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Indien_Panzer (Stock)

AnnoG88_Indien_Panzer.png
Totals
2420000 Price
1300 Hit Points
39.82 / 40 kgWeight
Crew
  1. Commander
Armor
90/90/45Hull Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
90/90/45Turret Armor(front/sides/rear, mm)
Maneuver
500 h.p.Engine Power
50 km/hSpeed Limit
34 deg/secTraverse Speed
Firepower
220 Standard Shell Damage
132 mmStandard Shell Penetration
6.4 Time for Complete Loading
36 deg/secTurret Traverse Speed
Communication
380 mView Range
310 mSignal Range
VIII
Indien-Panzer
2420000
The project was developed as a medium tank for the Indian Army. The work on the project was carried out by Porsche, Daimler-Benz, and Zahnradfabrik AG of Friedrichshafen. However, the vehicle was deemed to be too complicated for production in India, and the project was canceled.

The project was developed as a medium tank for the Indian Army. The work on the project was carried out by Porsche, Daimler-Benz, and Zahnradfabrik AG of Friedrichshafen. However, the vehicle was deemed to be too complicated for production in India, and the project was canceled.

Freshly purchased and stock, the Indien-Panzer mounts the extremely inadequate 88mm L/56 gun, so a fast upgrade is a must. The Indien-Panzer is not as fast as the Panther II but has superior track and turret traverse speed and, like the Panther, excels at the sniping role, taking down enemies from afar with superb accuracy. The Indien-Panzer's compact size and very small turret combined with superb gun elevation angles give it many advantages when hull-down. Furthermore, its thin yet extremely sloped frontal armor can be surprisingly bouncy. However, although effectively better than the Panther II's its 90mm-thick armor is nothing to boast about. Major setbacks may include the long aiming time, sluggish acceleration, and the paper-thin gun mantlet.

Indien-Panzer

Stock

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VIII Indien-Panzer 9200 90/90/45 36 380
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VII 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 2050 132/171/44 220/220/270 9.38 0.38 2.3
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine VIII MTU MB 837 1500 500 15
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VII B-PS 102 10000 40 34
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio III FuG 5 0 310

Indien-Panzer A

Speed

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VIII Indien-Panzer 9200 90/90/45 36 380
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VIII 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 2562 203/237/44 240/240/295 7.79 0.34 2.9
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine IX MTU MB 837 A 1500 630 12
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VIII Indien-Panzer 10000 43 38
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio VI FuG 7 0 415

Indien-Panzer B

Attack

Level Turret Weight (t) Turret Armor (front/sides/rear, mm) Turret Traverse Speed (deg/s) View Range (m)
turret VIII Indien-Panzer 9200 90/90/45 36 380
Level Gun Weight (t) Average Penetration (mm) Rate of Fire Dispersion at 100 m Aiming Time
gun VIII 9 cm KwK 54 1650 212/259/45 240/240/320 8.33 0.34 2.7
Level Engine Weight (t) Engine Power (h.p.) Chance of Fire on Impact
engine IX MTU MB 837 A 1500 630 12
Level Suspension Weight (t) Load Limit Traverse Speed (deg/s)
chassis VIII Indien-Panzer 10000 43 38
Level Radio Weight (t) Signal Range (m)
radio IX AN/GRC-4 0 720

Compatible Equipment

Vertical Stabilizer Mk 1
Medium Spall Liner
Camouflage Net
Fill Tanks with CO2
Coated Optics
Enhanced Gun Laying Drive
Enhanced Leaf Springs 2 Class
Improved Ventilation Class 2
Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer
Binocular Telescope
Toolbox
"Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher
Chocolate
Manual Fire Extinguisher
Large First Aid Kit
Large Repair Kit
Small First Aid Kit
Small Repair Kit

Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Excellent gun depression
  • Narrow turret is hard to hit, especially if hull-down and rocking side-to-side
  • Great AP shell penetration
  • Above-average maneuverability
  • Good rate of fire and DPM


Cons:


  • Slow aimtime and bad dispersion, even after aimtime improvements in 9.2
  • Sub-par acceleration
  • Weak gun mantlet and turret armor, though its roundness can lead to bounces
  • Low hit points pool - even less than the T69, and on par with the T-44 and Chinese mediums
  • Ammo rack is damaged easily


Performance

The Indien-Panzer is very similar, yet quite different from the alternate tier 8 German medium tank, the Panther II. Unlike the Indien-Panzer, the Panther II offers an alternative rapid-firing 7,5 cm gun, although this weapon is quite weak and has much lower DPM. The Indien-Panzer however, in return offers a 9 cm gun, which can be researched after researching the 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 gun shared by both vehicles (which has identical stats on both the Panther and Indien). This slightly-improved 9 cm gun increases the Indien-Panzer's DPM by roughly 200 damage, nothing to get excited about. The Indien-Panzer has a weaker engine and lower top speed than the Panther II, which makes it far from stellar at acceleration. However, the Indien has a higher turret and track traverse speed, which makes it handle much better than the Panther.

In comparison to the other tier 8 medium tanks, the Indien-Panzer boasts a decent penetration AP round at 212 pen. Its engine has a very low chance of catching on fire, which is further safeguarded by the rear-mounted transmission, a common problem in German vehicles. The alpha damage isn't very high, but is relatively good in comparison to competing mediums. Probably the most distinguishing advantage of the Indien-Panzer is its excellent gun depression coupled with a very small and difficult-to-hit turret. Unfortunately, the turret won't hold up if it does get hit. Finding and getting used to the Indien's play style will prepare its driver for the next tanks in the line, the Leopards, which are very similar in being very flexible, maneuverable, potent snipers, and capable jack-of-all-trades.


Early Research

Your starting gun is inadequate, and the upgrade should be researched early. Unfortunately you can't use the second gun or any equipment before upgrading the tracks. For another 4300 Xp however you can get the 9 cm gun already which is lighter and thus will allow you to use both the gun and equipment without having to get the tracks. Top engine and top radio are unlocked when you research Leopard PT A, but consider researching least updated engine beforehand to improve your mobility.


Historical Info

Indien Panzer drawings
In the immediate post war climate in West Germany, German weapons manufacturers were not involved in development and production of armored vehicles. However, that did not stop manufacturers like Porsche to try to sell its designs to foreign nation. In the period from 1954-55 joint venture formed from Porsche (overall design), Daimler-Benz (MB837A 8-cyl diesel engine), Zahnradfabrik AG of Friedrichshafen (tracks & parts of transmission), Ruhrstahl (turret & gun) and TATA (manufacturing in India plus sights & optics) offered their design to the Indian government. Intended to meet an Indian need for a 36-39 ton tank, the German submission would probably have been around 40 tons. Engine with the power of 670 HP would gave power to weight of around 16,7 hp/t and a top speed of around 50 km/h. Main armament consisted of 90 mm gun with The rifled barrel, while max armor thickness was 90 mm on the hull front and 130 mm on the turret front.

The Indian panzer competed with the British design, which the Indians eventually choose. Interestingly the Vickers tank was built entirely from welded rolled steel plates. According to some sources this feature was seen as an advantage by the Indian army, who wanted the tank to be license built in the country. Cast armor requires special foundry facilities, which were not available in India at the time the Vickers tank was developed. The Porsche design, on the contrary, had cast turret and much of the hull, so to build it in India might have been considered not impossible but surely quite difficult and expensive.

The project was rejected in the drawing phase, and no prototypes were ever built. The Indians eventually went for the Vickers MBT whose prototype was completed in 1963 and the tank entered service in 1965. The first 90 vehicles were built by Vickers in the UK, while production continued at the Heavy Vehicles Factory in Avadi. A total of 2,200 units under the name Vijayanta were built until 1983 when the production was stopped.


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