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Revision as of 08:12, 30 December 2012
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?|+|It can be considered as the worst of the whole USSR branch by the players with lower skill, but it is actually much better than its predecessor [[SU-26]] due to its 3rd weapon upgrades, the 152mm mortar NM mod. 1931. Including the highest firing rate amongst the tier 5 artillery weapons, higher splash range, more damage and moreover the higher penetration value. However 152mm mortar has one significant disadvantage; low ammo count. Stock, it starts with the underpowered 76mm Howitzer, but you should have spent the effort to get the 122mm howitzer with the SU-26 and thus, can start with that. Some players even prefer the 122mm howitzer to the 152mm mortar, because of its higher ammo count.
?It can be considered as the worst of the whole USSR branch by the players with lower skill, but it is actually much better than its predecessor [[SU-26]] due to its 3rd weapon upgrades, the 152mm mortar NM mod. 1931. Including the highest firing rate amongst the tier 5 artillery weapons, higher splash range, more damage and moreover the higher penetration value. However 152mm mortar has one significant disadvantage; low ammo count. Stock, it starts with the underpowered 76mm Howitzer, but you should have spent the effort to get the 122mm howitzer with the SU-26 and thus, can start with that. Some players even prefer the 122mm howitzer to the 152mm mortar, because of its higher ammo count.+
  
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?* Above average traverse speed+* Good damage (with 152mm)
?* Above average rate of fire+
?* Above average accuracy and aim time+
?* Above average ammo capacity+
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?* Below average hit points+* Poor top speed and traverse
?* Below average engine power and top speed+* Worthless armor
?* Below average armour+* Poor view range
?* Below average damage and penetration+* Poor ammo capacity (with 152mm)
?* Below average gun traverse speed, gun arc, and elevation arc+
?* Below average view and signal range+
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?* The 122 mm Howitzer mod. 1930, all the engines and radios carry over from the SU-26.+* All of the radios and engines carry over from the SU-26, as well as the 122 mm Howitzer mod. 1930 gun. Install the T-26F engine and 12LL radio immediately.
?* You should research first the suspension, since you need it to mount the 122mm.+* The 122 mm Howitzer mod. 1930 is too heavy for the stock suspension so research the upgraded suspension first.
?* Depending on your playstile, you can either stay with the 122mm or try to research early the 152mm Mortar for improved damage/penetration.+* The only thing left is to research the 152 mm Mortar NM mod. 1931.
 +* Depending on your play style, you can either stay with the 122mm or switch to the 152mm mortar for improved damage/penetration.
  
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?Camouflage Net, Artillery Shell Rammer, GLD+Artillery Shell Rammer, GLD, Camouflage Net
  
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 image:Su5d.jpg{{!}}Rear left image:Su5d.jpg{{!}}Rear left
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 * SU-5-2 — Self-propelled gun armed with 122 mm howitzer mod. 1910/30 (open-top type; a single vehicle was built in 1934 and a further 30 vehicles in 1936). * SU-5-2 — Self-propelled gun armed with 122 mm howitzer mod. 1910/30 (open-top type; a single vehicle was built in 1934 and a further 30 vehicles in 1936).
 * SU-5-3 — Self-propelled gun armed with 152.4 mm divisional mortar mod. 1931 (open-top type, a single vehicle was built in 1934). * SU-5-3 — Self-propelled gun armed with 152.4 mm divisional mortar mod. 1931 (open-top type, a single vehicle was built in 1934).
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It can be considered as the worst of the whole USSR branch by the players with lower skill, but it is actually much better than its predecessor SU-26 due to its 3rd weapon upgrades, the 152mm mortar NM mod. 1931. Including the highest firing rate amongst the tier 5 artillery weapons, higher splash range, more damage and moreover the higher penetration value. However 152mm mortar has one significant disadvantage; low ammo count. Stock, it starts with the underpowered 76mm Howitzer, but you should have spent the effort to get the 122mm howitzer with the SU-26 and thus, can start with that. Some players even prefer the 122mm howitzer to the 152mm mortar, because of its higher ammo count.

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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
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Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
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Traverse Speed
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Rmin Weight
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Price
(Credits)

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Radios

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Weight
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Price
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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Good damage (with 152mm)


Cons:


  • Poor top speed and traverse
  • Worthless armor
  • Poor view range
  • Poor ammo capacity (with 152mm)


Early Research

  • All of the radios and engines carry over from the SU-26, as well as the 122 mm Howitzer mod. 1930 gun. Install the T-26F engine and 12LL radio immediately.
  • The 122 mm Howitzer mod. 1930 is too heavy for the stock suspension so research the upgraded suspension first.
  • The only thing left is to research the 152 mm Mortar NM mod. 1931.
  • Depending on your play style, you can either stay with the 122mm or switch to the 152mm mortar for improved damage/penetration.


Suggested Equipment


Artillery Shell Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Camouflage Net 


Gallery

Historical Info

Self-propelled gun SU-5-1 armed with 76.2 mm divisional gun mod. 1902/30.

The SU-5 is another T-26 variant. Three prototypes were built in 1934 with a further 30 vehicles produced in 1936.

  • SU-5-1 — Self-propelled gun armed with the 76.2 mm divisional gun mod. 1902/30 (open-top type, the single vehicle was built in 1934).
  • SU-5-2 — Self-propelled gun armed with 122 mm howitzer mod. 1910/30 (open-top type; a single vehicle was built in 1934 and a further 30 vehicles in 1936).
  • SU-5-3 — Self-propelled gun armed with 152.4 mm divisional mortar mod. 1931 (open-top type, a single vehicle was built in 1934).



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