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?The SU-85 is a superb tier 5 USSR [[Tank Destroyers|tank destroyer]] for its tier and can mount the destructive 107mm ZiS-6S gun, able to rip-up many tanks higher than its own tier with ease. Combined with its small profile and good mobility, this tank can't be underestimated. But, avoid all frontline combat since you can be killed easily. With decent accuracy, modest penetration, and great damage, the 107 mm ZiS-6S cannon is an absolute priority, and definitely the first choice of every Su-85 driver. The tank also is no longer open top which makes it less likely to be killed in one hit.+The SU-85 is a superb USSR [[Tank Destroyers|tank destroyer]] for its tier and can mount the destructive 107mm ZiS-6S gun, able to rip-up many tanks higher than its own tier with ease. Combined with its small profile and good mobility, this tank can't be underestimated. But, avoid all frontline combat since you can be killed easily. With decent accuracy, modest penetration, and great damage, the 107 mm ZiS-6S cannon is an absolute priority, and definitely the first choice of every Su-85 driver. The tank also is no longer open top which makes it less likely to be killed in one hit.
  
 It is highly recommended you skip the 122mm M-30S, as it is an HE-only gun and much better guns are available soon. Still, the 122mm does offer massive damage and can, in fact, kill most tier 4 tanks with one shot. You need a steady hand with its 0.5 accuracy to shoot targets beyond 150 meters: this gun is better suited for rushing rather than sniping. Whether sniping or rushing, don't forget you have low armor and can't take many hits. Choose your gun and snipe with patience, or rush with caution. It is highly recommended you skip the 122mm M-30S, as it is an HE-only gun and much better guns are available soon. Still, the 122mm does offer massive damage and can, in fact, kill most tier 4 tanks with one shot. You need a steady hand with its 0.5 accuracy to shoot targets beyond 150 meters: this gun is better suited for rushing rather than sniping. Whether sniping or rushing, don't forget you have low armor and can't take many hits. Choose your gun and snipe with patience, or rush with caution.

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SU-85

SU-85
USSR TD Tier V
Totals
Cost 360,900  Credits
Health 350
Weight/Load Limit 29.02/31.4t
Crew
4
Mobility
Engine Power 480hp
Speed Limit 55km/h
Traverse Speed 33deg/s
Armor
Hull Armor 45/45/40mm
Armament
Damage 86-144HP
Penetration 82-136mm
Rate of Fire 16.67r/m
Accuracy 0.34m
Aim time 2s
Gun Traverse 56deg/s
Gun Traverse Arc 30/30°
Gun Vertical Limits gunVerticalLimits
Ammo Capacity ammo
General
Chance of Fire 15%
View Range 320m
Signal Range 370m
Parent Contour-USSR-GAZ-74b.pngContour-USSR-T-34.png
Child Contour-USSR-SU-100.png
Values Are Stock // Top
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The SU-85 is a superb USSR tank destroyer for its tier and can mount the destructive 107mm ZiS-6S gun, able to rip-up many tanks higher than its own tier with ease. Combined with its small profile and good mobility, this tank can't be underestimated. But, avoid all frontline combat since you can be killed easily. With decent accuracy, modest penetration, and great damage, the 107 mm ZiS-6S cannon is an absolute priority, and definitely the first choice of every Su-85 driver. The tank also is no longer open top which makes it less likely to be killed in one hit.

It is highly recommended you skip the 122mm M-30S, as it is an HE-only gun and much better guns are available soon. Still, the 122mm does offer massive damage and can, in fact, kill most tier 4 tanks with one shot. You need a steady hand with its 0.5 accuracy to shoot targets beyond 150 meters: this gun is better suited for rushing rather than sniping. Whether sniping or rushing, don't forget you have low armor and can't take many hits. Choose your gun and snipe with patience, or rush with caution.

The SU-85 leads to the SU-100
















Modules

Gun
Tr
Nm
Dam
Pen
RoF
Acr
Aim
Pr
Wt
05V
76 mm S-54S
115/110/165(HP)
109/156/39(mm)
16.67(r/m)
0.34(m)
2.0(s)
00039 470 39 470 Credits.png
1 390 1 390(kg)
05V
122 mm M-30S
450/370(HP)
61/160(mm)
6(r/m)
0.50(m)
2.5(s)
00063 340 63 340 Credits.png
1 600 1 600(kg)
06VI
85 mm D-5S
160/160/280(HP)
120/161/43(mm)
15.38-15.46(r/m)
0.38(m)
2.0(s)
00061 530 61 530 Credits.png
1 500 1 500(kg)
07VII
107 mm ZiS-6S
300/300/360(HP)
167/219/54(mm)
7.79(r/m)
0.37(m)
2.3(s)
00070 850 70 850 Credits.png
2 400 2 400(kg)

Turret
SPGs and TDs don't have turret modules

Engine
Tr
Nm
Pw
CoF
Pr
Wt
05V
V-2
0480 480(h.p.)
015 15%
00018 750 18 750 Credits.png
0750 750(kg)
06VI
V-2-34
0500 500(h.p.)
015 15%
00027 860 27 860 Credits.png
0750 750(kg)

Suspension
Tr
Nm
LL
Tv
Pr
Wt
04IV
Mod. 1940 (4-speed gearbox)
31.4 31.4(t)
033 33(d/s)
00003 800 3 800 Credits.png
7 600 7 600(kg)
05V
Mod. 1942 (5-speed gearbox)
32.4 32.4(t)
035 35(d/s)
00008 640 8 640 Credits.png
7 600 7 600(kg)

Radio
Tr
Nm
SR
Pr
Wt
04IV
9R
0370 370(m)
00001 980 1 980 Credits.png
0100 100(kg)
08VIII
9RM
0600 600(m)
00024 240 24 240 Credits.png
0100 100(kg)

Historical Info

SU-85 Unknown Location

The SU-85 was a Soviet self-propelled gun used during World War II, based on the chassis of the T-34 medium tank. Earlier Soviet self-propelled guns were meant to serve as either assault guns, such as the SU-122, or as mobile anti-tank weapons: the SU-85 fell into the latter category. The designation SU-85 is derived as follows: 'SU' stands for the Russian: Samokhodnaya Ustanovka - self-propelled carriage, while "85" signifies the bore of the vehicle's armament, the 85 mm D-5T gun.

Development history

SU-85 at Czerniakow

Early in World War II, Soviet tanks such as the T-34 and KV-1 had enough firepower to destroy any German tank then available. However, in the fall of 1942, Soviet forces encountered the new German Tiger tank, with armor too thick to be penetrated by the 76.2 mm guns used in the T-34 and KV tanks at a safe range.[1] By spring 1943, the Soviets had also received reports of the new Panther tank, although the Panther was not seen in combat until July 1943, during the battle of Kursk. This new generation of German vehicles meant the Red Army needed a new and more powerful tank destroyer.

In May 1943, work was begun on both a new anti-tank gun and a redesign to the armament of the SU-122. Developers of the former put their efforts towards adapting the 85 mm heavy anti-aircraft gun, one of two types identified as best against the Tiger (the other being the 122 mm A-19). The SU-122, meanwhile, was rearmed with an existing 85 mm gun, the S-18, which was itself improved in the process. The production factory at Uralmash, which received the SU-122 design, attempted to reject the design as too expensive, since the larger gun breech meant that the entire hull would need to be modified, but it was required nevertheless to put the design into production.

Of the SU-85, several prototypes were rejected for design flaws, but after several changes, which included changing the gun to a D-5T, one was put into service as the SU-85.[1] At the same time, the 85mm D-5S, which had proven both effective and reliable, was modified to include a telescopic sight and a new ball mantlet design and retitled the SU-85-II.[1]

Description

SU-85 with Camo Net

The SU-85 was a modification of the earlier SU-122 self-propelled howitzer, essentially replacing the 122 mm M-30S howitzer of the SU-122 with a D-5T high-velocity 85 mm antitank gun. The 85 mm gun was effective against Panther and Tiger tanks at long range. The vehicle was small, highly mobile, and well armored.

Production history

SU-85 production started in mid-1943, with the first vehicles reaching their units by August. When the up-gunned T-34-85 medium tank entered mass production in the spring of 1944, there was no point in continuing production of a tank destroyer without superior firepower,[2] so SU-85 production was stopped in late 1944 after 2,050 vehicles had been produced. It was replaced on the production lines by the SU-100 tank destroyer, armed with the more powerful 100 mm D-10S gun. There were two versions: the basic SU-85 had a fixed commander's cupola with a rotating periscope and three vision blocks; the improved SU-85M had the same casemate as the SU-100, with a commander's cupola as used on the T-34-85.

Service history

SU-85 tank destroyer of the Polish 13th Self-Propelled Artillery Regiment. This vehicle is missing its right first road wheel and its front fenders. The SU-85 entered combat in August 1943. It saw active service in Soviet, Polish, and Czechoslovak forces on the Eastern Front until the end of the war. It was obsolete by 1945, and was withdrawn from active service not long after the war to be exported to many Soviet client states in Europe and elsewhere. The SU-85 remained in service longer in North Korea and Vietnam.[3] The similar SU-100 remained in service much longer, and some SU-85 and SU-100 were converted and used as command and recovery vehicles.[4]

Variants

Former Soviet Union

Polish 13th SU-85
  • SU-85-I - First SU-85 prototype, rejected for space concerns. Armed with 85 mm S-18 gun. [1]
  • SU-85-IV - Second prototype also with a standard hull of the SU-122 but it had a larger ball mantlet, different from the one used in SU-85-I. Armed with 85 mm S-18 gun. [1]
  • SU-85-II - Third SU-85 prototype with the new 85 mm D-5S gun, a new TSh-15 sight, and a new ball mantlet design. [1]
  • SU-85 - Main production model armed with 85 mm D-5T gun.
  • SU-85M - SU-85 with the casemate from the SU-100 tank destroyer, which was larger and could carry up to 60 rounds instead of 48. It also had the same commander's cupola as the one used in the T-34-85.[1]
  • SU-85T - SU-85 converted into an ARV.
  • SU-85-III - Fourth SU-85 prototype with a modified commander's cupola, with direct vision slots and covers.

Poland

WPT-34 (1960s) - Polish repair and maintenance vehicle with a superstructure replacing the casemate, a crane, a large-diameter telescoping snorkel for deep fording operations, as well as a large-spade type earth anchor in the rear. It was converted from SU-85 tank destroyers as well as T-34 medium tanks and SU-100 tank destroyers.



Soviet Tanks
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Tank Destroyers AT-1  • SU-76  • SU-85B  • SU-85  • SU-85I  • SU-100  • SU-100Y  • SU-100M1  • SU-122-44  • SU-152  • ISU-152  • SU-101  • Object 704  • SU-122-54  • Object 263  • Object 268
Self-Propelled Guns SU-18  • SU-26  • SU-5  • SU-122A  • SU-8  • S-51  • SU-14-1  • SU-14-2  • 212A  • Object 261



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Japan
Czechoslovakia
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