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 * Awesome mobility for a heavy tank; able to keep pace with some mediums * Awesome mobility for a heavy tank; able to keep pace with some mediums
?* Ability to rotate in place+* Ability to rotate in place and good terrain resistance
?* Top turret is very bouncy+* Top turret is very bouncy but relies more on slope than in thickness
?* Frontal hull armor is proof against many medium tank guns, making it ideal for hunting them+* Frontal hull armor is proof against many medium tank guns, lower plate is 120mm thick too
 +* Good DPM and soft stats with 105mm
  
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?* Weaker gun selection than most other tier 8 heavy tanks+* Weaker gun selection than most other tier 8 heavy tanks but still better than [[Tank:A12_T32|T32]]
?* Low penetration and lowish accuracy (by German standards) on 10,5 cm KwK 45+* Low penetration and lowish accuracy (by German standards) on 10,5 cm KwK 45 but still competitive
?* High silhouette+* High silhouette, like Tiger II
?* Only 120mm of frontal armor, making it weak to TDs+* Only 120mm of frontal armor, making it weak to TDs and heavy tanks
 +* Poor gun depression
  
  

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Magazine-fed Gun

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Aim time
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Signal Range
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Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)

Camouflage

  • Stationary: 4.3%
  • When Moving: 2.3%
  • When Firing: 1.1%


Terrain Resistance

  • On Hard Ground: 1.06
  • On Medium Ground: 1.25
  • On Soft Ground: 2.21


Dispersion Change Values

  • Turret Contribution
  • Rotation: 0.1
  • Shot Recoil: 2.88
  • Suspension Contribution
  • Acceleration: 0.19
  • Turning: 0.19


With 100% Crew

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This tank has weaker guns and thinner armour than the Tiger II, but has much better mobility. Its armour is also well sloped like the Tiger II, making it a hard nut to crack. The most noticeable differences from its brother, the VK 45.02(P) Ausf. B, is that the Ausf. A's turret is mounted at the front instead of at the back, that the Ausf. A is much nimbler, and that the Ausf A. has weaker armour and gun selection.

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Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
( Credits)

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Radios

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Weight
(kg)
Price
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Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Awesome mobility for a heavy tank; able to keep pace with some mediums
  • Ability to rotate in place and good terrain resistance
  • Top turret is very bouncy but relies more on slope than in thickness
  • Frontal hull armor is proof against many medium tank guns, lower plate is 120mm thick too
  • Good DPM and soft stats with 105mm


Cons:


  • Weaker gun selection than most other tier 8 heavy tanks but still better than T32
  • Low penetration and lowish accuracy (by German standards) on 10,5 cm KwK 45 but still competitive
  • High silhouette, like Tiger II
  • Only 120mm of frontal armor, making it weak to TDs and heavy tanks
  • Poor gun depression


Performance

Use the mobility as advantage; do not expose your tank for long times, your armour isn't that good. Luckily, the sheer speed of this tank allows decent wolf packing with mediums and assaults on flanks where only mediums will be met. While not the best against heavies of the tier, the gun and armour of this tank is more than enough against mediums. Due to both well sloped armor, which reliably will bounce shells below 200mm penetration and its maneuverability it will excel at hunting down mediums and light tanks, which if played well, will have a hard time circling the VK. Always remember to slope your armour, as even the infamous IS-3 can bounce a well-angled VK. The turret armor on the other hand is as strong as the Tiger II's: use this to your advantage. Under certain rare circumstances, the VK's armour can deflect shots from tier 10 heavies such as the E-100 or IS-7 Because of your weaker than average gun, you should prefer support role with other heavies. Front line is not the place for this machine. One exception of this rule: if you are top tier, you should consider playing a more active role.

The accuracy of the cannon will also allow the VK to stay at medium range, which will help improve the chance of bouncing enemy fire. However, the cannon has subpar penetration which will make it hard to penetrate some tier 8 and 9 heavy tanks. If possible conduct flanking actions. Keep in mind, though, that the size of the VK makes it a lucrative target for artillery, which will be able deal massive damage to the poorly armored hull.


Early Research

  • The 8,8cm KwK 43 L/71 gun, the 2x Porsche Typ 100/3 engine, and the FuG 12 radio all carry over from the Tiger P; however the upgraded suspension is needed in order to mount all three.
  • After researching the upgraded suspension, either the 10,5cm KwK 45 L/52 gun or the upgraded turret may be mounted depending on whether you want the additional armour or the increase in damage first.
  • Go from there.


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationTank Gun Rammer Vertical Stabilizer Coated Optics 


Gallery

Historical Info

After the VK 45.01 (P) failed to win the contract, Dr. Porsche began looking at ways to improve the design for a future version. Based on the latest Allied tank designs, however, it was clear that simply increasing the armor on the VK 45.01 (P) would not be enough for the tank to remain competitive. It needed to have both more weight and more maneuverability. What initially began as a single vehicle, entitled "Typ 180" grew into a series of five different vehicles, requiring the development of two hull configurations (one with the turret in the front, the other with the turret in the rear), both an electric and a hydraulic drive system, and four different engines. The overall project came to be known as VK 45.02 (P) and the five configurations came to be:


  • Typ 180A: Electric drive with Porsche Typ 101/3 gasoline engines.
  • Typ 180B: Electric drive with Porsche Typ 101/4 gasoline engines.
  • Typ 181A: Voith II hydraulic drive with Porsche Typ 101/3 gasoline engines.
  • Typ 181B: Voith II hydraulic drive with Porsche Deutz Typ 180/1 diesel engines.
  • Typ 181C: Voith II hydraulic drive with Porsche Deutz Typ 180/2 diesel engines.


A new turret for the VK 4502 (P) had to be developed after it was determined that the 8.8cm Flak 41 could not be installed in the VK 4501 (P) turret. Records appear to indicate that the design was finalized by May 7, 1942, because Krupp reported difficulties shaping the turret's specially rounded front. The rounded front reduced the frontal target area, and thus it would not present the shot-trap that became apparent in the initial production design of the Henschel Tiger II. The rounded front of the turret would then line up with the sloped frontal armor (albeit only on the chassis with the front-mounted turret).

Initially an order for 200 complete VK 4502 (P) tanks was authorized in April of 1942, with the first four to be delivered in October. Unfortunately, Dr. Porsche's fascination with advanced (and unproven) engine design doomed the project when the 10-cylinder engines he designed for the tank failed during trials. Given that Dr. Porsche's previous failures used engines with the same drive train layout, the Wehrmacht had no confidence he would succeed in making it into a dependable engine. As a result, all contracts relating to the VK 4502 (P) were rescinded in November of 1942. Porsche nevertheless continued working on the design up to the summer of 1944. By then, the design had a hydraulic drive, a suspension, and a working 900 metric horsepower air-cooled diesel engine.

Ultimately, only the turret was used as an upgrade for the existing Henschel Tiger II design.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

There are no historical records of a 'VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A Schwerer Turm' turret.
  • One of the VK 45.02 (P)'s historical armaments, the 8,8 cm Flak 41 L/74 (the Pz.Sfl. IVc's top gun), is missing.
  • There is no indication that the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 or 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/52 guns were to have ever been fitted to either of the VK 45.02 (P) projects.
  • Frontal armor is actually much thinner than the in-game version, measuring only 80 mm on the upper glacis.


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