Challenger
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+ | * Very fast speed and surprisingly good traverse (for a TD), can let it play a flanking role or fall back when in danger | |||
+ | * Gun depression is'nt too shabby, especially compared to the AT 7 | |||
+ | * Wonderful Gun handling and accuracy lets even amateurs nail shots frequently ( if they pen is another question ) | |||
+ | * Very fast RoF compensates it's horrible Alpha damage | |||
+ | * Has a turret and pivots unlike most at tier TD's | |||
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+ | * Not particularly good penetration on gun, 171 mm of pen. Is ok at its tier, but will struggle with higher tier engagements | |||
+ | * Large size and thin armor makes you easy pickings for enemy tanks ( especially arty ) | |||
+ | * While not horrible for a TD, the hull and turret travers could be better | |||
+ | * Easily the 2nd worst tier VII TD (Still better than Sturer Emil); The grind to the Charioteer will be long and painful | |||
+ | * 2nd turret has a mere 40mm of frontal armor ( 200 mm on the back, This is only useful very occasionally) | |||
+ | |InTheGame_performance= | |||
+ | The 17-pdr gun which was devastating on the Archer and still very good on the Achilles is painfully sub-par on the Challenger. With 171 penetration, you'll find standard rounds unable to penetrate most tier VIII and IX tanks frontally. It's large silhouette and poor camouflage values make this tank difficult to conceal (even with camo-oriented setup, most enemies will spot you from about 350m), and the thin armour won't block many shots. | |||
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+ | The role of this tank is long-range sniping. Its decent mobility allows to take advantageous positions early and quickly change positions, should such need arise. Avoid close-range fighting - poor armour, slow traverse and low accuracy while moving make you an easy prey for most light and medium tanks you encounter. After the Buff in update 9.15, it is a very effective flanking tank, especially with the top gun and turret and on maps such as malinovka, where the good maneuverability and fast-firing gun will allow you to harass enemy tanks from behind rather effectively. | |||
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+ | An interesting thing to note is that the stock turret of the Challenger is very similar to the turret on the TOG II*. This is not coincidental; during development, the TOG II* was fitted with a variety of turrets, the final configuration seen today in the Bovington Tank Museum and in the game used the Challenger's turret. | |||
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+ | |InTheGame_research= | |||
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+ | The first thing that you definitely want to research is the gun, the tanks is useless without the second gun and so it is a must. | |||
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+ | Next, research the second turret, as it will give you a huge RoF boost and is actually lighter than the first. | |||
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+ | After this, research everything else in any order, it doesn't really matter. | |||
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+ | |External_Reviews= | |||
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+ | https://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/446098-a-challenger-perspective-not-the-worst-td/ | |||
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+ | |History= | |||
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+ | The Tank, Cruiser, Challenger (A30) was a British tank of World War II. It mounted the QF 17-pounder anti-tank gun on a chassis derived from the Cromwell tank to add heavier anti-tank firepower to the cruiser tank units. | |||
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+ | The design compromises made in fitting the large gun onto the Cromwell chassis resulted in a tank with a powerful weapon, but with less armour. The extemporised Sherman Firefly conversion of the US-supplied Sherman was easier to produce and, combined with delays in production, meant that only 200 Challengers were built. However, it was able to keep up with the fast Cromwell tank and was used alongside them. | |||
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+ | The driving force in the development of Challenger was Roy Robotham. Robotham had been a Rolls-Royce executive in the car division who, with no work to do, had led a team to develop a tank powerplant from the Rolls-Royce Merlin aircraft engine. The Rolls-Royce Meteor gave the British a powerful, reliable engine, which would power the A27M Cruiser Mk VIII Cromwell tank. Robotham's contributions gained him a place in the Ministry of Supply and on the Tank Board, despite his lack of experience in tank design.[5] | |||
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+ | The General Staff brought forward specification A29 for a 45-ton 17-pounder-armed cruiser tank based on needs identified in the African desert campaign. The design weight of this vehicle was too heavy however, and prior to manufacture the specification was passed over in favour of the alternate specification, A30 at 10 tons lighter.[6] | |||
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+ | In 1942, an order for an A30 based tank was placed with Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Company (BRC&W) expecting it to be based on the Cromwell components also being manufactured by BRC&W. Turret and gun mounting was in the hands of Stothert & Pitt. Birmingham Carriage had to modify the Cromwell hull to take a bigger turret. | |||
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+ | The design received additional emphasis when it was found in May 1943 that the Cromwell was not going to be able to fit its intended armament. Vickers had been developing a 50-calibre-long 75mm "High Velocity" tank gun. It was realised late in the design process that the Cromwell's turret ring was too small to mount this 75 mm (3.0 in) gun.[7] Thus the Challenger would be the only British cruiser tank to mount a weapon that could tackle heavier German armour until the arrival of the A34 Comet. | |||
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+ | British tank production was a limited resource however, and insufficient numbers could be made. In the lead-up to D-Day, Sherman tanks were upgraded with the 17-pounder creating the interim Sherman Firefly. Conversions of Sherman tanks to Fireflys was simpler than production of Challenger, and the A30 order was cancelled after about 200 had been built allowing BRC&W to focus on production of the Cromwell. | |||
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+ | The tank was rendered obsolete when the Vickers HV 75 mm gun was developed to become the 77mm HV (actually 76.2 mm calibre) to arm the Comet tank. The 77mm HV used the same projectiles as the 17-pounder although with a reduced propellent charge compared to the 17-pdr. The 17-pdr was briefly used on earlier marks of Cromwell's successor -the Centurion tank. | |||
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+ | |HistAcc= | |||
+ | The Challenger in this game is an amalgamation of the Challenger cruiser tank and the Avenger tank destroyer. The Avenger utilised a new hull based on the Comet cruiser tank; the turret was never fitted to a Challenger. | |||
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+ | Challenger (1).jpg{{!}}Challenger tank of 15/19th Hussars, 11th Armoured Division in Holland on 17 October 1944 | |||
+ | Avenger.jpg{{!}}SP 17pdr, A30 (Avenger) | |||
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Challenger
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[Client Values; Actual values in
1,380,000 Cost |
840228 HP Hit Points |
33.02/33.516.98/36.8 t Weight Limit |
- Commander
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader (Radio Operator)
- Loader
600650 hp Engine Power |
52/20 km/h Speed Limit |
2830 deg/s Traverse |
18.1738.28 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
YesYes Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
AP//HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
145/2800/70
660/4400/260 Shell Cost |
150/150/190280/280/370 HP Damage |
143/171/38220/252/47 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
13.33 r/m Standard Gun ▲
7.69 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
▲
Standard Gun
▼
Standard Gun
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1999.5 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
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Standard Gun
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2153.2 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.34 m With 50% Crew: 0.421 m ▲
0.35 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.434 m |
s 2.1 s 2 Aim time |
1618 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed |
360° Gun Arc |
-10°/+20°-10°/+20° Elevation Arc |
6030 rounds Ammo Capacity |
2020 % Chance of Fire |
m 360 m 370 View Range |
m 450 m 700 Signal Range |
VII
1380000
The Challenger is a British tier 7 tank destroyer.
Created in 1942 based on the extended chassis of the Cromwell. One definite advantage of the new vehicle was its 17-pounder gun, which was the most powerful British gun at that time. This allowed the tank destroyer to effectively hit the enemy at distances up to 1,000 meters. However, the vehicle had a large silhouette and the chassis was overloaded. A total of about 200 vehicles were built.
The Challenger leads to the Charioteer.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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V | Rolls-Royce Meteor | 600 | 20 | 744 | 14000 | |
V | Rolls-Royce Meteor Mk. IVB | 650 | 20 | 744 | 16000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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VI | Challenger | 33.5 | 28 | 0 | 7500 | 15000 | |
VII | Avenger | 36.8 | 30 | 0 | 7500 | 21000 |
Tier | Radio | Signal Range (m) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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VII | WS No. 19 Mk. II | 450 | 40 | 21000 | |
VIII | WS No. 22 | 700 | 40 | 25000 | |
VIII | WS No. 19 Mk. III | 550 | 40 | 22000 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Very fast speed and surprisingly good traverse (for a TD), can let it play a flanking role or fall back when in danger
- Gun depression is'nt too shabby, especially compared to the AT 7
- Wonderful Gun handling and accuracy lets even amateurs nail shots frequently ( if they pen is another question )
- Very fast RoF compensates it's horrible Alpha damage
- Has a turret and pivots unlike most at tier TD's
Cons:
- Not particularly good penetration on gun, 171 mm of pen. Is ok at its tier, but will struggle with higher tier engagements
- Large size and thin armor makes you easy pickings for enemy tanks ( especially arty )
- While not horrible for a TD, the hull and turret travers could be better
- Easily the 2nd worst tier VII TD (Still better than Sturer Emil); The grind to the Charioteer will be long and painful
- 2nd turret has a mere 40mm of frontal armor ( 200 mm on the back, This is only useful very occasionally)
Performance
The 17-pdr gun which was devastating on the Archer and still very good on the Achilles is painfully sub-par on the Challenger. With 171 penetration, you'll find standard rounds unable to penetrate most tier VIII and IX tanks frontally. It's large silhouette and poor camouflage values make this tank difficult to conceal (even with camo-oriented setup, most enemies will spot you from about 350m), and the thin armour won't block many shots.
The role of this tank is long-range sniping. Its decent mobility allows to take advantageous positions early and quickly change positions, should such need arise. Avoid close-range fighting - poor armour, slow traverse and low accuracy while moving make you an easy prey for most light and medium tanks you encounter. After the Buff in update 9.15, it is a very effective flanking tank, especially with the top gun and turret and on maps such as malinovka, where the good maneuverability and fast-firing gun will allow you to harass enemy tanks from behind rather effectively.
An interesting thing to note is that the stock turret of the Challenger is very similar to the turret on the TOG II*. This is not coincidental; during development, the TOG II* was fitted with a variety of turrets, the final configuration seen today in the Bovington Tank Museum and in the game used the Challenger's turret.
Early Research
The first thing that you definitely want to research is the gun, the tanks is useless without the second gun and so it is a must.
Next, research the second turret, as it will give you a huge RoF boost and is actually lighter than the first.
After this, research everything else in any order, it doesn't really matter.
External Reviews and Opinions
Gallery
Historical Info
The design compromises made in fitting the large gun onto the Cromwell chassis resulted in a tank with a powerful weapon, but with less armour. The extemporised Sherman Firefly conversion of the US-supplied Sherman was easier to produce and, combined with delays in production, meant that only 200 Challengers were built. However, it was able to keep up with the fast Cromwell tank and was used alongside them.
The driving force in the development of Challenger was Roy Robotham. Robotham had been a Rolls-Royce executive in the car division who, with no work to do, had led a team to develop a tank powerplant from the Rolls-Royce Merlin aircraft engine. The Rolls-Royce Meteor gave the British a powerful, reliable engine, which would power the A27M Cruiser Mk VIII Cromwell tank. Robotham's contributions gained him a place in the Ministry of Supply and on the Tank Board, despite his lack of experience in tank design.[5]
The General Staff brought forward specification A29 for a 45-ton 17-pounder-armed cruiser tank based on needs identified in the African desert campaign. The design weight of this vehicle was too heavy however, and prior to manufacture the specification was passed over in favour of the alternate specification, A30 at 10 tons lighter.[6]
In 1942, an order for an A30 based tank was placed with Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Company (BRC&W) expecting it to be based on the Cromwell components also being manufactured by BRC&W. Turret and gun mounting was in the hands of Stothert & Pitt. Birmingham Carriage had to modify the Cromwell hull to take a bigger turret.
The design received additional emphasis when it was found in May 1943 that the Cromwell was not going to be able to fit its intended armament. Vickers had been developing a 50-calibre-long 75mm "High Velocity" tank gun. It was realised late in the design process that the Cromwell's turret ring was too small to mount this 75 mm (3.0 in) gun.[7] Thus the Challenger would be the only British cruiser tank to mount a weapon that could tackle heavier German armour until the arrival of the A34 Comet.
British tank production was a limited resource however, and insufficient numbers could be made. In the lead-up to D-Day, Sherman tanks were upgraded with the 17-pounder creating the interim Sherman Firefly. Conversions of Sherman tanks to Fireflys was simpler than production of Challenger, and the A30 order was cancelled after about 200 had been built allowing BRC&W to focus on production of the Cromwell.
The tank was rendered obsolete when the Vickers HV 75 mm gun was developed to become the 77mm HV (actually 76.2 mm calibre) to arm the Comet tank. The 77mm HV used the same projectiles as the 17-pounder although with a reduced propellent charge compared to the 17-pdr. The 17-pdr was briefly used on earlier marks of Cromwell's successor -the Centurion tank.
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
The Challenger in this game is an amalgamation of the Challenger cruiser tank and the Avenger tank destroyer. The Avenger utilised a new hull based on the Comet cruiser tank; the turret was never fitted to a Challenger.