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P.43 bis

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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905,000  Credits Cost
790166 HP Hit Points
31.6/3216.49/36 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
Mobility
430520 hp Engine Power
50/20 km/h Speed Limit
3842 deg/s Traverse
13.6131.53 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
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80/50/5080/50/50 mm Turret Armor
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435/4400/305
Shell Cost
110/110/175240/240/320 HP Damage
118/146/38140/180/45 mm Penetration



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15 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4 s
50% Crew: 4.96 s
75% Crew: 4.33 s
100% Crew: 3.84 s
Rammer: 3.46 s
Vents: 3.76 s
Both: 3.38 s
Both and BiA: 3.31 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.17 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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8 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.5 s
50% Crew: 9.29 s
75% Crew: 8.11 s
100% Crew: 7.19 s
Rammer: 6.47 s
Vents: 7.03 s
Both: 6.33 s
Both and BiA: 6.19 s
Both and Max Crew %: 5.93 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1650

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1650
50% Crew: 1332.1
75% Crew: 1525.7
100% Crew: 1720.4
100% Crew
Vents: 1758.9
Rammer: 1911.8
Both: 1954.7
Both and BiA: 1997.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2084.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1760
50% Crew: 1442.1
75% Crew: 1635.7
100% Crew: 1830.4
100% Crew
Rammer: 2021.8
Vents: 1868.9
Both: 2064.7
Both and BiA: 2107.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2194.5

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1650
50% Crew: 1332.1
75% Crew: 1525.7
100% Crew: 1720.4
100% Crew
Vents: 1758.9
Rammer: 1911.8
Both: 1954.7
Both and BiA: 1997.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2084.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1760
50% Crew: 1442.1
75% Crew: 1635.7
100% Crew: 1830.4
100% Crew
Rammer: 2021.8
Vents: 1868.9
Both: 2064.7
Both and BiA: 2107.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2194.5

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2625
50% Crew: 2119.25
75% Crew: 2427.25
100% Crew: 2737
100% Crew
Vents: 2798.25
Rammer: 3041.5
Both: 3109.75
Both and BiA: 3178
Both and Max Crew %: 3316.25

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2800
50% Crew: 2294.25
75% Crew: 2602.25
100% Crew: 2912
100% Crew
Rammer: 3216.5
Vents: 2973.25
Both: 3284.75
Both and BiA: 3353
Both and Max Crew %: 3491.25

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1920

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1920
50% Crew: 1550.4
75% Crew: 1776
100% Crew: 2001.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2047.2
Rammer: 2224.8
Both: 2275.2
Both and BiA: 2325.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2424

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2160
50% Crew: 1790.4
75% Crew: 2016
100% Crew: 2241.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 2464.8
Vents: 2287.2
Both: 2515.2
Both and BiA: 2565.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2664

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1920
50% Crew: 1550.4
75% Crew: 1776
100% Crew: 2001.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2047.2
Rammer: 2224.8
Both: 2275.2
Both and BiA: 2325.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2424

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2160
50% Crew: 1790.4
75% Crew: 2016
100% Crew: 2241.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 2464.8
Vents: 2287.2
Both: 2515.2
Both and BiA: 2565.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2664

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2560
50% Crew: 2067.2
75% Crew: 2368
100% Crew: 2668.8
100% Crew
Vents: 2729.6
Rammer: 2966.4
Both: 3033.6
Both and BiA: 3100.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3232

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2880
50% Crew: 2387.2
75% Crew: 2688
100% Crew: 2988.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 3286.4
Vents: 3049.6
Both: 3353.6
Both and BiA: 3420.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3552

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.4 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.496 m
With 75% Crew: 0.433 m
With 100% Crew: 0.384 m
With BiA: 0.375 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.367 m
Maximum possible: 0.352 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.4 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.496 m
With 75% Crew: 0.433 m
With 100% Crew: 0.384 m
With BiA: 0.375 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.367 m
Maximum possible: 0.352 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.3 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.849 s
With 75% Crew: 2.488 s
With 100% Crew: 2.205 s
With GLD: 2.005 s
With BiA: 2.157 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.11 s
With both and GLD: 1.918 s
Maximum possible: 1.839 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.4 s 

With 50% Crew: 2.973 s
With 75% Crew: 2.596 s
With 100% Crew: 2.301 s
With GLD: 2.092 s
With BiA: 2.25 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.202 s
With both and GLD: 2.001 s
Maximum possible: 1.918 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
4040 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-10°/+20°-7°/+20° Elevation Arc
7548 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2015 % Chance of Fire






350 m 

With 50% Crew: 275 m
With 75% Crew: 312.5 m
With 100% Crew: 350 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 367.7 m
With Coated Optics: 385 m
With Binocular Telescope: 437.5 m
Maximum possible: 501.1 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






360 m 

With 50% Crew: 282.8 m
With 75% Crew: 321.5 m
With 100% Crew: 360 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 378.2 m
With Coated Optics: 396 m
With Binocular Telescope: 450 m
Maximum possible: 515.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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415 m 

With 50% Crew: 326.1 m
With 75% Crew: 370.6 m
With 100% Crew: 415 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 498 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 456.5 m
Maximum possible: 597.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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525 m 

With 50% Crew: 412.5 m
With 75% Crew: 468.8 m
With 100% Crew: 525 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 630 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 577.5 m
Maximum possible: 755.4 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


VI

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905000

The P.43 bis is an Italian tier 6 medium tank.

The P.43 bis is one of the versions of the Italian medium tank developed in the mid-1940s. A 90-mm gun was planned to be mounted on the new vehicle. The tank was intended to demonstrate effective performance against existing vehicles.

The P.43 bis leads to the P.43 ter, and the Carro d'assalto P.88.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V Cannone da 75/50 Skoda 118/146/38 110/110/175 15.79 0.38 2.2 800 36000
VI Cannone da 90/42 140/180/45 240/240/320 8 0.4 2.4 1200 61000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V SPA 242 430 20 1300 21800
VI SPA 343 460 15 1700 25400
VI V-2-34 modificato 520 15 900 29500

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V P.43 bis 32 38 B/2 9000 9400
VI P.43 bis v.s. 36 42 B/2 9000 15600

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI R.F. 2 C.A. 415 35 8200
VIII R.F. 3 M. 2 525 136 23400

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Improved Ventilation Class 2 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Spaghetti with Meat Sauce Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Decent gun. High alpha damage and RoF on par with even tier VIII meds and highest alpha among Tier VI meds.
  • Good agility, high traverse speed on both the turret and the hull
  • Above average gun-depression, Identical to the T-34-85M.
  • Second best concealment rating of all tier 6 mediums, only behind the A-43.


Cons:


  • Terrible ground resistance, feels especially sluggish on 'soft' surfaces, Sub-par Power/weight ratio.
  • Very slow for a medium tank
  • Subpar gun handling, somewhat low accuracy and longer aim time than most peers
  • Horribly low shell velocity even with APCR rounds, ineffective at long range & fast moving targets.
  • The armor, while of decent thickness, is not sloped enough to resist most guns it will meet


Performance

A very promising new addition to the garage, one might think upon purchasing the P.43 bis. It boasts a big 90mm gun, hitting as hard as most mediums sitting two-tiers higher yet reloads considerably faster than a few. But with careful examination or a short trial, one could also unveil its hidden undoing as a medium tank: The big gun's projectile travels at a unsatisfying speed, and the bad terrain resistance negates much of its valuable engine power. The latter trait would remind many of the infamous VK 30.01 (P), but sadly, even the VK would get a bit higher power to weight ratio once past the stock engine. This makes a very unique machine, yet hard to master in battles. The seemingly lackluster combination of poor sniping capability, insufficient protection and mediocre if not outright bad mobility suits neither the brawler, nor the sniper-supporter character perfectly (and its gun depression, while at 7°, is also not as effective as the Brits or Americans at hull-down). Plan in advance, so the lacking mobility won't hinder one behind; play smart, so the gun may be put to use without suffering too much retaliation. Always try to appear in the right place at the right time; the sheer amount of damage output will do the rest and bring victory closer.


Early Research

  • Only the radio gets carried over, but it weighs 100kg more. Only mount if you don't plan on mounting those heavy equipments.
  • Grind the tracks for weight capacity, or mount Improved Hardening instead.
  • Grind the turret for better gun handling, then the 90mm gun.
  • Finally the engines. Note that the 2nd engine weighs more but adds little power, one may skip buying it for saving credits.


Suggested Equipment


Tank Gun Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Improved VentilationCoated Optics 


External Reviews and Opinions

Gallery

Historical Info

After finishing the initial design of the P.43 tank, Italy's armor designers kept working on it. The P.43 would be obsolete eventually, and it would pay to have evolutions and improvements on the design ready to go. In particular, the 75mm gun--while good--would struggle against heavier tanks like the Churchill or the KV-1. As the Italians had worked extensively with the Soviet military before the war started, they drew strong design inspiration from the highly successful T-34 design. They also had access by this point to the design documentation for the German Panzer V Panther, which while very complex for Italy's still-struggling industry, could provide some design suggestions of its own.

The subsequent design evolution of the P.43 after the initial model has been referred to as the P.43 bis, an adjective meaning "supplemental" or "additional", because while still part of the P.43 program, the changes to the design were dramatic enough that it could well be counted as a new tank altogether. The armor, while not greatly increased over the P.43, was now angled heavily as on the T-34, which increased its protection into the realm of the Tiger heavy tank. The tank would still use the same new 430 horsepower engine planned for the P.43, and the same--now very long in the tooth--Vickers Mk. E-inspired suspension system as all Italian tanks to date.

In addition, Italy planned to take the route of every other major nation and adapt an anti-aircraft gun for their new tank; in this case, the excellent Cannone de 90/53, which had already been pressed into artillery service like the famous German FlaK 88 and had proven devastating in this role, capable of punching through 140mm of armor--enough to defeat any tank Italy might face. However, this much heavier and bulkier gun required designing a new turret from scratch, and also cutting down the length of the gun to 42 calibers for the sake of weight and space. The increased size also allowed the crew to grow to five over the P.43's four, adding a bow gunner who might also have served as a radio operator.

The final result was striking; a sleek, low-looking tank with protection to rival the Panther and firepower to stand with the Tiger, but predicted to weigh in at only 34 tons--around ten tons lighter than the Panther and scarcely heavier than the Sherman! This weight also meant that it maintained a good power/weight of around 12 hp/t, and potentially produce good acceleration and top speeds as a result, even before hypothetical upgrades to the engine.

The problem was, this excellent design came much, much too late. The P.43 bis was only finishing initial drafting and modeling in mid-1943, and very shortly afterwards, Italy surrendered. By the time Italy was reborn, the tank world had moved ahead in tremendous strides, and the P.43 bis was already out of date.


Historical Gallery

Sources and External Links

Italy
Light Tanks IFiat 3000 IIL6/40
Medium Tanks IIM14/41 IIIM15/42 IVP26/40 VP.43 VIP.43 bis VIIP.43 ter VIIIProgetto M35 mod. 46 VIIIP.44 Pantera IXPrototipo Standard B XProgetto M40 mod. 65 XCarro da Combattimento 45 t
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Tank Destroyers VSemovente M41 VISemovente M43 Bassotto VIISMV CC-56 VIIISMV CC-64 Vipera VIIISMV CC-67 IXControcarro 1 Mk. 2 XControcarro 3 Minotauro
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UK IVickers Medium Mk. I IIVickers Medium Mk. II IIIVickers Medium Mk. III IVMatilda IVMatilda LVT IVGrant IVAC 1 Sentinel VCavalier VValiant VSherman III VMatilda Black Prince VISherman Firefly VICromwell VIAC 4 Experimental VICromwell B VISherman VC Firefly VIIComet VIIICenturion Mk. I VIIIFV4202 VIIIChieftain/T95 VIIICenturion Mk. 5/1 RAAC VIIIChimera IXCobra IXCenturion Mk. 7/1 XCenturion Action X
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France IIID2 IIISomua S35 IVSARL 42 VRenault G1 VIBretagne Panther VIM4A1 FL 10 VIIIBat.-Châtillon Bourrasque VIIIAltProto AMX 30 VIIILorraine 40 t VIIIAMX Chasseur de chars VIIIM4A1 Revalorisé IXAMX 30 1er prototype IXChar Futur 4 IXBat.-Châtillon 25 t AP XBat.-Châtillon 25 t XAMX 30 B
USSR IIIT-29 IVA-32 IVT-28E with F-30 IVT-34 with L-11 IVT-28 VMatilda IV VT-34 shielded VM4-85 VT-34 VIA-43 VIT-34-85M VIT-34-85 Rudy VILoza's M4-A2 Sherman VIT-34-85 VIIA-44 VIIKV-13 VIIT-43 VIIT-44-122 VIIIObject 416 VIIIT-54 first prototype VIIIT-44-100 Igrovoy VIIIT-44-100 (R) VIIISTG VIIISTG Guard VIIIObject 274a VIIIT-44 IXObject 430 Version II IXObject 430 IXT-54 XObject 140 XObject 907 XT-22 medium XK-91 XObject 430U XT-62A
China VType T-34 VIType 58 VIIT-34-1 VIIIType 59 VIIIT-34-2 VIIIT-34-3 VIII59-Patton VIII122 TM VIIIType 59 G IXWZ-120 X121 X121B
Japan IIChi-Ni IIType 89 I-Go/Chi-Ro IVType 1 Chi-He VType 3 Chi-Nu VType 3 Chi-Nu Kai VIType 4 Chi-To VIIType 5 Chi-Ri VIIISTA-1 VIIISTA-2 IXType 61 XSTB-1
Czechoslovakia IVST vz. 39 VŠkoda T 24 VIŠkoda T 40 VIŠkoda T 25 VIIKonštrukta T-34/100 VIIITVP VTU Koncept VIIIŠkoda T 27 IXŠkoda T 50 XTVP T 50/51
Sweden IVLago VStrv m/42 VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 VIStrv 74 VIILeo VIIIStrv 81 VIIIPrimo Victoria VIIILansen C VIIIUDES 14 Alt 5 IXUDES 16 XUDES 15/16
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