KV-85
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? | * 122mm | + | * Choice between faster firing 100mm S-34 gun with decent damage per shot and accuracy or 122mm D-2-5T which deals massive damage per shot for its tier. | |
* Good agility and among the fastest tier 6 heavies. | * Good agility and among the fastest tier 6 heavies. | |||
+ | * Acceptable stock grind | |||
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* Very slow reload and poor aim time on 122mm, inaccurate at long range. | * Very slow reload and poor aim time on 122mm, inaccurate at long range. | |||
? | * | + | * Low ammount of hitpoints combined with less side and rear armor makes the KV-85 unsuitable for soaking up damage for the team | |
? | * Very bad view range. | + | * Very bad view range. | |
+ | * 100mm S-34 gun is barely adequate when facing tier 8 opponents from the front, with just 210mm penetration on its APCR shells. | |||
|InTheGame_performance= | |InTheGame_performance= | |||
? | Although not as well armored as the T-150, the KV- | + | Although not as well armored as the T-150, the KV-85 trades armor for speed and maneuverability. The heavier armament mounted on the same hull makes the KV-85 slower than the KV-1S but it is still decently mobile. The 100mm S-34 gun has decent alpha damage, penetration and reloads and aims quickly. The 122mm D-2-5T gun, once feared on the KV-1S before patch 0.9.3, still delivers the same massive damage at the price of even more atrocious accuracy, reload and aim time than before. Therefore, a KV-85 with the 100mm S-34 might be seen more often on the battlefield than a KV-85 with the 122mm gun installed. With the 100mm S-34 gun, the KV-85 can quickly take care of opponents of its tier, but the lack of armor makes the KV-85 vulnerable to many opponents it faces. Additionally, the rather poor view range discourage KV-85 drivers to venture alone. The 100mm however, is barely adequate in dealing with tier 8 tanks through the front thus careful sideshots on distracted tanks are to be taken when facing these. In addition the top turret has a sluggish traverse, and despite the decent armor for its tier, it is no match for higher tier guns and can even fail the avid tanker against lower tier weapons. | |
? | Thus, in some sense, the KV- | + | Thus, in some sense, the KV-85 plays in a way that can be seen as slightly comparable to that of the American M6. The KV-85 has, like the M6, poor hull armor for its tier and class but decent mobility and a fast firing gun with decent damage output and accuracy. Unlike the M6 though, the KV-85 does not enjoy sufficient gun depression to make use of hull down positions. On the other hand, the sillouette of the KV-85 is smaller than that of the M6. | |
? | + | With the 122mm D-2-5T, the tank can become decisive in tier 6 matches as it can one-shot tanks that could prove a threat to lower tier comrades, such as the StuG III G, Hetzer, and Matilda. It can deal a massive blow to tanks such as the KV-1 and Churchill I with relative ease, but it needs cover during the very long reload time. A penetrating shot from the 122mm can roughly three-shot if not two-shot another KV-85. This allows the KV-85 to take opponents right off the field, denying the opposing team a set of eyes and a gun, which can prove fatal to a team's chances of victory. | ||
? | + | At higher tiers, the penetration of either the D-2-5T or S-34 makes things less easy, as shells will often bounce off most of the tier 7 heavies with even a little frontal armor angling. Firing into a tier 8 Heavy from the front is a bold move in itself as the IS-3 can very easily shrug off the shell. Shots at the sides and rear of distracted opponents may be the only chance to deal damage to higher tier opponents without getting killed quickly. | ||
? | + | Thus, the KV-85 with its not very good armor makes spearheading with this tank virtually a suicide run. Yet this tank will very highly reward players who make effective and efficient use of the "Peek-a-boom" tactic with the 122mm. Popping out from behind buildings or rocks, taking as much time as possible to aim at a target, fire, and then diving back into said cover. When using the 100mm gun, camping a medium distance from the front lines and keeping up with the front is also a good option for this tank, as its accuracy makes long distance sniping possible. The decent mobility enables it to keep up with faster team mates which is more of a problem for slower heavies like the British Churchill VII. | ||
? | + | The KV-85 is even more potent in this situation if it is disregarded, higher tier tanks that do not see you as a serious threat to their health will think twice the second time around as you manage to land punishing blow after blow into their sides or weak spots while they are distracted. Ambushes from behind can also leave victims of the KV-85 as smoldering wrecks. | ||
? | + | The major goal of the KV-85 is to severely damage as many hostile tanks as possible, secondly as many kills as possible. The more hostiles you eliminate, the fewer you will have to face if your team fails to "Seal the Deal". As the last standing tank on your team, '''NEVER''' walk out in the open, especially if heavily damaged yourself. Stay near the base and wipe out tanks as soon as you see them. Face Hugging an opponent can potentially lead to a lucky bounce that can cost the enemy team any hope of victory if it is down to one on one. | ||
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? | The major goal of the KV- | + | ||
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? | It is highly advisable to make your way to the | + | It is highly advisable to make your way to the 100mm S-34 as quickly as you can, the 85mm D-5T can help considerably with unlocking the 100mm, but in order to equip it you need the upgraded turret and suspension. The upgraded engine should already been unlocked on the KV-1S so mound it immediately. If you prefer raw alpha damage over the DPM, accuracy and fast aim time of the S-34 the 122mm D-2-5T can be mounted. Unlocking the 122mm, even if you don't use it on the KV-85 is recommended before you proceed to the IS, as it can mount the D-2-5T as well before the faster firing D-25T gun is unlocked on that tank. | |
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KV-85
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900,000 Cost |
920194 HP Hit Points |
45.98/46.823.5/49 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator)
- Gunner
- Driver
- Loader
500600 hp Engine Power |
34/14 km/h Speed Limit |
2830 deg/s Traverse |
10.8725.53 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
NoNo Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
100/90/90100/90/90 mm Turret Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
AP/APCR/HE Shells |
109/2800/98
1025/4800/608 Shell Cost |
160/160/280390/390/530 HP Damage |
120/161/43175/217/61 mm Penetration |
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12.24 r/m Standard Gun ▲
3 Rate of Fire Standard Gun |
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Standard Gun
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Standard Gun
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1958.4 Standard Gun ▲
Standard Gun
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Standard Gun
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1170 Damage Per Minute Standard Gun |
m ▲
0.38 m With 50% Crew: 0.471 m ▲
0.5 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.619 m |
s 2.9 s 3.6 Aim time |
2828 deg/s Turret Traverse |
360° Gun Arc |
-3°/+23°-3°/+20° Elevation Arc |
7028 rounds Ammo Capacity |
1515 % Chance of Fire |
m 320 m 340 View Range |
m 325 m 440 Signal Range |
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The KV-85 is a Soviet tier 6 heavy tank.
A further development of the KV-1S tank. Unlike the previous modification, the KV-85 had enhanced armament. The vehicle was developed in the spring of 1943 at the Chelyabinsk Kirov Plant. The tank entered service on August 8, 1943, and was mass produced until September, with a total of 148 vehicles manufactured. The KV-85 was used by the breakthrough armored regiments of the Red Army.
The KV-85 marks the end of its Soviet heavy line.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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VII | V-2IS | 600 | 15 | 750 | 36000 | |
VI | V-2K | 500 | 15 | 750 | 23050 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
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V | KV-85 | 46.8 | 28 | B/2 | 12400 | 9100 | |
VI | KV-122 | 49 | 30 | B/2 | 12400 | 15390 |
Tier | Radio | Signal Range (m) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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IV | 9R | 325 | 80 | 1980 | |
V | 10R | 360 | 100 | 3660 | |
VII | 10RK | 440 | 100 | 18600 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Choice between faster firing 100mm S-34 gun with decent damage per shot and accuracy or 122mm D-2-5T which deals massive dama
- Good agility and among the fastest tier 6 heavies.
- Acceptable stock grind
Cons:
- Very slow reload and poor aim time on 122mm, inaccurate at long range.
- Low ammount of hitpoints combined with less side and rear armor makes the KV-85 unsuitable for soaking up damage for the team
- Very bad view range.
- 100mm S-34 gun is barely adequate when facing tier 8 opponents from the front, with just 210mm penetration on its APCR shells
Performance
Although not as well armored as the T-150, the KV-85 trades armor for speed and maneuverability. The heavier armament mounted on the same hull makes the KV-85 slower than the KV-1S but it is still decently mobile. The 100mm S-34 gun has decent alpha damage, penetration and reloads and aims quickly. The 122mm D-2-5T gun, once feared on the KV-1S before patch 0.9.3, still delivers the same massive damage at the price of even more atrocious accuracy, reload and aim time than before. Therefore, a KV-85 with the 100mm S-34 might be seen more often on the battlefield than a KV-85 with the 122mm gun installed. With the 100mm S-34 gun, the KV-85 can quickly take care of opponents of its tier, but the lack of armor makes the KV-85 vulnerable to many opponents it faces. Additionally, the rather poor view range discourage KV-85 drivers to venture alone. The 100mm however, is barely adequate in dealing with tier 8 tanks through the front thus careful sideshots on distracted tanks are to be taken when facing these. In addition the top turret has a sluggish traverse, and despite the decent armor for its tier, it is no match for higher tier guns and can even fail the avid tanker against lower tier weapons.
Thus, in some sense, the KV-85 plays in a way that can be seen as slightly comparable to that of the American M6. The KV-85 has, like the M6, poor hull armor for its tier and class but decent mobility and a fast firing gun with decent damage output and accuracy. Unlike the M6 though, the KV-85 does not enjoy sufficient gun depression to make use of hull down positions. On the other hand, the sillouette of the KV-85 is smaller than that of the M6.
With the 122mm D-2-5T, the tank can become decisive in tier 6 matches as it can one-shot tanks that could prove a threat to lower tier comrades, such as the StuG III G, Hetzer, and Matilda. It can deal a massive blow to tanks such as the KV-1 and Churchill I with relative ease, but it needs cover during the very long reload time. A penetrating shot from the 122mm can roughly three-shot if not two-shot another KV-85. This allows the KV-85 to take opponents right off the field, denying the opposing team a set of eyes and a gun, which can prove fatal to a team's chances of victory.
At higher tiers, the penetration of either the D-2-5T or S-34 makes things less easy, as shells will often bounce off most of the tier 7 heavies with even a little frontal armor angling. Firing into a tier 8 Heavy from the front is a bold move in itself as the IS-3 can very easily shrug off the shell. Shots at the sides and rear of distracted opponents may be the only chance to deal damage to higher tier opponents without getting killed quickly.
Thus, the KV-85 with its not very good armor makes spearheading with this tank virtually a suicide run. Yet this tank will very highly reward players who make effective and efficient use of the "Peek-a-boom" tactic with the 122mm. Popping out from behind buildings or rocks, taking as much time as possible to aim at a target, fire, and then diving back into said cover. When using the 100mm gun, camping a medium distance from the front lines and keeping up with the front is also a good option for this tank, as its accuracy makes long distance sniping possible. The decent mobility enables it to keep up with faster team mates which is more of a problem for slower heavies like the British Churchill VII.
The KV-85 is even more potent in this situation if it is disregarded, higher tier tanks that do not see you as a serious threat to their health will think twice the second time around as you manage to land punishing blow after blow into their sides or weak spots while they are distracted. Ambushes from behind can also leave victims of the KV-85 as smoldering wrecks.
The major goal of the KV-85 is to severely damage as many hostile tanks as possible, secondly as many kills as possible. The more hostiles you eliminate, the fewer you will have to face if your team fails to "Seal the Deal". As the last standing tank on your team, NEVER walk out in the open, especially if heavily damaged yourself. Stay near the base and wipe out tanks as soon as you see them. Face Hugging an opponent can potentially lead to a lucky bounce that can cost the enemy team any hope of victory if it is down to one on one.
Early Research
It is highly advisable to make your way to the 100mm S-34 as quickly as you can, the 85mm D-5T can help considerably with unlocking the 100mm, but in order to equip it you need the upgraded turret and suspension. The upgraded engine should already been unlocked on the KV-1S so mound it immediately. If you prefer raw alpha damage over the DPM, accuracy and fast aim time of the S-34 the 122mm D-2-5T can be mounted. Unlocking the 122mm, even if you don't use it on the KV-85 is recommended before you proceed to the IS, as it can mount the D-2-5T as well before the faster firing D-25T gun is unlocked on that tank.
Suggested Equipment
Gallery
Historical Info
Nonetheless, because of its initial superior performance, the KV-1 was chosen as one of the few tanks to continue being built following the Soviet reorganization of tank production. Due to the new standardization, it shared the similar engine (the KV used a 600 hp V-2K modification of the T-34's V-2 diesel engine) and gun (the KV had a ZiS-5 main gun, while the T-34 had a similar F-34 main gun) as the T-34, was built in large quantities, and received frequent upgrades.[citation needed]
When production shifted to the Ural Mountains 'Tankograd' complex, the KV-2 was dropped. While impressive on paper, it had been designed as a slow-moving bunker-buster. It was less useful in highly mobile, fluid warfare that developed in World War II. The turret was so heavy it was difficult to traverse on uneven terrain. Finally, it was expensive to produce. Only about 300 KV-2s were made, all in 1940-41, making it one of the rarer Soviet tanks.
As the war continued, the KV-1 continued to get more armour to compensate for the increasing effectiveness of German weapons. This culminated in the KV-1 model 1942 (German designation KV-1C), which had very heavy armour, but lacked a corresponding improvement to the engine. Tankers complained that, although they were well-protected, their mobility was poor and they had no firepower advantage over the T-34 medium tank.[citation needed]
In response to criticisms, the lighter KV-1S was released, with thinner armour and a smaller, lower turret in order to reclaim some speed. Importantly, the KV-1S also had a commander's cupola with all-around vision blocks, a first for a Soviet heavy tank. However, the thinning-out of the armor called into question why the tank was being produced at all, when the T-34 could seemingly do everything the KV could do and much more cheaply. The Soviet heavy tank program was close to cancellation in mid-1943.
The appearance of the German Panther tank in the summer of 1943 convinced the Red Army to make a serious upgrade of its tank force for the first time since 1941. Soviet tanks needed bigger guns to take on the growing numbers of Panthers and the few Tigers.
A stopgap upgrade to the KV series was the short-lived KV-85 or Objekt 239. This was a KV-1S with a new turret designed for the IS-85, mounting the same 85 mm D-5T gun as the SU-85 and early versions of the T-34-85; demand for the gun slowed production of the KV-85 tremendously and only 148 were built before the KV design was replaced. The KV-85 was produced in the autumn and winter of 1943-44; they were sent to the front as of September 1943 and production of the KV-85 was stopped by the spring of 1944 once the IS-2 entered full scale production.