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 +|With its slow speed, relatively high armor values, and good selection of guns, a "Pocket Heavy Tank" might be the best way to describe the Valentine.
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 +|Gallery=
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 +|InTheGame_pros=
 +* Decent armour for its tier
 +* Good selection of well rounded guns with high penetration (6 pdr) or high alpha strike damage (75 mm)
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 +|InTheGame_cons=
 +* Generally slow. Only the last engine provides any noticeable mobility improvement
 +* The engines are only useable on the Valentine Mk. III
 +* Low rate of fire and damage per minute
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 +|InTheGame_performance=
 +It has no problems accelerating with the top engine, but the 24km/h speed limit will mean you'll be picking up the rear of the advance. Performance is also quite sluggish going uphill. Turning is relatively fast, even with the stock engine, so you're not completely helpless against [[light tanks]] and other "brawlers". Your armor, and the proper positioning, will help you bounce shells from Tier 3 vehicles and many Tier 4s. Both the 6 Pounder Mk V and 75mm are worth trying out to see which suits the player best. However both suffer from low rates of fire, and in either case, you'll find that picking your shots on Tier 5s/6s is essential if you choose to engage them. If you find yourself stuck in a tier 6 battle, the best advice would be to follow a larger ally, and allow them to draw fire while you have time to place your shots.
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 +The Valentine has a very short profile, giving it the option of going for stealth, if desired. Given its slow speed and the relatively slow firing rate of its guns (apart from the stock gun), passive spotting and sniping are typically the best options when placed in the bottom tier of matches. Naturally this works better with the Camouflage skill, but it's up to the player whether it's worth the trade-off over other skills.
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 +|InTheGame_research=
 +* Only the WS No. 19 Mk. II radio carries over from the A10 Cruiser Mk. II. There's no reason not to install it immediately.
 +* You can research the engines first, but if you do, go all the way to the GMC 6004 6-71A. The two in between have nothing to offer, as you can see by the horsepower ratings.
 +* You must research the upgraded suspension in order to mount the second turret.
 +* Once you have the suspension and turret researched, choose a gun to research. The 6 pdr Gun Mk. V (L/50) is better than the QF 6 pounder Mk. III, but some players may wish to get the latter and use it while working on the former.
 +* Once you have one of the available 6 pounders, research the engines, if you haven't already.
 +* Go from there.
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 +|InTheGame_equipment=
 +Vents, GLD, Spall Liner, Camouflage Net
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 +|History=
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 +|HistoricalGallery=
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 +|Ref_references=
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 +|Ref_sources=
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Valentine

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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120,000  Credits Cost
310340 HP Hit Points
16.26/16.518.6/20 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Gunner, Radio Operator)
  2. Driver
  3. Loader
Mobility
135165 hp Engine Power
24/10 km/h Speed Limit
4042 deg/s Traverse
8.38.87 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
60/60/60 mm Hull Armor
65/65/6565/65/65 mm Turret Armor
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Shell Cost
50/50/60110/110/175 HP Damage
78/121/2391/144/38 mm Penetration



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28.57 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 2.1 s
50% Crew: 2.6 s
75% Crew: 2.27 s
100% Crew: 2.01 s
Rammer: 1.81 s
Vents: 1.97 s
Both: 1.77 s
Both and BiA: 1.73 s
Both and Max Crew %: 1.66 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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9.09 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 6.6 s
50% Crew: 8.18 s
75% Crew: 7.14 s
100% Crew: 6.33 s
Rammer: 5.7 s
Vents: 6.19 s
Both: 5.57 s
Both and BiA: 5.45 s
Both and Max Crew %: 5.22 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1428.5

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (50 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1428.5
50% Crew: 1153
75% Crew: 1320.5
100% Crew: 1490
100% Crew
Vents: 1523.5
Rammer: 1655.5
Both: 1693
Both and BiA: 1730.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1805.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1478.5
50% Crew: 1203
75% Crew: 1370.5
100% Crew: 1540
100% Crew
Rammer: 1705.5
Vents: 1573.5
Both: 1743
Both and BiA: 1780.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1855.5

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (50 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1428.5
50% Crew: 1153
75% Crew: 1320.5
100% Crew: 1490
100% Crew
Vents: 1523.5
Rammer: 1655.5
Both: 1693
Both and BiA: 1730.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1805.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1478.5
50% Crew: 1203
75% Crew: 1370.5
100% Crew: 1540
100% Crew
Rammer: 1705.5
Vents: 1573.5
Both: 1743
Both and BiA: 1780.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1855.5

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (60 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1714.2
50% Crew: 1383.6
75% Crew: 1584.6
100% Crew: 1788
100% Crew
Vents: 1828.2
Rammer: 1986.6
Both: 2031.6
Both and BiA: 2076.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2166.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1774.2
50% Crew: 1443.6
75% Crew: 1644.6
100% Crew: 1848
100% Crew
Rammer: 2046.6
Vents: 1888.2
Both: 2091.6
Both and BiA: 2136.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2226.6

See here, here, or here for more information.






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999.9

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 999.9
50% Crew: 807.4
75% Crew: 924
100% Crew: 1042.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1065.9
Rammer: 1158.3
Both: 1184.7
Both and BiA: 1211.1
Both and Max Crew %: 1263.9

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1109.9
50% Crew: 917.4
75% Crew: 1034
100% Crew: 1152.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 1268.3
Vents: 1175.9
Both: 1294.7
Both and BiA: 1321.1
Both and Max Crew %: 1373.9

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 999.9
50% Crew: 807.4
75% Crew: 924
100% Crew: 1042.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1065.9
Rammer: 1158.3
Both: 1184.7
Both and BiA: 1211.1
Both and Max Crew %: 1263.9

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1109.9
50% Crew: 917.4
75% Crew: 1034
100% Crew: 1152.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 1268.3
Vents: 1175.9
Both: 1294.7
Both and BiA: 1321.1
Both and Max Crew %: 1373.9

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1590.75
50% Crew: 1284.5
75% Crew: 1470
100% Crew: 1659
100% Crew
Vents: 1695.75
Rammer: 1842.75
Both: 1884.75
Both and BiA: 1926.75
Both and Max Crew %: 2010.75

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1765.75
50% Crew: 1459.5
75% Crew: 1645
100% Crew: 1834
100% Crew
Rammer: 2017.75
Vents: 1870.75
Both: 2059.75
Both and BiA: 2101.75
Both and Max Crew %: 2185.75

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.458 m
With 75% Crew: 0.403 m
With 100% Crew: 0.36 m
With BiA: 0.352 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.345 m
Maximum possible: 0.331 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.41 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.522 m
With 75% Crew: 0.459 m
With 100% Crew: 0.41 m
With BiA: 0.401 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.393 m
Maximum possible: 0.377 m

For more details, see Crew
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1.7 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.164 s
With 75% Crew: 1.904 s
With 100% Crew: 1.7 s
With GLD: 1.545 s
With BiA: 1.661 s
With BiA and Vents: 1.63 s
With both and GLD: 1.482 s
Maximum possible: 1.421 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.5 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.182 s
With 75% Crew: 2.8 s
With 100% Crew: 2.5 s
With GLD: 2.273 s
With BiA: 2.443 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.397 s
With both and GLD: 2.179 s
Maximum possible: 2.089 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
4440 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-15°/+20°-8°/+17° Elevation Arc
6044 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2015 % Chance of Fire






330 m 

With 50% Crew: 259.3 m
With 75% Crew: 294.7 m
With 100% Crew: 330 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 346.7 m
With Coated Optics: 363 m
With Binocular Telescope: 412.5 m
Maximum possible: 472.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






340 m 

With 50% Crew: 267.1 m
With 75% Crew: 303.6 m
With 100% Crew: 340 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 357.2 m
With Coated Optics: 374 m
With Binocular Telescope: 425 m
Maximum possible: 486.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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350 m 

With 50% Crew: 275 m
With 75% Crew: 312.5 m
With 100% Crew: 350 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 420 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 385 m
Maximum possible: 503.6 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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450 m 

With 50% Crew: 353.6 m
With 75% Crew: 401.8 m
With 100% Crew: 450 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 540 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 495 m
Maximum possible: 647.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


IV

AnnoGB04_Valentine.png

120000

The Valentine is a British tier 4 light tank.

Designed in 1938 by Vickers-Armstrong, the tank was one of the best in its class. A total of 8,275 vehicles in various modifications were manufactured from 1940 through 1944.

With its slow speed, relatively high armor values, and good selection of guns, a "Pocket Heavy Tank" might be the best way to describe the Valentine.

The Valentine leads to the Bishop, and the Archer.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

IV QF 6-pdr Mk. III 105/170/30 75/75/100 13.33 0.43 2.3 400 27000
V QF 6-pdr Gun Mk. V 110/180/30 75/75/100 13.33 0.41 2.5 450 35000
V 75 mm Gun Mk. V 91/144/38 110/110/175 9.09 0.41 2.5 500 45000
IV QF 2-pdr Mk. X 78/121/23 50/50/60 28.57 0.36 1.7 130 6000

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

III Valentine Mk. I 65/65/65 44 330 2750 1880
IV Valentine Mk. XI 65/65/65 40 340 4530 4500

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

III AEC A190 131 15 800 2500
IV GMC 6004 6-71S 138 15 991 9000
V GMC 6004 6-71A 165 15 991 11000
II AEC A189 135 20 800 2150

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

III Valentine Mk. I 16.5 40 B/2 3200 1420
IV Valentine Mk. VI 20 42 B/2 3200 4700

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII WS No. 19 Mk. II 450 40 21000
VI WS No. 19 Mk. I 400 40 15000
V WS No. 9 375 40 3600
III WS No. 11 350 40 600

Compatible Equipment

Light Spall Liner Camouflage Net Coated Optics Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Vertical Coil Springs 1 Class Improved Ventilation Class 1 Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Pudding and Tea Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Decent armour for its tier
  • Good selection of well rounded guns with high penetration (6 pdr) or high alpha strike damage (75 mm)


Cons:


  • Generally slow. Only the last engine provides any noticeable mobility improvement
  • The engines are only useable on the Valentine Mk. III
  • Low rate of fire and damage per minute


Performance

It has no problems accelerating with the top engine, but the 24km/h speed limit will mean you'll be picking up the rear of the advance. Performance is also quite sluggish going uphill. Turning is relatively fast, even with the stock engine, so you're not completely helpless against light tanks and other "brawlers". Your armor, and the proper positioning, will help you bounce shells from Tier 3 vehicles and many Tier 4s. Both the 6 Pounder Mk V and 75mm are worth trying out to see which suits the player best. However both suffer from low rates of fire, and in either case, you'll find that picking your shots on Tier 5s/6s is essential if you choose to engage them. If you find yourself stuck in a tier 6 battle, the best advice would be to follow a larger ally, and allow them to draw fire while you have time to place your shots.

The Valentine has a very short profile, giving it the option of going for stealth, if desired. Given its slow speed and the relatively slow firing rate of its guns (apart from the stock gun), passive spotting and sniping are typically the best options when placed in the bottom tier of matches. Naturally this works better with the Camouflage skill, but it's up to the player whether it's worth the trade-off over other skills.


Early Research

  • Only the WS No. 19 Mk. II radio carries over from the A10 Cruiser Mk. II. There's no reason not to install it immediately.
  • You can research the engines first, but if you do, go all the way to the GMC 6004 6-71A. The two in between have nothing to offer, as you can see by the horsepower ratings.
  • You must research the upgraded suspension in order to mount the second turret.
  • Once you have the suspension and turret researched, choose a gun to research. The 6 pdr Gun Mk. V (L/50) is better than the QF 6 pounder Mk. III, but some players may wish to get the latter and use it while working on the former.
  • Once you have one of the available 6 pounders, research the engines, if you haven't already.
  • Go from there.


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationEnhanced Gun Laying Drive Spall Liner Camouflage Net 


Gallery

History for this tank not found


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