AMX 50 Foch (155)
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? | | | + | |In 9.20 patch, The '''AMX 50 Foch (155)''' was replaced by the [[Tank:F64_AMX_50Fosh_B|AMX 50 Foch B]] as the French tier 10 tank destroyer. Any players who purchased this vehicle before the update received a free Foch B while their Foch 155 received special vehicle status. | |
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+ | It is now the "Derpy" counterpart of the [[Tank:F64_AMX_50Fosh_B|Foch B]], with a 155mm gun that offers high alpha damage and penetration, and very powerful HE shells that made this gun comparable with the pre-nerf [[Tank:J20_Type_2605|Type 5 Heavy]]'s infamous derp gun, but with 3-shot autoloader making the Foch 155 capable of mowing down precisely the enemies most needing destruction in order to transform the course of a match. | |||
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+ | Saddled with the height, handicapped gun handling, and no protection outside of the frontal arc, the Foch has many weaknesses which can make it incredibly frustrating to play. While difficult to exploit and temperamental in the extreme, the Foch (155) is an absolute game-changer when used with perfect timing. | |||
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? | + | - Huge burst damage with high damage per shot and good penetration on AP rounds | ||
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? | + | - Very powerful HE shells with higher penetration and better accuracy than the pre-nerf [[Tank:J20_Type_2605|Type 5 Heavy]]'s 15cm derp shots, combined with 3-shot autoloader results in higher chance to score a kill against weak-armored tanks or even well-armored ones | ||
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+ | - Excellent penetration on special ammunition, rivaling even [[Tank:G72_JagdPz_E100|JE100]]'s HEAT shells | |||
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+ | - Frontal armor is thick and well sloped | |||
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+ | - Good top speed and decent weight makes ramming a decent option to counter light tanks | |||
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? | + | - Vulnerable to flankers, thanks to weak and flat side armor | ||
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? | + | - Weakspots are easy to hit especially at close range | ||
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+ | - Very long reload time both between magazine and between clip | |||
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+ | - Long aiming time, small traverse arc and slow shell speed | |||
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+ | - High terrain resistance hampering its mobility on soft terrains | |||
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Based on the M 4 chassis in 1950, AMX presented a prototype of a heavy tank destroyer in the form of a 120 mm self-propelled gun, the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was intended to give long range fire support to the medium/heavy AMX 50 100 mm model. The design had a lot of similarities with German Jagdpanther tank destroyer. It had a long bareled 120 mm gun with a muzzle break attached to a well sloped and heavily armored flat profile vehicle. Remotely controlled anti-aircraft machinegun was placed on the right side of the roof, while commander’s cupola with the range finder was pushed to the left. | Based on the M 4 chassis in 1950, AMX presented a prototype of a heavy tank destroyer in the form of a 120 mm self-propelled gun, the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was intended to give long range fire support to the medium/heavy AMX 50 100 mm model. The design had a lot of similarities with German Jagdpanther tank destroyer. It had a long bareled 120 mm gun with a muzzle break attached to a well sloped and heavily armored flat profile vehicle. Remotely controlled anti-aircraft machinegun was placed on the right side of the roof, while commander’s cupola with the range finder was pushed to the left. | |||
? | Unlike previous post war concepts like the Mle. 1948, several AMX 50 TDs were built, the first in 1950. Field tests were promising, and army started to prepare to adopt AMX 50 Foch in small numbers. When AMX engineers managed to install a 120 mm gun into an oscillating turret of the AMX 50 120 tank, Foch immediately become obsolete and all further development and production were stopped. In order to try to | + | Unlike previous post war concepts like the Mle. 1948, several AMX 50 TDs were built, the first in 1950. Field tests were promising, and army started to prepare to adopt AMX 50 Foch in small numbers. When AMX engineers managed to install a 120 mm gun into an oscillating turret of the AMX 50 120 tank, Foch immediately become obsolete and all further development and production were stopped. In order to try to save the project, several proposals which incorporated installation of a much more powerful 155 mm gun were given to the army, but all efforts were abandoned when France made moves to adopt standardized NATO equipment and ammunition. | |
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+ | * The Foch was never designed to hold an autoloader | |||
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? | + | image: 1950_CANON_AUTOMOTEUR_AMX_50_FOCH.jpg | ||
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? | image:Amx50foch037rz.jpg | + | File:AMX_50_Foch_blueprint.jpg{{!}}AMX 50 Foch armor layout | |
+ | File:AMX_50_Foch_blueprint_1.jpg{{!}}The Foch's ammunition storage | |||
+ | File:AMX_50_Foch_blueprint_2.jpg{{!}}AMX 50 Foch interior blueprint | |||
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+ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50 | |||
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+ | {{VideoYT|M_N1cGunySc}} | |||
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+ | |Sidebar_Camostop=14.0 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Camomove=8.6 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Camofire=3.4 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Passhard=1.342 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Passmed=1.534 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Passsoft=2.301 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispTurret=0.192 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispRecoil=3.836 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispAccel=0.192 | |||
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AMX 50 Foch (155)
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[Client Values; Actual values in
5 Cost |
1850370 HP Hit Points |
57.6/59.5617.3/59.56 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator)
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader
10001000 hp Engine Power |
50/13 km/h Speed Limit |
3030 deg/s Traverse |
17.3657.8 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
YesYes Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
AP/HEAT/HE
AP/HEAT/HE Shells |
1560/6800/1090
1560/6800/1090 Shell Cost |
750/750/1100750/750/1100 HP Damage |
293/395/90293/395/90 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
3 r/m Magazine-fed Gun ▲
3 Rate of Fire Magazine-fed Gun |
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Magazine-fed Gun
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Magazine-fed Gun
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3142.5 Magazine-fed Gun ▲
Magazine-fed Gun
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Magazine-fed Gun
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3142.5 Damage Per Minute Magazine-fed Gun |
m ▲
0.36 m With 50% Crew: 0.446 m ▲
0.36 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.446 m |
s 3 s 3 Aim time |
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
20° Gun Arc |
-6°/+18°-6°/+18° Elevation Arc |
3030 rounds Ammo Capacity |
1515 % Chance of Fire |
m 380 m 380 View Range |
m 750 m 750 Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 14%
- When Moving: 8.6%
- When Firing: 3.4%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 1.34
- On Medium Ground: 1.53
- On Soft Ground: 2.3
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.19
- Shot Recoil: 3.84
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.19
- Turning: 0.19
With 100% Crew
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The AMX 50 Foch (155) is a French tier 10 premium tank destroyer.
In 1952, with the launch of the AMX 50 120 tank project, the French discontinued development of the AMX 50 Foch tank destroyer. A tank destroyer having the same 120-mm gun armament as the tank was thought to be unnecessary. There were attempts to upgrade the main gun to 155 mm, but these efforts were abandoned as France made moves to adopt standardized NATO equipment.
In 9.20 patch, The AMX 50 Foch (155) was replaced by the AMX 50 Foch B as the French tier 10 tank destroyer. Any players who purchased this vehicle before the update received a free Foch B while their Foch 155 received special vehicle status.
It is now the "Derpy" counterpart of the Foch B, with a 155mm gun that offers high alpha damage and penetration, and very powerful HE shells that made this gun comparable with the pre-nerf Type 5 Heavy's infamous derp gun, but with 3-shot autoloader making the Foch 155 capable of mowing down precisely the enemies most needing destruction in order to transform the course of a match.
Saddled with the height, handicapped gun handling, and no protection outside of the frontal arc, the Foch has many weaknesses which can make it incredibly frustrating to play. While difficult to exploit and temperamental in the extreme, the Foch (155) is an absolute game-changer when used with perfect timing.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Gun | Penetration (mm) |
Damage (HP) |
Rate of fire (rounds/minute) |
Dispersion (m/100m) |
Aiming time (s) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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X | 155 mm AC SA58 | 293/395/90 | 750/750/1100 | 3 | 0.36 | 3 | 5000 | 375000 |
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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X | Saurer 1000F | 1000 | 15 | 750 | 110000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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X | AMX 50 Foch (155) | 59.56 | 30 | 0 | 11000 | 82500 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Huge burst damage with high damage per shot and good penetration on AP rounds
- Very powerful HE shells with higher penetration and better accuracy than the pre-nerf Type 5 Heavy's 15cm derp shots, combined with 3-shot autoloader results in higher chance to score a kill against weak-armored tanks or even well-armored ones
- Excellent penetration on special ammunition, rivaling even JE100's HEAT shells
- Frontal armor is thick and well sloped
- Good top speed and decent weight makes ramming a decent option to counter light tanks
Cons:
- Vulnerable to flankers, thanks to weak and flat side armor
- Weakspots are easy to hit especially at close range
- Very long reload time both between magazine and between clip
- Long aiming time, small traverse arc and slow shell speed
- High terrain resistance hampering its mobility on soft terrains
Suggested Equipment
External Reviews and Opinions
Gallery
Historical Info
Based on the M 4 chassis in 1950, AMX presented a prototype of a heavy tank destroyer in the form of a 120 mm self-propelled gun, the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was intended to give long range fire support to the medium/heavy AMX 50 100 mm model. The design had a lot of similarities with German Jagdpanther tank destroyer. It had a long bareled 120 mm gun with a muzzle break attached to a well sloped and heavily armored flat profile vehicle. Remotely controlled anti-aircraft machinegun was placed on the right side of the roof, while commander’s cupola with the range finder was pushed to the left.
Unlike previous post war concepts like the Mle. 1948, several AMX 50 TDs were built, the first in 1950. Field tests were promising, and army started to prepare to adopt AMX 50 Foch in small numbers. When AMX engineers managed to install a 120 mm gun into an oscillating turret of the AMX 50 120 tank, Foch immediately become obsolete and all further development and production were stopped. In order to try to save the project, several proposals which incorporated installation of a much more powerful 155 mm gun were given to the army, but all efforts were abandoned when France made moves to adopt standardized NATO equipment and ammunition.
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
* The Foch was never designed to hold an autoloader