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 +This tank is very horrible in terms of role performance to its tier.
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 +-Horrible damage
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 +The SU-5 starts out with two incompetent guns, 76mm and 122mm. The 76mm is a tier II gun, on a tier IV SPG; You're basically asking to be raped. The 122mm is exactly the same gun you had on your SU-26 except you are competing with even higher tier tanks and still asking to be raped. Your guns have no damage penetration so don't buy this tank and expect lots of kills. Unless you have gold to buy premium ammo, this tank is horrible period.
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 +Damage compared to other tier IV SPG's
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 +Russian SU-5
 +French 105 leFH18B2, damage: 410/350/350 penetration: 53/150/64 mm
 +German Grille, damage: 200/300/300 penetration: 75/75/228 mm
 +American M7 Priest, damage: 410/350 penetration: 53/150 mm
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 +-Horrible accuracy
 +
 +The aiming mechanics on the SU-26 are horrible. Unlike the SU-5, every 10 degrees you make your receptacle resets to its widest accuracy so you have no chance of hitting medium/fast tanks unless you take a guesstimated shot not to mention that the aim time makes even shooting stationary tanks ultra hard. This tank also has a noticeable firing delay when you fire shots; meters/second delayed already factored in. Don't believe me? Buy it and try it.
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 +-Speed
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 +This tank has a pretty good stock speed but you're not a scout; Just position yourself in a spot and stay hidden.
  
  

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Magazine-fed Gun

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Magazine-fed Gun

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Magazine-fed Gun

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Aim time
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It can be considered as the worst of the whole USSR branch by the players with lower skill, but it is actually much better than its predecessor SU-26 due to its 3rd weapon upgrades, the 152mm mortar NM mod. 1931. Including the highest firing rate amongst the tier 5 artillery weapons, higher splash range, more damage and moreover the higher penetration value. However 152mm mortar has one significant disadvantage; low ammo count. Stock, it starts with the underpowered 76mm Howitzer, but you should have spent the effort to get the 122mm howitzer with the SU-26 and thus, can start with that. Some players even prefer the 122mm howitzer to the 152mm mortar, because of its higher ammo count.

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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Radios

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Weight
(kg)
Price
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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Above average traverse speed
  • Above average rate of fire
  • Above average accuracy and aim time
  • Above average ammo capacity


Cons:


  • Below average hit points
  • Below average engine power and top speed
  • Below average armour
  • Below average damage and penetration
  • Below average gun traverse speed, gun arc, and elevation arc


Performance

This tank is very horrible in terms of role performance to its tier.

-Horrible damage

The SU-5 starts out with two incompetent guns, 76mm and 122mm. The 76mm is a tier II gun, on a tier IV SPG; You're basically asking to be raped. The 122mm is exactly the same gun you had on your SU-26 except you are competing with even higher tier tanks and still asking to be raped. Your guns have no damage penetration so don't buy this tank and expect lots of kills. Unless you have gold to buy premium ammo, this tank is horrible period.

Damage compared to other tier IV SPG's

Russian SU-5 French 105 leFH18B2, damage: 410/350/350 penetration: 53/150/64 mm German Grille, damage: 200/300/300 penetration: 75/75/228 mm American M7 Priest, damage: 410/350 penetration: 53/150 mm

-Horrible accuracy

The aiming mechanics on the SU-26 are horrible. Unlike the SU-5, every 10 degrees you make your receptacle resets to its widest accuracy so you have no chance of hitting medium/fast tanks unless you take a guesstimated shot not to mention that the aim time makes even shooting stationary tanks ultra hard. This tank also has a noticeable firing delay when you fire shots; meters/second delayed already factored in. Don't believe me? Buy it and try it.

-Speed

This tank has a pretty good stock speed but you're not a scout; Just position yourself in a spot and stay hidden.


Early Research

  • The 122 mm Howitzer mod. 1930, all the engines and radios carry over from the SU-26.
  • You should research first the suspension, since you need it to mount the 122mm.
  • Depending on your playstile, you can either stay with the 122mm or try to research early the 152mm Mortar for improved damage/penetration.


Suggested Equipment


Camouflage Net Artillery Shell Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Gallery

Historical Info

Self-propelled gun SU-5-1 armed with 76.2 mm divisional gun mod. 1902/30.

The SU-5 is another T-26 variant. Three prototypes were built in 1934 with a further 30 vehicles produced in 1936.

  • SU-5-1 — Self-propelled gun armed with the 76.2 mm divisional gun mod. 1902/30 (open-top type, the single vehicle was built in 1934).
  • SU-5-2 — Self-propelled gun armed with 122 mm howitzer mod. 1910/30 (open-top type; a single vehicle was built in 1934 and a further 30 vehicles in 1936).
  • SU-5-3 — Self-propelled gun armed with 152.4 mm divisional mortar mod. 1931 (open-top type, a single vehicle was built in 1934).



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