SU-14-2

SU-14-2

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2.720.000   Kosten

41082 HP Struktur

63.99/6421.27/66 t Höchstgewicht

Besatzung

1. Kommandant (Funker)
2. Richtschütze
3. Richtschütze
4. Fahrer
5. Ladeschütze
6. Ladeschütze

Mobilität

500700 hp Motorleistung

30/8 km/h Höchstgeschwindigkeit

1416 deg/s Wendegeschwindigkeit

7.8132.91 hp/t Leistungsgewicht

YesYes Pivot

Panzerung

// mm Wannenpanzerung

Bewaffnung

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600/800/440900/1200/600 HP Schaden

38/48/21652/65/258 mm Durchschlag

| |}} | |}} 2.22 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 27 s 50% Crew: 33.45 s 75% Crew: 29.2 s 100% Crew: 25.89 s Rammer: 23.3 s Vents: 25.32 s Both: 22.79 s Both and BiA: 22.29 s Both and Max Crew %: 21.37 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. | |}} | |}} 1.36 r/m  ▲ Standard Gun Reload Times Nominal: 44 s 50% Crew: 54.51 s 75% Crew: 47.59 s 100% Crew: 42.19 s Rammer: 37.97 s Vents: 41.26 s Both: 37.13 s Both and BiA: 36.33 s Both and Max Crew %: 34.82 s See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information. Feuerrate

| |}} | |}} 1332 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (600 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1332 50% Crew: 1074 75% Crew: 1230 100% Crew: 1392 100% Crew Vents: 1422 Rammer: 1548 Both: 1584 Both and BiA: 1614 Both and Max Crew %: 1686 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1932 50% Crew: 1674 75% Crew: 1830 100% Crew: 1992 100% Crew Rammer: 2148 Vents: 2022 Both: 2184 Both and BiA: 2214 Both and Max Crew %: 2286 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (800 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1776 50% Crew: 1432 75% Crew: 1640 100% Crew: 1856 100% Crew Vents: 1896 Rammer: 2064 Both: 2112 Both and BiA: 2152 Both and Max Crew %: 2248 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2576 50% Crew: 2232 75% Crew: 2440 100% Crew: 2656 100% Crew Rammer: 2864 Vents: 2696 Both: 2912 Both and BiA: 2952 Both and Max Crew %: 3048 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (440 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 976.8 50% Crew: 787.6 75% Crew: 902 100% Crew: 1020.8 100% Crew Vents: 1042.8 Rammer: 1135.2 Both: 1161.6 Both and BiA: 1183.6 Both and Max Crew %: 1236.4 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1416.8 50% Crew: 1227.6 75% Crew: 1342 100% Crew: 1460.8 100% Crew Rammer: 1575.2 Vents: 1482.8 Both: 1601.6 Both and BiA: 1623.6 Both and Max Crew %: 1676.4 See here, here, or here for more information. | |}} | |}} 1224 ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 1 (900 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1224 50% Crew: 990 75% Crew: 1134 100% Crew: 1278 100% Crew Vents: 1305 Rammer: 1422 Both: 1449 Both and BiA: 1485 Both and Max Crew %: 1548 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2124 50% Crew: 1890 75% Crew: 2034 100% Crew: 2178 100% Crew Rammer: 2322 Vents: 2205 Both: 2349 Both and BiA: 2385 Both and Max Crew %: 2448 See here, here, or here for more information. ▼ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 2 (1200 Damage): With wholly penetrating hits Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 1632 50% Crew: 1320 75% Crew: 1512 100% Crew: 1704 100% Crew Vents: 1740 Rammer: 1896 Both: 1932 Both and BiA: 1980 Both and Max Crew %: 2064 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 2832 50% Crew: 2520 75% Crew: 2712 100% Crew: 2904 100% Crew Rammer: 3096 Vents: 2940 Both: 3132 Both and BiA: 3180 Both and Max Crew %: 3264 See here, here, or here for more information. ▲ Standard Gun Using Shell Type 3 (600 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Nominal DPM: 816 50% Crew: 660 75% Crew: 756 100% Crew: 852 100% Crew Vents: 870 Rammer: 948 Both: 966 Both and BiA: 990 Both and Max Crew %: 1032 Advantageous Damage Per Minute First-shot DPM: 1416 50% Crew: 1260 75% Crew: 1356 100% Crew: 1452 100% Crew Rammer: 1548 Vents: 1470 Both: 1566 Both and BiA: 1590 Both and Max Crew %: 1632 See here, here, or here for more information. Schaden pro Minute

| |}} 0.66 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.818 m With 75% Crew: 0.714 m With 100% Crew: 0.633 m With BiA: 0.619 m With BiA and Vents: 0.605 m Maximum possible: 0.58 m For more details, see Crew | |}} 0.77 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 0.954 m With 75% Crew: 0.833 m With 100% Crew: 0.738 m With BiA: 0.722 m With BiA and Vents: 0.706 m Maximum possible: 0.677 m For more details, see Crew Genauigkeit

| |}} 4.5 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 5.575 s With 75% Crew: 4.867 s With 100% Crew: 4.315 s With GLD: 3.923 s With BiA: 4.22 s With BiA and Vents: 4.128 s With both and GLD: 3.753 s Maximum possible: 3.597 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment | |}} 5.6 s  ▲ With 50% Crew: 6.937 s With 75% Crew: 6.057 s With 100% Crew: 5.369 s With GLD: 4.881 s With BiA: 5.251 s With BiA and Vents: 5.137 s With both and GLD: 4.67 s Maximum possible: 4.476 s For more details, see Crew or Equipment Einzielzeit

1212 deg/s Gun Wendegeschwindigkeit

8° Waffenwinkel

-0°/+60°-0°/+60° Richtwinkel

3216 rounds Munitionskapazität

Allgemein

2020 % Brandwahrscheinlichkeit

260 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 204.3 m With 75% Crew: 232.2 m With 100% Crew: 260 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m With Coated Optics: 286 m With Binocular Telescope: 325 m Maximum possible: 372.2 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment 260 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 204.3 m With 75% Crew: 232.2 m With 100% Crew: 260 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m With Coated Optics: 286 m With Binocular Telescope: 325 m Maximum possible: 372.2 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment Sichtweite

| |}} 360 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 290.6 m With 75% Crew: 332.8 m With 100% Crew: 375.5 m With 100% Signal Boost: 432 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 396 m Maximum possible: 540.4 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment | |}} 625 m  ▲ With 50% Crew: 504.5 m With 75% Crew: 577.8 m With 100% Crew: 651.8 m With 100% Signal Boost: 750 m When affected by 100% Relaying: 687.5 m Maximum possible: 938.3 m For more details, see Skills or Equipment Funkreichweite

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S-51

SU-14-2

212A

VIII

2720000

Der SU-14-2 ist ein sowjetischer Selbstfahrlafette der Stufe 8.

Die Artillerie-Selbstfahrlafette des Typs „Triplex - schwere Artillerie für besondere Zwecke“ wurde zwischen 1932 und 1937 entwickelt, zwei Prototypen wurden 1940 modernisiert. Keine Massenfertigung.

Often known as the "School Bus" due to its shape, it is a worthy successor platform for the 203mm B-4 cannon first available on the SU-14-1 and the S-51. Even though it is one tier higher, the SU-14-2 can still utilise the B-4 to deliver more alpha damage than any other SPG of its tier. Relative to its predecessors, it has an improved rate of fire (1.5 times as many shots per minute) and some armour to bounce hastily aimed scout shots. Unfortunately, all this armour comes at the expense of mobility, and the ammo capacity is still as limited as its predecessors (16 for top gun).

Der SU-14-2 führt zum 212A.

Module / Verfügbare Zubehörteile und Verbrauchsgegenstände

Module

R27_SU-14

Geschütze

Stufe	Geschütz	Durchschlag (mm)	Schaden (HP)	Feuerrate (Schuss/min)	Genauigkeit (m/100m)	Einzielzeit (s)		Gewicht (kg)	Kosten ()
VII	152 mm BR-2	38/48/216	600/800/440	2.22	0.66	4.5		5720	92000
IX	203 mm B-4	52/65/258	900/1200/600	1.36	0.77	5.6		5200	235000

Motoren

Stufe	Motor	Leistung (hp)	Brandwahrscheinlichkeit (%)		Gewicht (kg)	Kosten ()
IV	M-17T	500	20		610	13460
VII	M-17F	700	20		610	35000

Fahrwerk

Stufe	Ketten	Höchstgewicht (t)	Wendegeschwindigkeit (Grad/s)	Rmin		Gewicht (kg)	Kosten ()
VII	SU-14-2	64	14	0		15000	20000
VIII	SU-14-2 verbessert	66	16	0		15000	27310

Funkgeräte

Stufe	Funkgerät	Funkreichweite (m)		Gewicht (kg)	Kosten ()
V	10R	360		100	3660
IX	12RT	625		110	33600

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Verfügbare Verbrauchsgegenstände

                       

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

• Excellent damage and splash for its tier (with the 203mm)

• Low aiming time

Cons:

• Very high reloading time

• Extremely low mobility

• Very poor accuracy

• Slowest traverse available in-game (Tied with GW Tiger)!

• Garbage gun arc

Performance

If your crew is 100% and you have the 203mm gun, the game is really enjoyable. Unfortunately before then, it is awful.

Early Research

• Top gun and top radio carry over from the S-51 and SU-14-1 - mount immediately!
• Engines carry over from the SU-14-1. If coming from the S-51, you should research it for more mobility.
• Tracks go on last.

Suggested Equipment

  

Galerie

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  Su-14 front left view

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  Su-14 front right view

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  Su-14 back left view

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  Su-14 back right view

Historical Info

An old Soviet self-propelled artillery piece (SU-14) before its test firing. It was based on the heavy T-35 tank -- note the lack of an armored box around the gun/crew

The experimental SU-14 was built in 1934 (possibly 2 were built) as heavy self-propelled guns for mechanized units for the destruction of strengthened fortifications.

Specifications: weight- 48,5 t; crew- 7 men; armament- 203mm howitzer B-4 mod. 1931 (range of fire 18 km with 100 kg shell, rate of fire 1 shot/5.7 min) + 3 x 7,62mm MG;- ammunition 8 shells + 2268 MG shells; armor 10-20 mm; engine M-17 500 hp; speed- 27.3 km/h; range 100-120 km.

The SU-14 was based on the T-35 chassis with other elements from both the T-28 and T-35. The engine was located in the front and the howitzer was openly-mounted. The original SU-14 had the 203mm B-4. The SU-14 was equipped with two 200 kg cranes for use with the ammunition, two spades, and had to have its suspension disconnected during firing; it could fire only from the stationary position. Its maneuverability and speed were satisfactory. Also, operation of the howitzer was convenient. But, its size was large, armor was insufficient, and it had problems with over-driven transmissions.

The SU-14 was tested in 1935 and its engine and transmission were modified (improved SU-14-1 was built in 1936 - it had better and more reliable transmission, improved spades, more powerful engine M-17F 680 hp.). On both SPGs, the 203mm howitzer was replaced by the 152.4mm naval gun B-30 and Br-2 (which had better range and rate of fire) in 1936. It was planned to produce 5 copies with the 152.4mm gun Br-2 (SU-14-2), but that plan was rejected due to the arrest of the chief engineers of the project.

See left most (or top most) blueprint below.

In 1936, the new experimental self propelled gun SU-14-1 was built and tested. It was the improved version of the SU-14 with the transmission from a T-35 heavy tank (not from T-28 medium tank as in the case of SU-14), more powerful engine, modernized spades, and without the ineffective suspension needing to be disconnected during firing. An additional artillery tractor, “Comintern”, was used as ammunition carrier (50-60 shells) for the SU-14-1. See right most (or bottom most) blueprint above.

In 1936, the 203mm howitzer was also replaced by the 152.4mm gun Br-2 mod.1935 with better range and rate of fire. The SU-14-1 was equipped with a radio station and additional armor in 1940 for use during the Winter War against Finnish fortifications (Mannerheim line) from a short distance. That SP gun was renamed the SU-14-Br2 and was the predecessor of heavy SP guns of the WWII period. Now, the SU-14-2 is preserved at the Russian tank museum (Kubinka).

SU-14 Br2 Blueprint

SU-14 Br2 in Kubinka

Combat Usage

The Winter War

The SU-14 was used quite successful in the destruction of Finnish fortifications during the Winter War.

World War II

In April 1940, the SU-14 and SU-14-1 were going through tests in NIAP, and in July, were in P.F. Lebedev's tank group in the Keiv Region. In September 1940, both units were given to NIBT for storage. In the fall of 1941, when defending Moscow, both SU-14s and an experienced SU T-100-U in a unit called "Separate Heavy Division for Special Purposes" were used in the Kubinka Region to fire from protected positions at advancing German forces (likely, they were using any working weapon available).

Variants

• SU-14 -- Armed with 203mm howitzer B-4 mod. 1931 + 3 x 7,62mm MG; ammunition 8 shells + 2268 MG shells; armor 10-20 mm; engine M-17 500 hp; speed 27,3 km/h; range 100-120 km
• SU-14-1 -- Armed with 203mm howitzer B-4 mod. 1931 + 4 x 7,62mm MGs; ammunition 8 shells + 2196 MG shells; armor 6-20 mm; engine M-17F 700 (850?) hp; speed 30-35 km/h; range 120-150 km.
• SU-14-Br2 -- Armed with 152.4mm gun + 4 x 7,62mm MG; ammunition 16 shells + 2655 MG shells; armor 20-50 mm; speed 15 km/h; range 100 km.
• SU-14-2 -- SU-14-1 with the radio station.

AUTHOR'S NOTE

The variant descriptions and the pictures don't exactly match (they came from 2 different sources). It is relatively clear that only 3 vehicles were produced. 2 were likely the SU-14 with the 203mm and 1 was the SU-14-1 with the 203mm. Later, the 203mm gun was replaced with the 152.4mm gun. However, from the 3 pictures directly above, we get some discrepancies. One picture (1st in the row of 3 above) shows the front view of an SU-14 with both armor AND the short 203mm gun. This does not have a variant name. Likewise, the 3rd picture in the group of 3 shows the original plating between the tracks (you can see where it extends to cover the drive wheels and has rectangular holes instead of circular ones). From the the blueprints, this is an SU-14 and not the SU-14-1 modified to an SU-14-Br2. I'm assuming that the armor was tacked on to one (or more likely both) of the original SU-14 prototypes, but they left the 203mm howitzer in. Possibly, this was done so they could participate in the Winter War.

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Historische Galerie

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  SU-14 Br2 but with a 203mm

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  SU-14 Br2 with the 152.4mm

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  SU-14 Br2 rear/side shot

Sources and External Links

References

• Russian Tanks and Armored Vehicles 1917-1945

External Links

• Source of most of the text
• Source of most of the pictures
• More History in Russian

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