Jagdpanther II
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? | |The Jagdpanther II, along with its cousin, the [[Ferdinand]], are Germany's | + | |The Jagdpanther II, along with its cousin, the [[Ferdinand]], are two of Germany's three non-premium tier 8 tank destroyers. Possessing the same 12,8 gun, they are all extremely powerful and pack a great punch. It has a very thick and sloped frontal casemate armor that can bounce even Tier X shells. It is also much faster than most Tank destroyers of its tier, due to its powerful engine and good ground resistance values. Keep in mind though, the hull armor is still quite thin, and to best utilize your tank you should employ ambush or sniping tactics, using the element of surprise as your weapon. The JagdPanther II will be able to inflict substantial damage and dart away before the enemy gets a clear shot. With proper use, the Jagdpanther II can become a fearsome opponent. | |
? | Many players compare this tank with its twin, the [[Ferdinand]] as it carries the same guns and reload time, but the Jadgpanther II puts emphasis on its Maneuverability over armor allowing it to move and relocate surprisingly fast on the battlefield, while being | + | Many players compare this tank with its twin, the [[Ferdinand]] as it carries the same guns and has (almost) the same reload time, but the Jadgpanther II puts emphasis on its Maneuverability over hull armor allowing it to move and relocate surprisingly fast on the battlefield, while being much faster than the Ferdinand. It doesn't have a very good gun traverse and gun depression (compared that of the Ferdinand), requiring to move more often to readjust the aim against an enemy, but it makes no less of a threat. | |
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? | * | + | * Excellent traverse and acceleration on hard terrain ([[AMX 13 90]] or [[WZ-132]] will have extreme difficulty circling you) | |
? | * Very powerful top gun | + | * Very powerful and accurate top gun | |
? | * Adequate stock gun and engine | + | * Adequate stock gun and engine carries over from [[Jagdpanther]] makes stock grind pretty enjoyable | |
? | * | + | * Very strong superstructure (Around 250mm effective, armour wise better at hull-down than Ferdinand) | |
? | * | + | * Deceptively heavy, great for ramming mediums and light heavies | |
? | + | * Can mount the top gun with stock suspension | ||
? | * | + | * Good view range | |
|InTheGame_cons= | |InTheGame_cons= | |||
? | * Very tall | + | * Very tall, rather bad camo value for a TD | |
? | * | + | * Hull armor is very lacking | |
+ | * Mediocre gun placement defeating 6.5 degrees of depression, limited hull down potential | |||
* Engine in front of hull is easily damaged | * Engine in front of hull is easily damaged | |||
? | * | + | * Ammo rack very weak, almost every hit to the side of the fighting compartment will damage it | |
+ | * Does not get a 2nd loader like the Ferdinand, and the next two TDs in the line use two loaders; having to start a brand new loader at tier 8 is preferable to doing so at tier 9 | |||
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? | + | |InTheGame_performance= The JagdPanther II is a very versatile TD, much more so than [[Ferdinand]]. It can fit and perform adequately in pretty much every situation. It's not limited to sniping and supporting the main force like typical tank destroyers, but can also be used as a brawler and flanker if needed. You can even wolfpack with mediums and support them with your firepower if you want. The 128mm gun can easily penetrate any tier 8 and below without any trouble. Another good thing is because of your agility, it is very hard for a medium tank to circle. | ||
? | Overall, it's a very fun tank to play in a skilled player that knows how to maximize its strength | + | However do note that its weaknesses which is its tall stature and poor hull armor. Due to its size, it has mediocre camouflage value (on par with same tier mediums) and thus it is easy to be spotted. Its armor is similar to that of the Panther II however due to the fact that it is a non-turret TD, you are unable to angle while returning fire. Your only hardpoint is the casemate, at 150mm sloped back at 60 degrees, it is a very tough nut to crack. Abuse hulldown positions and/ or elevated platforms, enemies will have a very hard time damaging you while you punish them with your high alpha. | |
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+ | Overall, it's a very fun tank to play, and in the hands of a skilled player that knows how to maximize its strength, it is easily one of the most feared tank in tier 8. | |||
|InTheGame_research= | |InTheGame_research= | |||
+ | * Research the the 12,8cm PaK 44 L/55. | |||
+ | * Research suspension. | |||
+ | * Go for the upgraded engine. | |||
|InTheGame_equipment= | |InTheGame_equipment= | |||
? | Tank Gun Rammer, GLD, Camouflage Net, Vents, | + | Tank Gun Rammer, GLD, Camouflage Net, Vents, Coated Optics, Wet Ammo rack | |
|History= | |History= | |||
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? | image:JagdPanther II 1.jpg{{!}} | + | image:JagdPanther II 1.jpg{{!}}Jagdpanther mit 12.8 cm Pak 80 technical drawing | |
+ | |HistAcc= | |||
+ | The Jagdpanther II's actual name is, Jagdpanther mit 12.8 cm Pak 80. | |||
+ | *This tank destroyer was developed on the basis of the [[Panther]] hull, not [[Panther II]]. Its hull armor values should be 85/50/40 mm, not 100/60/40. | |||
+ | *The actual Jagdpanther II project was simply a [[Jagdpanther]], but based on the Panther II chassis. | |||
+ | *The Panther II project had been dead for around a year before the Jagdpanther mit 12.8 cm Pak 80 project began. | |||
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+ | |Sidebar_Camostop=10.3 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Camomove=6.3 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Camofire=2.9 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Passhard=0.767 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Passmed=0.959 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_Passsoft=2.014 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispTurret=0.077 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispRecoil=2.877 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispAccel=0.173 | |||
+ | |Sidebar_DispTurning=0.172 | |||
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Revision as of 16:27, 16 May 2019
Jagdpanther II
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2,570,000 Cost |
1150230 HP Hit Points |
51.73/5321.71/56 t Weight Limit |
- Commander
- Gunner
- Driver
- Radio Operator
- Loader
650700 hp Engine Power |
55/12 km/h Speed Limit |
3438 deg/s Traverse |
12.5732.24 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
YesYes Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
252/4400/252
1070/4800/935 Shell Cost |
240/240/295490/490/630 HP Damage |
203/237/44246/311/65 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
10 r/m Standard Gun ▲
5.13 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
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Standard Gun
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Standard Gun
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2400 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
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2513.7 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.32 m With 50% Crew: 0.396 m ▲
0.35 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.434 m |
s 2.3 s 2.3 Aim time |
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
20° Gun Arc |
-7°/+15°-7°/+15° Elevation Arc |
5030 rounds Ammo Capacity |
2020 % Chance of Fire |
m 360 m 360 View Range |
m 310 m 710 Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 10.3%
- When Moving: 6.3%
- When Firing: 2.9%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 0.77
- On Medium Ground: 0.96
- On Soft Ground: 2.01
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.08
- Shot Recoil: 2.88
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.17
- Turning: 0.17
With 100% Crew
VIII
2570000
The Jagdpanther II is a German tier 8 tank destroyer.
Developed on the basis of the Panther II. The vehicle was to be equipped with a 128 mm gun and the fighting compartment to be located in the rear. Existed only in blueprints.
The Jagdpanther II, along with its cousin, the Ferdinand, are two of Germany's three non-premium tier 8 tank destroyers. Possessing the same 12,8 gun, they are all extremely powerful and pack a great punch. It has a very thick and sloped frontal casemate armor that can bounce even Tier X shells. It is also much faster than most Tank destroyers of its tier, due to its powerful engine and good ground resistance values. Keep in mind though, the hull armor is still quite thin, and to best utilize your tank you should employ ambush or sniping tactics, using the element of surprise as your weapon. The JagdPanther II will be able to inflict substantial damage and dart away before the enemy gets a clear shot. With proper use, the Jagdpanther II can become a fearsome opponent.
Many players compare this tank with its twin, the Ferdinand as it carries the same guns and has (almost) the same reload time, but the Jadgpanther II puts emphasis on its Maneuverability over hull armor allowing it to move and relocate surprisingly fast on the battlefield, while being much faster than the Ferdinand. It doesn't have a very good gun traverse and gun depression (compared that of the Ferdinand), requiring to move more often to readjust the aim against an enemy, but it makes no less of a threat.
The Jagdpanther II marks the end of its German tank destroyer line.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VII | Maybach HL 210 TRM P30 | 650 | 20 | 850 | 35500 | |
VIII | Maybach HL 230 TRM P30 | 700 | 20 | 1200 | 54000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VII | Jagdpanther II | 53 | 34 | 0 | 16500 | 18860 | |
VIII | Jagdpanther II verstärkteketten | 56 | 38 | 0 | 16500 | 34200 |
Tier | Radio | Signal Range (m) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
III | FuG 5 | 310 | 50 | 630 | |
VI | FuG 7 | 415 | 70 | 8160 | |
IX | FuG 12 | 710 | 150 | 43200 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Excellent traverse and acceleration on hard terrain (AMX 13 90 or WZ-132 will have extreme difficulty circling you)
- Very powerful and accurate top gun
- Adequate stock gun and engine carries over from Jagdpanther makes stock grind pretty enjoyable
- Very strong superstructure (Around 250mm effective, armour wise better at hull-down than Ferdinand)
- Deceptively heavy, great for ramming mediums and light heavies
Cons:
- Very tall, rather bad camo value for a TD
- Hull armor is very lacking
- Mediocre gun placement defeating 6.5 degrees of depression, limited hull down potential
- Engine in front of hull is easily damaged
- Ammo rack very weak, almost every hit to the side of the fighting compartment will damage it
Performance
The JagdPanther II is a very versatile TD, much more so than Ferdinand. It can fit and perform adequately in pretty much every situation. It's not limited to sniping and supporting the main force like typical tank destroyers, but can also be used as a brawler and flanker if needed. You can even wolfpack with mediums and support them with your firepower if you want. The 128mm gun can easily penetrate any tier 8 and below without any trouble. Another good thing is because of your agility, it is very hard for a medium tank to circle.
However do note that its weaknesses which is its tall stature and poor hull armor. Due to its size, it has mediocre camouflage value (on par with same tier mediums) and thus it is easy to be spotted. Its armor is similar to that of the Panther II however due to the fact that it is a non-turret TD, you are unable to angle while returning fire. Your only hardpoint is the casemate, at 150mm sloped back at 60 degrees, it is a very tough nut to crack. Abuse hulldown positions and/ or elevated platforms, enemies will have a very hard time damaging you while you punish them with your high alpha.
Overall, it's a very fun tank to play, and in the hands of a skilled player that knows how to maximize its strength, it is easily one of the most feared tank in tier 8.
Early Research
- Research the the 12,8cm PaK 44 L/55.
- Research suspension.
- Go for the upgraded engine.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
The Jagdpanther II's actual name is, Jagdpanther mit 12.8 cm Pak 80.
- This tank destroyer was developed on the basis of the Panther hull, not Panther II. Its hull armor values should be 85/50/40 mm, not 100/60/40.
- The actual Jagdpanther II project was simply a Jagdpanther, but based on the Panther II chassis.
- The Panther II project had been dead for around a year before the Jagdpanther mit 12.8 cm Pak 80 project began.