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AMX 13 F3 AM

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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935,000  Credits Cost
270270 HP Hit Points
15.05/16.516.48/18.5 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
  5. Loader
Mobility
250280 hp Engine Power
60/14 km/h Speed Limit
2730 deg/s Traverse
16.6116.99 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
40/20/15 mm Hull Armor
Armament







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HE/HEAT
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1000/4800
Shell Cost
720/720/950/720/ HP Damage
77/185/90/185/ mm Penetration



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2.46 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 24.4 s
50% Crew: 30.23 s
75% Crew: 26.39 s
100% Crew: 23.4 s
Rammer: 21.06 s
Vents: 22.88 s
Both: 20.6 s
Both and BiA: 20.15 s
Both and Max Crew %: 19.31 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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1.96 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 30.6 s
50% Crew: 37.91 s
75% Crew: 33.1 s
100% Crew: 29.34 s
Rammer: 26.41 s
Vents: 28.69 s
Both: 25.82 s
Both and BiA: 25.26 s
Both and Max Crew %: 24.22 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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2520

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (720 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2520
50% Crew: 2037.6
75% Crew: 2332.8
100% Crew: 2628
100% Crew
Vents: 2685.6
Rammer: 2923.2
Both: 2988
Both and BiA: 3052.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3182.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3240
50% Crew: 2757.6
75% Crew: 3052.8
100% Crew: 3348
100% Crew
Rammer: 3643.2
Vents: 3405.6
Both: 3708
Both and BiA: 3772.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3902.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (720 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2520
50% Crew: 2037.6
75% Crew: 2332.8
100% Crew: 2628
100% Crew
Vents: 2685.6
Rammer: 2923.2
Both: 2988
Both and BiA: 3052.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3182.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3240
50% Crew: 2757.6
75% Crew: 3052.8
100% Crew: 3348
100% Crew
Rammer: 3643.2
Vents: 3405.6
Both: 3708
Both and BiA: 3772.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3902.4

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1862

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (950 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1862
50% Crew: 1501
75% Crew: 1719.5
100% Crew: 1938
100% Crew
Vents: 1985.5
Rammer: 2156.5
Both: 2204
Both and BiA: 2251.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2346.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2812
50% Crew: 2451
75% Crew: 2669.5
100% Crew: 2888
100% Crew
Rammer: 3106.5
Vents: 2935.5
Both: 3154
Both and BiA: 3201.5
Both and Max Crew %: 3296.5

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (720 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1411.2
50% Crew: 1137.6
75% Crew: 1303.2
100% Crew: 1468.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1504.8
Rammer: 1634.4
Both: 1670.4
Both and BiA: 1706.4
Both and Max Crew %: 1778.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2131.2
50% Crew: 1857.6
75% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew: 2188.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 2354.4
Vents: 2224.8
Both: 2390.4
Both and BiA: 2426.4
Both and Max Crew %: 2498.4

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.82 m 

With 50% Crew: 1.016 m
With 75% Crew: 0.887 m
With 100% Crew: 0.786 m
With BiA: 0.769 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.752 m
Maximum possible: 0.721 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.78 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.966 m
With 75% Crew: 0.844 m
With 100% Crew: 0.748 m
With BiA: 0.731 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.716 m
Maximum possible: 0.686 m

For more details, see Crew
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7 s 

With 50% Crew: 8.671 s
With 75% Crew: 7.572 s
With 100% Crew: 6.712 s
With GLD: 6.102 s
With BiA: 6.564 s
With BiA and Vents: 6.421 s
With both and GLD: 5.838 s
Maximum possible: 5.595 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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7 s 

With 50% Crew: 8.671 s
With 75% Crew: 7.572 s
With 100% Crew: 6.712 s
With GLD: 6.102 s
With BiA: 6.564 s
With BiA and Vents: 6.421 s
With both and GLD: 5.838 s
Maximum possible: 5.595 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
1414 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
35° Gun Arc
-0°/+45°-0°/+45° Elevation Arc
2525 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2015 % Chance of Fire






310 m 

With 50% Crew: 243.6 m
With 75% Crew: 276.8 m
With 100% Crew: 310 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 325.7 m
With Coated Optics: 341 m
With Binocular Telescope: 387.5 m
Maximum possible: 443.8 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






310 m 

With 50% Crew: 243.6 m
With 75% Crew: 276.8 m
With 100% Crew: 310 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 325.7 m
With Coated Optics: 341 m
With Binocular Telescope: 387.5 m
Maximum possible: 443.8 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 314.3 m
With 75% Crew: 357.2 m
With 100% Crew: 400 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 575.6 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


VI

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935000

The AMX 13 F3 AM is a French tier 6 self-propelled gun.

Developed at the end of the 1950s on the basis of the AMX 13. The vehicle was mass-produced until the end of the 1960s and is still in service in France, Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Morocco, and other countries.

The AMX 13 F3 AM leads to the Lorraine 155 mle. 50.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V Obusier de 155 mm C mle. 1917 77/185 720/720 2.46 0.82 7 1220 44920
VI Canon de 155 mm de 33 calibres 90/185 950/720 1.96 0.78 7 2675 65000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V SOFAM 8 Gxb 250 20 400 16000
VI Baudouin 6F 11 SRY 280 15 400 27000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

V AMX 13 F3 AM 16.5 27 0 3800 8600
VI AMX 13 F3 AM bis 18.5 30 0 3800 13300

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR 528F 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600


Compatible Equipment

Light Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Torsion Bars 1 t Class Medium-Caliber Artillery Shell Rammer Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Good top speed
  • Decent acceleration
  • Can perform drive-by's (if RNG favors you, see first con)
  • Low profile
  • Good camouflage value


Cons:


  • High dispersion while turning or moving
  • Asymmetrical gun arc can be a bit tricky to utilize
  • Absolutely no gun depression
  • 185mm penetration HEAT round of french high tier artillery pieces starts with this one.
  • Long aim-time


Performance

The Amx 13 F3 AM is one of the most mobile tier 6 artillery pieces, having a good acceleration and excellent top speed. To add to this, the camouflage values of this artillery is very good, since it has a low profile. These attributes make the AMX 13 a stealthy, easy to relocate SPG that can utilize its mobility to move to better firing lines quickly to get shots on tanks that think they are safe. This, combined with the highest damage at tier of 950 damage on its HE round makes it a threat to any tank it faces, and can allow it to one-shot many lower-tier tanks.

Although the aim time and reload has received a nerf from the values prior to 8.6, the fully aimed accuracy remains quite good and there will be no problems hitting your targets, however the aim time is extremely long. The asymmetrical gun arc has a bit of a learning curve, but for standard use the angle that you are given to shoot from is quite generous, and there is a fair margin for turning the gun without having to turn the tank. Make sure you're always angling your SPG to the left a bit, as this will maximize the use of your gun arc.

Surprisingly, despite to its good accuracy and wide gun arc, it performs very poorly in TD mode. Its high bloom and lack of gun depression make "shotgunning" tanks tricky, relegating it to ambush tactics and relying on its first (and only) shot to kill the enemy. Position on the downslope of a hill to allow your gun to point farther down and increase your chances of a hit.


Early Research

  • The Baudouin 6F 11 SRY Engine and SCR 528F Radio carry over from the AMX 13 105 AM mle. 50. Mount them immediately.
  • Next, research the AMX 13 F3 AM bis Suspension.
  • Finally, research the Canon de 155 mm de 33 calibres Gun.


Suggested Equipment


Camouflage Net Medium-Caliber Artillery Shell Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 


Gallery

Historical Info

AMX 13 F3, or the Canon de 155 mm Mle F3 Automoteur (Cn-155-F3-Am) was a 155 mm SPG developed in the early 1950s by the French Army to replace their aging American M41 Gorilla 155mm self-propelled guns. The Mk F3 is the smallest and lightest 155 mm motorized gun carriage ever produced. Due to its size and low cost it has found considerable success on the export market. Constructed on a modified AMX-13 light tank chassis, the Mk F3 is novel in incorporating room inside for only two of the eight required crewmen (the others riding in support vehicles). This allowed the 155 mm gun to be placed on a smaller and more mobile chassis than that employed by other armies, but also exposed the crew members to arms fire and splinters.

Backround

AMX 13 F3 in a deployed position

In the early 1950s the French Army desired to replace their aging American M41 howitzers with an indigenous design, based on the AMX-13 light tank chassis. Result of these efforts was the Mk F3 that entered production in the early 1960s. Its low cost and light weight made it a very popular weapon system on the export market. It was exported to a number of South American and Middle Eastern countries, and remained in production until the early 1980s, long after the French Army had themselves converted to the fully enclosed GCT 155mm self-propelled artillery system.

Design features

The Mk F3 is essentially a modified AMX-13 light tank chassis with the rear idler removed and the hull modified to accept a 155 mm cannon and its recoil, elevating and traversing mechanisms, including two rear spades which reversed into the ground to give added stability when firing. The 155 mm gun was designed by the Atelier de Construction de Tarbes (ATS), and the chassis by the Atelier de Construction Roanne (ARE). Integration of the gun with the chassis and all firing trials were undertaken by the Etablissement d'Etudes et de Fabrications d'Armement de Bourges (EFAB). Because the ARE was tooling up for production of the AMX-30 main battle tank, production of the whole AMX-13 tank family, including the F3 155 mm self-propelled gun, was transferred to Mécanique Creusot-Loire.

The F3 fired the standard 155 mm high-explosive projectile, and is also capable of firing the smoke, illumination and rocket-assisted rounds. The effective range is 20,050 m with 43.75 kg HE rounds. The hull of the Mk F3 is of all-welded steel armor measuring 10 to 20 mm, providing the two occupants with protection from small arms fire and shell splinters. The layout is conventional, with the driver's compartment at the front on the left, engine compartment to the right and the 155 mm gun above at the rear. A splashboard is mounted at the front of the hull to stop water from rushing up the glacis plate when the vehicle is fording streams.
AMX 13 F3 designed to replace M41 in French army service
A replacement road wheel is often carried on the glacis plate. The driver has a single-piece hatch that opens to the left, and is provided with three daylight periscopes, the center one of which is replaceable by an image intensification (or thermal) periscope for night driving. The commander is seated behind the driver and has a two-piece hatch that opens to either side. The commander is also provided with three daylight periscopes.

The torsion bar suspension consists of five single rubber-tyred road wheels with the drive sprocket at the front and the fifth roadwheel acting as the idler. There are three track-return rollers. The first and last road wheel stations have hydraulic shock-absorbers. The steel tracks can be fitted with rubber pads if required. Stowage containers are provided along each side of the upper part of the hull. Standard equipment includes a loudspeaker and a cable reel with 400 m of cable.

Design flaws

AMX 13 F3, smallest 155mm SPG ever built

Weaknesses to the Mk F3 design included a lack of nuclear-biological-chemical (NBC) protection for its crew. It also could accommodate only two of the eight crew members needed to operate the weapons system. The remaining six crew members and 25 rounds of ammunition travel in support vehicles, normally AMX-VCIs. If necessary, the additional crew members can travel on the upper deck of the vehicle, but in all cases the crew members must remain outside the vehicle and exposed to arms fire.

Production

A total of around 600 veichles was produced until the late eightees, with the last 10 units delivered to Morocco as late as 1997. Besides the French army, the system was widly exported and used by the armies of Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Peru, Venezuela and Qatar.


Historical Gallery

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Self-Propelled Artillery IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
Self-Propelled Guns
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France IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
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