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SU-14-2

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2.720.000  Credits Kosten
410410 HP Struktur
63.99/6463.48/66 t Höchstgewicht
Besatzung
  1. Kommandant (Funker)
  2. Richtschütze
  3. Richtschütze
  4. Fahrer
  5. Ladeschütze
  6. Ladeschütze
Mobilität
500700 hp Motorleistung
30/8 km/h Höchstgeschwindigkeit
1416 deg/s Wendegeschwindigkeit
7.8111.03 hp/t Leistungsgewicht
YesYes Pivot
Panzerung
50/30/20 mm Wannenpanzerung
Bewaffnung







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700/700/1050/1050/ HP Schaden
38/38/52/52/ mm Durchschlag



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2.22 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 27 s
50% Crew: 33.45 s
75% Crew: 29.2 s
100% Crew: 25.89 s
Rammer: 23.3 s
Vents: 25.32 s
Both: 22.79 s
Both and BiA: 22.29 s
Both and Max Crew %: 21.37 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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1.36 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 44 s
50% Crew: 54.51 s
75% Crew: 47.59 s
100% Crew: 42.19 s
Rammer: 37.97 s
Vents: 41.26 s
Both: 37.13 s
Both and BiA: 36.33 s
Both and Max Crew %: 34.82 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Feuerrate






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1554

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (700 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1554
50% Crew: 1253
75% Crew: 1435
100% Crew: 1624
100% Crew
Vents: 1659
Rammer: 1806
Both: 1848
Both and BiA: 1883
Both and Max Crew %: 1967

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2254
50% Crew: 1953
75% Crew: 2135
100% Crew: 2324
100% Crew
Rammer: 2506
Vents: 2359
Both: 2548
Both and BiA: 2583
Both and Max Crew %: 2667

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (700 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1554
50% Crew: 1253
75% Crew: 1435
100% Crew: 1624
100% Crew
Vents: 1659
Rammer: 1806
Both: 1848
Both and BiA: 1883
Both and Max Crew %: 1967

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2254
50% Crew: 1953
75% Crew: 2135
100% Crew: 2324
100% Crew
Rammer: 2506
Vents: 2359
Both: 2548
Both and BiA: 2583
Both and Max Crew %: 2667

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1428

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (1050 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1428
50% Crew: 1155
75% Crew: 1323
100% Crew: 1491
100% Crew
Vents: 1522.5
Rammer: 1659
Both: 1690.5
Both and BiA: 1732.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1806

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2478
50% Crew: 2205
75% Crew: 2373
100% Crew: 2541
100% Crew
Rammer: 2709
Vents: 2572.5
Both: 2740.5
Both and BiA: 2782.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2856

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (1050 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1428
50% Crew: 1155
75% Crew: 1323
100% Crew: 1491
100% Crew
Vents: 1522.5
Rammer: 1659
Both: 1690.5
Both and BiA: 1732.5
Both and Max Crew %: 1806

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2478
50% Crew: 2205
75% Crew: 2373
100% Crew: 2541
100% Crew
Rammer: 2709
Vents: 2572.5
Both: 2740.5
Both and BiA: 2782.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2856

See here, here, or here for more information.
Schaden pro Minute


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0.66 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.818 m
With 75% Crew: 0.714 m
With 100% Crew: 0.633 m
With BiA: 0.619 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.605 m
Maximum possible: 0.58 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.77 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.954 m
With 75% Crew: 0.833 m
With 100% Crew: 0.738 m
With BiA: 0.722 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.706 m
Maximum possible: 0.677 m

For more details, see Crew
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4.5 s 

With 50% Crew: 5.575 s
With 75% Crew: 4.867 s
With 100% Crew: 4.315 s
With GLD: 3.923 s
With BiA: 4.22 s
With BiA and Vents: 4.128 s
With both and GLD: 3.753 s
Maximum possible: 3.597 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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5.6 s 

With 50% Crew: 6.937 s
With 75% Crew: 6.057 s
With 100% Crew: 5.369 s
With GLD: 4.881 s
With BiA: 5.251 s
With BiA and Vents: 5.137 s
With both and GLD: 4.67 s
Maximum possible: 4.476 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Einzielzeit
1212 deg/s Gun Wendegeschwindigkeit
8° Waffenwinkel
-0°/+60°-0°/+60° Richtwinkel
3216 rounds Munitionskapazität
Allgemein
2020 % Brandwahrscheinlichkeit






260 m 

With 50% Crew: 204.3 m
With 75% Crew: 232.2 m
With 100% Crew: 260 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m
With Coated Optics: 286 m
With Binocular Telescope: 325 m
Maximum possible: 372.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






260 m 

With 50% Crew: 204.3 m
With 75% Crew: 232.2 m
With 100% Crew: 260 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 273.2 m
With Coated Optics: 286 m
With Binocular Telescope: 325 m
Maximum possible: 372.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Sichtweite


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360 m 

With 50% Crew: 290.6 m
With 75% Crew: 332.8 m
With 100% Crew: 375.5 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 432 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 396 m
Maximum possible: 540.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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625 m 

With 50% Crew: 504.5 m
With 75% Crew: 577.8 m
With 100% Crew: 651.8 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 750 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 687.5 m
Maximum possible: 938.3 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Funkreichweite
Werte sind Stock - klick für Top


VIII

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Der SU-14-2 ist ein sowjetischer Selbstfahrlafette der Stufe 8.

Die Artillerie-Selbstfahrlafette des Typs „Triplex - schwere Artillerie für besondere Zwecke“ wurde zwischen 1932 und 1937 entwickelt, zwei Prototypen wurden 1940 modernisiert. Keine Massenfertigung.

Often known as the "School Bus" due to its shape, it is a worthy successor platform for the 203mm B-4 cannon first available on the SU-14-1 and the S-51. Even though it is one tier higher, the SU-14-2 can still utilise the B-4 to deliver more alpha damage than any other SPG of its tier. Relative to its predecessors, it has an improved rate of fire (1.5 times as many shots per minute) and some armour to bounce hastily aimed scout shots. Unfortunately, all this armour comes at the expense of mobility, and the ammo capacity is still as limited as its predecessors (16 for top gun).

Der SU-14-2 führt zum 212A.

Module / Verfügbare Zubehörteile und Verbrauchsgegenstände

Modules

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Geschütze

Stufe Geschütz Durchschlag
(mm)
Schaden
(HP)
Feuerrate
(Schuss/min)
Genauigkeit
(m/100m)
Einzielzeit
(s)
Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

VII 152 mm BR-2 38/38 700/700 2.22 0.66 4.5 5720 92000
IX 203 mm B-4 52/52 1050/1050 1.36 0.77 5.6 5200 235000

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Motoren

Stufe Motor Leistung
(hp)
Brandwahrscheinlichkeit
(%)
Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

IV M-17T 500 20 610 13460
VII M-17F 700 20 610 35000

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Suspensions

Stufe Ketten Höchstgewicht
(t)
Wendegeschwindigkeit
(Grad/s)
Rmin Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

VII SU-14-2 64 14 0 15000 20000
VIII SU-14-2 verbessert 66 16 0 15000 27310

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Radios

Stufe Funkgerät Funkreichweite
(m)
Gewicht
(kg)
Kosten
(Credits)

V 10R 360 100 3660
IX 12RT 625 110 33600


Verfügbare Zubehörteile

Schwere Splitterschutzbeschichtung Tarnnetz Treibstofftank-Kohlenstoffdioxid-Füllung Entspiegelte Optik Experimentelle Optik Verschleißfester Richtantrieb Lüftungssystem Innovatives Ladesystem Erweiterte Ersatzteilkiste Verbesserter Waffenrichtantrieb „Zyklon“-Luftfilter Verbesserte Lüftung Klasse 3 Ansetzer für Artilleriegeschütze großen Kalibers Scherenfernrohr Werkzeugkiste „Nasses“ Munitionslager Klasse 2 

Verfügbare Verbrauchsgegenstände

Automatisches Feuerlöschsystem Natürliche Deckung Kalibrierte Optik Visierfeinabgleich Erfahrene Brandbekämpfer Handfeuerlöscher Lüftungsreinigung Großer Erste-Hilfe-Kasten Große Ersatzteilkiste Die Pflicht zuerst Leih-und-Pachtgesetz-Öl Granatensortierer Ordentliches Munitionslager Aufs Ziel fokussiert Zusatzrationen Entfernter Drehzahlbegrenzer Volle Konzentration Kleiner Erste-Hilfe-Kasten Kleine Ersatzteilkiste Kunstvolles Schalten Schnappschuss Penible Wartung Kampflinie 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Excellent damage and splash for its tier (with the 203mm)
  • Low aiming time


Cons:


  • Very high reloading time
  • Extremely low mobility
  • Very poor accuracy
  • Slowest traverse available in-game (Tied with GW Tiger)!
  • Garbage gun arc



Performance

If your crew is 100% and you have the 203mm gun, the game is really enjoyable. Unfortunately before then, it is awful.


Early Research

  • Top gun and top radio carry over from the S-51 and SU-14-1 - mount immediately!
  • Engines carry over from the SU-14-1. If coming from the S-51, you should research it for more mobility.
  • Tracks go on last.


Suggested Equipment


Improved Ventilation Class 3Large-caliber Tank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Galerie

Historical Info

An old Soviet self-propelled artillery piece (SU-14) before its test firing. It was based on the heavy T-35 tank -- note the lack of an armored box around the gun/crew

The experimental SU-14 was built in 1934 (possibly 2 were built) as heavy self-propelled guns for mechanized units for the destruction of strengthened fortifications.

Specifications: weight- 48,5 t; crew- 7 men; armament- 203mm howitzer B-4 mod. 1931 (range of fire 18 km with 100 kg shell, rate of fire 1 shot/5.7 min) + 3 x 7,62mm MG;- ammunition 8 shells + 2268 MG shells; armor 10-20 mm; engine M-17 500 hp; speed- 27.3 km/h; range 100-120 km.

The SU-14 was based on the T-35 chassis with other elements from both the T-28 and T-35. The engine was located in the front and the howitzer was openly-mounted. The original SU-14 had the 203mm B-4. The SU-14 was equipped with two 200 kg cranes for use with the ammunition, two spades, and had to have its suspension disconnected during firing; it could fire only from the stationary position. Its maneuverability and speed were satisfactory. Also, operation of the howitzer was convenient. But, its size was large, armor was insufficient, and it had problems with over-driven transmissions.

The SU-14 was tested in 1935 and its engine and transmission were modified (improved SU-14-1 was built in 1936 - it had better and more reliable transmission, improved spades, more powerful engine M-17F 680 hp.). On both SPGs, the 203mm howitzer was replaced by the 152.4mm naval gun B-30 and Br-2 (which had better range and rate of fire) in 1936. It was planned to produce 5 copies with the 152.4mm gun Br-2 (SU-14-2), but that plan was rejected due to the arrest of the chief engineers of the project.

See left most (or top most) blueprint below.

Original SU-14 design with the 203mm Howitzer SU-14-1 with the longer ranged 152mm Howitzer

In 1936, the new experimental self propelled gun SU-14-1 was built and tested. It was the improved version of the SU-14 with the transmission from a T-35 heavy tank (not from T-28 medium tank as in the case of SU-14), more powerful engine, modernized spades, and without the ineffective suspension needing to be disconnected during firing. An additional artillery tractor, “Comintern”, was used as ammunition carrier (50-60 shells) for the SU-14-1. See right most (or bottom most) blueprint above.

SU-14 original SU-14-1 with a 203mm

In 1936, the 203mm howitzer was also replaced by the 152.4mm gun Br-2 mod.1935 with better range and rate of fire. The SU-14-1 was equipped with a radio station and additional armor in 1940 for use during the Winter War against Finnish fortifications (Mannerheim line) from a short distance. That SP gun was renamed the SU-14-Br2 and was the predecessor of heavy SP guns of the WWII period. Now, the SU-14-2 is preserved at the Russian tank museum (Kubinka).

SU-14 Br2 Blueprint
SU-14 Br2 in Kubinka

Combat Usage

The Winter War

The SU-14 was used quite successful in the destruction of Finnish fortifications during the Winter War.

World War II

In April 1940, the SU-14 and SU-14-1 were going through tests in NIAP, and in July, were in P.F. Lebedev's tank group in the Keiv Region. In September 1940, both units were given to NIBT for storage. In the fall of 1941, when defending Moscow, both SU-14s and an experienced SU T-100-U in a unit called "Separate Heavy Division for Special Purposes" were used in the Kubinka Region to fire from protected positions at advancing German forces (likely, they were using any working weapon available).

Variants

  • SU-14 -- Armed with 203mm howitzer B-4 mod. 1931 + 3 x 7,62mm MG; ammunition 8 shells + 2268 MG shells; armor 10-20 mm; engine M-17 500 hp; speed 27,3 km/h; range 100-120 km
  • SU-14-1 -- Armed with 203mm howitzer B-4 mod. 1931 + 4 x 7,62mm MGs; ammunition 8 shells + 2196 MG shells; armor 6-20 mm; engine M-17F 700 (850?) hp; speed 30-35 km/h; range 120-150 km.
  • SU-14-Br2 -- Armed with 152.4mm gun + 4 x 7,62mm MG; ammunition 16 shells + 2655 MG shells; armor 20-50 mm; speed 15 km/h; range 100 km.
  • SU-14-2 -- SU-14-1 with the radio station.

AUTHOR'S NOTE

The variant descriptions and the pictures don't exactly match (they came from 2 different sources). It is relatively clear that only 3 vehicles were produced. 2 were likely the SU-14 with the 203mm and 1 was the SU-14-1 with the 203mm. Later, the 203mm gun was replaced with the 152.4mm gun. However, from the 3 pictures directly above, we get some discrepancies. One picture (1st in the row of 3 above) shows the front view of an SU-14 with both armor AND the short 203mm gun. This does not have a variant name. Likewise, the 3rd picture in the group of 3 shows the original plating between the tracks (you can see where it extends to cover the drive wheels and has rectangular holes instead of circular ones). From the the blueprints, this is an SU-14 and not the SU-14-1 modified to an SU-14-Br2. I'm assuming that the armor was tacked on to one (or more likely both) of the original SU-14 prototypes, but they left the 203mm howitzer in. Possibly, this was done so they could participate in the Winter War.


Historische Galerie

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