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 :If the images you are using are copyrighted material, then you should follow whatever limitations the image may carry. Other than that, listing sources when using third party media is always a good practice. --[[User:Haswell:na|Haswell:na]] ([[User talk:Haswell:na|talk]]) 05:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC) :If the images you are using are copyrighted material, then you should follow whatever limitations the image may carry. Other than that, listing sources when using third party media is always a good practice. --[[User:Haswell:na|Haswell:na]] ([[User talk:Haswell:na|talk]]) 05:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
  
?Ok, finished the dispersion article, will move on to the shell type article soon.+Ok, finished the dispersion section, will move on to the shell type section soon. Another request: there should probably be multiple battle-mechanics pages. This is a list they have at the Russian wiki, which makes sense to me:
? +
?Another request: there should probably be multiple battle-mechanics pages. This is a list they have at the Russian wiki, which makes sense to me:+
 * Matchmaker (can provide a cross-table of matchmaking by tier, which is at the Russian forum) * Matchmaker (can provide a cross-table of matchmaking by tier, which is at the Russian forum)
?* Main Caliber (or "Artillery") -- the article I'm working on now. Would it make sense to separate fire mechanics into its own article? If so, anti-air would deserve its own article as well+* Main Caliber (or perhaps "Artillery") -- the article I'm working on now. Would it make sense to separate fire mechanics into its own article? If so, anti-air would deserve its own article as well
 * Spotting -- spotting mechanics, spotting ranges, camo, smoke, etc. * Spotting -- spotting mechanics, spotting ranges, camo, smoke, etc.
 * Torpedoes -- including reaction time table that's been floating around * Torpedoes -- including reaction time table that's been floating around
 * Airplanes (CV/spotters) -- anti-air mechanics would go in here as well, unless it's a separate article.'' * Airplanes (CV/spotters) -- anti-air mechanics would go in here as well, unless it's a separate article.''

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Hi there! Please leave your message after the beep, I'll get back to you as soon as I can if your message sounds important to me! Haswell:na (talk) 07:54, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Adding Ship Info

Hey Haswell, you might recognize me from attempting to help out with keeping the wiki up to date up until 4.0 and some others stuff. anyway my question is I would still enjoy being helpful by adding current data to the existing ships that still have some blank spots. Most notably the Ship Stats under the profile picture (armor, guns, engine, etc.) although due to my inexperience with editing wiki, I was wondering if you could tell or teach me how to plug data in so I could possibly help with the load with you guys managing this. If not I understand but I just like to be helpful. Right now im happy in just plugging info in under the stat section for now but happy to do more if you guys want me to. Hope to hear from you. --Scinfaxi:na (talk) 21:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hey Scinfaxi, of course I remember you! As you can see right now, the sidebar for ships pages only display armor, hit points and cost, I'm planning on adding the other data lines later this week.

The way the template works is by using extensions connected to the WG database and API, data can be returned upon request as long as there is proper input. Feel free to take a look at the templates here and here to get a grasp on what is going on right now, you will note that the data doesn't need to be manually entered for each ship at all, everything is automated. The two templates right now are protected, but you can try copying the two template codes to new pages for experimentation of your own.

One great help you can do for me right now is to go back to the ships pages and check if the entered templates are correct. Some of the pages lack the in-game research and opinion sections as they were created before the template was revised, so this is an issue that would need fixing sooner or later. One relatively quick way to identify which pages were created prior to the big revamp is to check the [of renamed pages performed on June 26 here], but beyond that you'd have to manually go into each page and check the code for the template.

Another issue unrelated to ships that needs fixing is filling out new vehicle pages. Since the wiki staff are never informed of any new addition of vehicles in any of the game titles, pages need to be monitored manually to identify which of them are newly added and lack the vehicle templates. I've created a master vehicle list just for this purpose, so I can quickly check which pages need to be initialized with the corresponding template. You can find the templates on my user page, it would be a big help to me if you can help fill out the uncreated pages.

I'm also now granting you contributor group rights, this should allow you to move and reupload files and pages along with other new options, they should make it easier to edit and update content.

Feel free contact me again if you have any concerns or questions.

--Haswell:na (talk) 02:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


Sure i'd be happy to help out. Perhaps you could purposely give me a ship page to edit for me to practice on. Just tell step by step how to do it and I will for any future pages that need it. Also on our master vehicle list, the Warplanes section has the WoT vehicles instead, just a heads up.--Scinfaxi:na (talk) 23:55, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

This is the template for ships. It's divided up into the description, player opinions, historical and reference sections. Take the Cleveland page for example, the lines for performance and research are missing because the page was created before the template was updated. There are other ship pages with this issue as well, so you'd have to go through them and see which ones have incomplete templates. Adding the lines back in should be straightforward. --Haswell:na (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


Ok, i'll try to update the Cleveland page then. check it out and see if it looks right, I put In the template you gave. I Also updated every single ship page with an outdated template (mainly just adding the research and performance parts. But I managed to go through every single ship and add missing template info and even adding some wiki info to the historical sections.--Scinfaxi:na (talk) 20:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
If theres anything else I can do, just ask.--Scinfaxi:na (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

So far, nothing aside from daily patrols and the ships template that I keep putting aside due to laziness :P. The WG wiki doesn't really attract much traffic. --Haswell:na (talk) 12:30, 15 July 2015 (UTC)


Ok, well keep me informed on anything I can do here or on any of the other wiki pages too. Just message me here if theres something I can do. On that note, do oyu have the two new premium tanks for WoT PC done then?--Scinfaxi:na (talk) 22:29, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

New prem tanks? I know there's the Japanese Tiger, then there's the spacepanzer 1c replacing the awfulpanther, anything I missed?
Speaking of work, there were 2 and half nutjobs running around and making a mess earlier, you should be able to find that in the recent changes. It will be great if you can double check if anything got overlooked. Other than that, the normal routine of periodic patrols should pretty much cover the majority of maintenance work on the wiki. That's what I do most of the time anyways. --Haswell:na (talk) 15:31, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


My bad, I didn't mean 2 premium tanks, but yea those were the two. Just curious, how far in advance are you able to know the new vehicles being deployed into a game? Also, I checked every warships and couldn't find any tampering with info, all looks clean. Lastly, I was curious if I could add certain ship data about ships that replaced ones in the Alpha or CBT, for example, saying how the Hashidate replaced the Katori; or how the Independence was moved to tier 6 and replaced the Saipan, etc...--Scinfaxi:na (talk) 00:11, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

It depends on the circumstances surrounding the vehicles. Sometimes they can be found in the game client itself complete with stats and models (eg. French Sherman, Chinese Patton/Type 59 hybrid thing, autoloading IS-3), other times in the wiki database. The Japanese Tiger in this case was included in the client files since 9.8.
As long as the stuff with ships doesn't break the NDA it's fine by me. AFAIK the NDA lift back then also allowed stuff from Alpha to be disclosed, so it shouldn't be a problem. You would probably know more about this than I do, I'm just the librarian.
Note to myself: add line breaks after signature to lessen eyesores. I also have a habit of not closing HTML tags. Oh well. --Haswell:na (talk) 11:33, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I see, does it help to get a heads up of vehicles that "might" be upcoming in future updates? Or is it better to wait until official announcement on the websites? Like I know a few videos and sources who say they know what vehicles are coming in future updates.--Scinfaxi:na (talk) 23:50, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Usually no, a heads up might remind me "hey, there's a so and so tank that will pop up on the wiki soon, keep an eye out", but that's about the extent of the notification. My general procedure would be something like checking if the vehicle is available ingame, check if the page is made visible on the wiki, then build the wiki page with the template before someone else decides to create it with random comments like "this is a new tank, it has a big gun". Unofficial sources aren't really that useful since the vehicles are either found in the client files, or they aren't. Things like the upcoming Japanese heavy tank line is basically forgettable until it's actually in the game. --Haswell:na (talk) 08:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)



Game Mechanics

Hi, added some game mechanics stuff. Mostly dispersion for now; I'll add AP/HE information later on.

I've never done wiki editing before, so this is all new to me. How do I insert images into the article (for now I left imgur links)? Do I have to provide the copyright for all the images? Should I register somehow?

You can upload images to the wiki directly and display them using the wiki syntax. More info can be found here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images
If the images you are using are copyrighted material, then you should follow whatever limitations the image may carry. Other than that, listing sources when using third party media is always a good practice. --Haswell:na (talk) 05:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok, finished the dispersion section, will move on to the shell type section soon. Another request: there should probably be multiple battle-mechanics pages. This is a list they have at the Russian wiki, which makes sense to me:

  • Matchmaker (can provide a cross-table of matchmaking by tier, which is at the Russian forum)
  • Main Caliber (or perhaps "Artillery") -- the article I'm working on now. Would it make sense to separate fire mechanics into its own article? If so, anti-air would deserve its own article as well
  • Spotting -- spotting mechanics, spotting ranges, camo, smoke, etc.
  • Torpedoes -- including reaction time table that's been floating around
  • Airplanes (CV/spotters) -- anti-air mechanics would go in here as well, unless it's a separate article.