and had both crew members in the turret. On one hand this simplified the layout. The engine was placed in the front, which made the vehicle very compact.

On the other hand this created a ton of problems. The turret could only rotate fully if the vehicle was still. The turret could not rotate on the move, as the driver would lose access to his controls and observation devices. In an attempt to solve this problem the driver was moved to a cockpit to the right of the tank's center. To achieve this the engine and transmission were moved to the rear, and the turret moved to the front.

The driver would only inhabit his cockpit during battle; on the march he remained in the turret. However the battle conditions were so inhumane that AMX returned to their original idea. Interestingly enough, EVEN engineers managed to house their driver in this fashion.

The first AMX ELC 90 prototype started trials in 1955. Instead of a tank destroyer, it was a tank . . . a curious tank, but a tank nonetheless. The vehicle received a 90mm D915 gun in a two-seater TC 910 turret developed by FAHM (Forges et Aciéries de la Marine et d'Homécourt). After two years of trials the AMX ELC 90 bis came to be.

The vehicle differed noticeably from the prototype. The tank was equipped with roof-mounted smoke grenade launchers. The observation devices were redesigned, and the gun mantlet changed. The engine compartment roof and upper front plate changed, as well as the fenders and the equipment mounted on them. The number of road wheels per side grew to five.

Trials continued until 1961 when the Engin Léger de Combat program was cancelled. The French army never received its airborne tank, even though the AMX ELC 90 bis was far from the worst tank for the role. Of course it had its problems, mainly with maneuverability of fire and convenience for the driver, but it was very appropriate for certain tasks. Finally, the even weirder M50 Ontos was not only produced, but actually fought.

Both AMX ELC 90 prototypes survive to this day, but the fate of the first one is shaky. It was last seen in the forested storage yard of the Saumur tank museum in the mid-1980's. It is most likely still there, but there are no photos confirming the fact. As for the AMX ELC 90 bis it was much luckier. It currently resides in the Musée des Blindés ("Museum of Armoured Vehicles") in Saumur, France as one of the central exhibits in a room dedicated to unusual post-war designs.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

- The 90mm gun was the ELC's only available primary armament, which the surviving prototype still carries today. The 75mm configurations are fictitious

- The ELC AMX's actual top speed is 80km/h

- The turret could only fully traverse 360° while stationary. In-game the 75mm guns can turn 360° even on the move

- Originally designed as tank destroyer, not a light tank


Sources and External Links

France
Light Tanks IRenault FT IID1 IIAM 39 Gendron-Somua IIAMR 35 IIFCM 36 IIRenault R35 IIHotchkiss H35 IIIAMX 38 IVAMX 40 VAMX ELC bis VIAMX 12 t VIPanhard AMD 178B VIIAMX 13 75 VIIHotchkiss EBR VIIAMX 13 57 VIIAMX 13 57 GF VIIIPanhard EBR 75 (FL 10) VIIIPanhard AML Lynx 6x6 VIIIBat.-Châtillon 12 t VIIIELC EVEN 90 IXAMX 13 90 IXPanhard EBR 90 XPanhard EBR 105 XAMX 13 105
Medium Tanks IIID2 IIISomua S35 IVSARL 42 VRenault G1 VIBretagne Panther VIM4A1 FL 10 VIIIBat.-Châtillon Bourrasque VIIIAltProto AMX 30 VIIILorraine 40 t VIIIAMX Chasseur de chars VIIIM4A1 Revalorisé IXAMX 30 1er prototype IXChar Futur 4 IXBat.-Châtillon 25 t AP XBat.-Châtillon 25 t XAMX 30 B
Heavy Tanks IVB1 VBDR G1 B VIARL 44 VIIAMX M4 mle. 45 VIIIAMX 50 100 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté VIIIAMX 65 t VIIISomua SM VIIIFCM 50 t IXAMX 50 120 IXLorraine 50 t IXAMX M4 mle. 51 XAMX 50 B XAMX M4 mle. 54
Tank Destroyers IIRenault FT AC IIIFCM 36 Pak 40 IIIRenault UE 57 IVSomua SAu 40 VM10 RBFM VS35 CA VIARL V39 VIIAMX AC mle. 46 VIIIAMX AC mle. 48 VIIIAMX Canon d'assaut 105 IXAMX 50 Foch XAMX 50 Foch (155) XAMX 50 Foch B
Self-Propelled Artillery IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
Light Tanks
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UK ICruiser Mk. I IIM2 IICruiser Mk. II IILight Mk. VIC IIIValentine IIIStuart I-IV IIICruiser Mk. III IVCruiser Mk. IV VCovenanter VIA46 VICrusader VIIGSR 3301 Setter VIIIFV1066 Senlac VIIILHMTV IXGSOR3301 AVR FS XManticore
Germany ILeichttraktor IIPz.Kpfw. II Ausf. D IIMKA IIPz.Kpfw. 35 R IIPz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f) IIPz.Kpfw. 35 (t) IIPz.Kpfw. I IIPz.Kpfw. II III43 M. Toldi III IIIPz.Kpfw. M 15 IIIPz.Kpfw. 38 (t) IIIPz.Kpfw. III Ausf. E IIIPz.Kpfw. II Ausf. J IIIPz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C IIIPz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G IIIPz.Kpfw. T 15 IVPz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A. IVPz.Kpfw. II Luchs VVK 16.02 Leopard VIVK 28.01 mit 10,5 cm L/28 VIVK 28.01 VIIAufklärungspanzer Panther VIISpähpanzer SP I C VIIIleKpz M 41 90 mm VIIIleKpz M 41 90 mm GF VIIIHWK 12 VIIIHWK 30 IXSpähpanzer Ru 251 XRheinmetall Panzerwagen
France IRenault FT IID1 IIAM 39 Gendron-Somua IIAMR 35 IIFCM 36 IIRenault R35 IIHotchkiss H35 IIIAMX 38 IVAMX 40 VAMX ELC bis VIAMX 12 t VIPanhard AMD 178B VIIAMX 13 75 VIIHotchkiss EBR VIIAMX 13 57 VIIAMX 13 57 GF VIIIPanhard EBR 75 (FL 10) VIIIPanhard AML Lynx 6x6 VIIIBat.-Châtillon 12 t VIIIELC EVEN 90 IXAMX 13 90 IXPanhard EBR 90 XPanhard EBR 105 XAMX 13 105
USSR IMS-1 IIBT-2 IIT-45 IIT-26 IIT-60 IITetrarch IIIBT-SV IIILTP IIIM3 Light IIIBT-7 artillery IIIT-116 IIIBT-5 IIIT-127 IIIT-46 IIIT-70 IVBT-7 IVT-80 IVValentine II VA-20 VT-50 VIMT-25 VIT-50-2 VIILTG VIIILTTB VIIILT-432 IXT-54 ltwt. XT-100 LT
China IIVickers Mk. E Type B IIIType 2597 Chi-Ha IVM5A1 Stuart VI59-16 VIType 64 VIIType 62 VIIWZ-131 VIIIWZ-132 VIIIM41D IXWZ-132A XWZ-132-1
Japan IRenault Otsu IIType 95 Ha-Go IIType 97 Te-Ke IIIType 97 Chi-Ha IIIType 98 Ke-Ni IVType 5 Ke-Ho
Czechoslovakia IKolohousenka IILT vz. 35 IIILT vz. 38
Sweden IStrv fm/21 IIStrv m/38 IIL-60 IIIStrv m/40L IIILago M38
Italy IFiat 3000 IIL6/40
Poland I4TP IITKS z n.k.m. 20 mm II7TP III10TP IV14TP
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