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T25_2 (Stock)

Totals
1364000 Price
800 Hit Points
43.39 / 43.81 kgWeight
Crew
  1. Commander
Armor
76.2/50.8/38.1Hull Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
76/25/25Turret Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
Maneuver
560 h.p.Engine Power
56 km/hSpeed Limit
30 deg/secTraverse Speed
Firepower
240 Standard Shell Damage
160 mmStandard Shell Penetration
7.7 Time for Complete Loading
18 deg/secTurret Traverse Speed
Communication
380 mView Range
395 mSignal Range
VII
T25/2
1364000
A tank destroyer based on the T23. Development started in 1943. Since the T23 was not adopted for service, work on the tank destroyer was discontinued. Existed only in blueprints.

When fully upgraded, the T25/2 has similar speed and maneuverability to the T25 AT. However, unlike the T25 AT, the T25/2's turret cannot mount the powerful 105 mm AT Gun T5E1. The combination of only being able to use the 90 mm AT Gun T15E2 gun along with poor armor limits the T25/2 to the second line on the battlefield. The T25/2 does get a fully enclosed turret upgrade, which increases its ability to withstand HE and artillery rounds. Using your speed to get into positions and provide fire support to your allies quickly while avoiding enemy fire is key to playing this tank destroyer.

T25/2

Stock

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VI T25/2T3 4800 76/25/25 18 380
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VII 90 mm AT Gun M3 2050 160/243/45 240/240/320 7.79 0.36 1.7
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine VII Ford GAN 569 560 20
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VII T25/2T1 10200 43.805 30
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio VI SCR 508 0 395

T25/2E1

Attack

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VII T25/2T7 5500 76/25/25 18 380
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VIII 90 mm AT Gun T15E2 2050 170/258/45 240/240/320 7.79 0.36 1.7
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine VIII Continental AV-1790-1 569 704 20
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VIII T25/2T4 10200 45.8 30
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio IX SCR 506 0 615

T25/2E1 (M3)

Speed

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VI T25/2T3 4800 76/25/25 18 380
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VII 90 mm AT Gun M3 2050 160/243/45 240/240/320 7.79 0.36 1.7
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine VIII Continental AV-1790-1 569 704 20
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VIII T25/2T4 10200 45.8 30
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio IX SCR 506 0 615

Compatible Equipment

Medium Spall Liner
Camouflage Net
Fill Tanks with CO2
Coated Optics
Enhanced Gun Laying Drive
Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer
Binocular Telescope
Toolbox
"Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher
Case of Cola
100-octane Gasoline
105-octane Gasoline
Manual Fire Extinguisher
Large First Aid Kit
Large Repair Kit
Small First Aid Kit
Small Repair Kit

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Turret mantlet is surprisingly bouncy and the addition of a roof cover on 2nd turret reduces artillery and HE damage
  • Good speed and reasonable mobility once upgraded
  • Excellent gun depression
  • Good for hull down, thanks to its small turret and relatively low hull.
  • Great aim time on both guns


Cons:


  • Armour is almost useless when in battles of higher tier
  • Worst top gun of its tier, barely an upgrade over it's predecessor
  • Poor turret traverse
  • Turret is easily damaged
  • Can be an extremely painful stock grind


Performance

It is important not to think of this tank as a progression from the Hellcat, but rather as a larger Jackson as the TD plays much more like the slower Jackson than the speedy Hellcat . Its highest gun is adequate for its own tier, though it is rare to be at the top of the list. It is best to use this as a second line tank, sniping at already engaged tanks or hitting them from out of their range before relocating. The depression of its guns is excellent, allowing you to make shots that most opponents wouldn't expect, especially if you are on higher or lower ground, and can save you from some difficult encounters. It is imperative to aim for the weak spots on opponents, and avoid fighting alone or spearheading an attack. The T15E2 gun has good penetration for its tier. If possible, try to remain undetected whilst killing off low-health targets. If detected, use it's speed to relocate before taking too much damage. Coming from the M18 Hellcat the T25/2 may seem like a let-down, especially when it is stock but in the right hands it can be an excellent tank.


Early Research

  • The SCR 506 radio carries over from the T82, and should be equipped immediately.
  • Next, go for the engine, as it greatly increases your maneuverability.
  • The stock suspension cannot hold anything else now, so go for the next suspension upgrade.
  • Then, the upgraded turret to hold the upgrade 90mm.
  • Last, the upgrade 90mm, for an increase of 10 millimeters of penetration.


Historical Info

With encounters with German Tiger tanks in Tunisia, tanks crews were wanting a tank with bigger guns than 75 mm and 76 mm.

In March 1943 a new turret was fitted with a 90 mm AA gun and put onto a T23 model.

The Army Service Forces placed an order for 50 of these tanks.1 10 of these were to be T26s. The first T25s were completed until early 1944.

A request for 8,000 T25s and T26s with 75 mm and 76 mm guns was rejected.

Development

The T25 and T26 lines of tanks came into being in the midst of a heated internal debate within the U.S. Army in the mid-1943 to early 1944 over the need for tanks with greater firepower and armor. A 90 mm gun mounted in a massive new turret was installed in both series. The T26 series were given additional frontal hull armor, with the glacis plate increased to 4 in (10 cm). This increased the weight of the T26 series to over 40 short tons (36 t) and decreased their mobility and durability as the engine and powertrain were not improved to compensate for the weight gain.


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