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AMX 65 t

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Battle Tier
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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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2,500,000  Credits Cost
14501550 HP Hit Points
61.74/6365/72 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Driver
  3. Gunner
  4. Loader
  5. Radio Operator
Mobility
7501100 hp Engine Power
40/15 km/h Speed Limit
2525 deg/s Traverse
12.1516.92 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
100/80/60 mm Hull Armor
250/120/60250/80/60 mm Turret Armor
Armament







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Shell Cost
240/240/320400/400/515 HP Damage
212/259/45218/252/65 mm Penetration



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8.33 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 7.2 s
50% Crew: 8.92 s
75% Crew: 7.79 s
100% Crew: 6.9 s
Rammer: 6.21 s
Vents: 6.75 s
Both: 6.07 s
Both and BiA: 5.94 s
Both and Max Crew %: 5.69 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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4.35 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 13.8 s
50% Crew: 17.1 s
75% Crew: 14.93 s
100% Crew: 13.23 s
Rammer: 11.91 s
Vents: 12.94 s
Both: 11.64 s
Both and BiA: 11.39 s
Both and Max Crew %: 10.92 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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1939.2

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1939.2
50% Crew: 1564.8
75% Crew: 1792.8
100% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2068.8
Rammer: 2248.8
Both: 2299.2
Both and BiA: 2349.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2450.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2179.2
50% Crew: 1804.8
75% Crew: 2032.8
100% Crew: 2263.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2488.8
Vents: 2308.8
Both: 2539.2
Both and BiA: 2589.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2690.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1939.2
50% Crew: 1564.8
75% Crew: 1792.8
100% Crew: 2023.2
100% Crew
Vents: 2068.8
Rammer: 2248.8
Both: 2299.2
Both and BiA: 2349.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2450.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2179.2
50% Crew: 1804.8
75% Crew: 2032.8
100% Crew: 2263.2
100% Crew
Rammer: 2488.8
Vents: 2308.8
Both: 2539.2
Both and BiA: 2589.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2690.4

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2585.6
50% Crew: 2086.4
75% Crew: 2390.4
100% Crew: 2697.6
100% Crew
Vents: 2758.4
Rammer: 2998.4
Both: 3065.6
Both and BiA: 3132.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3267.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2905.6
50% Crew: 2406.4
75% Crew: 2710.4
100% Crew: 3017.6
100% Crew
Rammer: 3318.4
Vents: 3078.4
Both: 3385.6
Both and BiA: 3452.8
Both and Max Crew %: 3587.2

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1740

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1740
50% Crew: 1404
75% Crew: 1608
100% Crew: 1816
100% Crew
Vents: 1856
Rammer: 2016
Both: 2064
Both and BiA: 2108
Both and Max Crew %: 2200

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2140
50% Crew: 1804
75% Crew: 2008
100% Crew: 2216
100% Crew
Rammer: 2416
Vents: 2256
Both: 2464
Both and BiA: 2508
Both and Max Crew %: 2600

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1740
50% Crew: 1404
75% Crew: 1608
100% Crew: 1816
100% Crew
Vents: 1856
Rammer: 2016
Both: 2064
Both and BiA: 2108
Both and Max Crew %: 2200

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2140
50% Crew: 1804
75% Crew: 2008
100% Crew: 2216
100% Crew
Rammer: 2416
Vents: 2256
Both: 2464
Both and BiA: 2508
Both and Max Crew %: 2600

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2240.25
50% Crew: 1807.65
75% Crew: 2070.3
100% Crew: 2338.1
100% Crew
Vents: 2389.6
Rammer: 2595.6
Both: 2657.4
Both and BiA: 2714.05
Both and Max Crew %: 2832.5

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2755.25
50% Crew: 2322.65
75% Crew: 2585.3
100% Crew: 2853.1
100% Crew
Rammer: 3110.6
Vents: 2904.6
Both: 3172.4
Both and BiA: 3229.05
Both and Max Crew %: 3347.5

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.38 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.471 m
With 75% Crew: 0.411 m
With 100% Crew: 0.364 m
With BiA: 0.356 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.349 m
Maximum possible: 0.334 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

For more details, see Crew
Accuracy


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2.5 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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2.7 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.345 s
With 75% Crew: 2.92 s
With 100% Crew: 2.589 s
With GLD: 2.354 s
With BiA: 2.532 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.477 s
With both and GLD: 2.252 s
Maximum possible: 2.158 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
2326 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-10°/+20°-8°/+13° Elevation Arc
7240 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






350 m 

With 50% Crew: 275 m
With 75% Crew: 312.5 m
With 100% Crew: 350 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 367.7 m
With Coated Optics: 385 m
With Binocular Telescope: 437.5 m
Maximum possible: 501.1 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






370 m 

With 50% Crew: 290.7 m
With 75% Crew: 330.4 m
With 100% Crew: 370 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 388.7 m
With Coated Optics: 407 m
With Binocular Telescope: 462.5 m
Maximum possible: 529.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 605.4 m
With 75% Crew: 693.4 m
With 100% Crew: 782.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1125.9 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top


VIII

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2500000

The AMX 65 t is a French tier 8 heavy tank.

A heavy tank design proposed by the AMX company in 1950. Developed alongside the AMX 50 100 tank, it was supposed to feature reinforced armor with a «pike nose» and sloped armor plates. Other components and hull configuration resembled the Royal Tiger. Existed only in blueprints.

The AMX 65 t leads to the AMX M4 mle. 51.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII 90 mm DCA 45 212/259/45 240/240/320 8.82 0.38 2.3 2750 121250
VIII 100 mm SA47 232/263/50 300/300/400 6.45 0.34 3 3000 127550
IX 120 mm D. 1203 218/252/65 400/400/515 4.35 0.36 2.7 3580 185000

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Turrets

Tier Turret Turret Armor (front/sides/rear)
(mm)
Turret Traverse Speed
(deg/s)
View Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII AMX M4 mle. 49 Modifié 250/120/60 23 350 16000 20000
VIII AMX 65 t tourelle classique de 120 250/80/60 26 370 18000 32000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VIII Maybach HL 230 P45F 750 20 750 55000
IX Maybach HL 295 850 20 750 78000
IX Maybach HL 295 à injection d'essence 1100 20 1200 86000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII AMX 65 t 63 25 B/2 13000 19000
VIII AMX 65 t bis 72 25 B/2 13000 36000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600


Compatible Equipment

Vertical Stabilizer Mk 2 Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Venting System Innovative Loading System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Torsion Bars 5+ t Class Improved Ventilation Class 3 Large-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Choice between 2 good guns: hard hitting 120mm D.1203 with above-average gun handling, or accurate 100mm SA47 with higher penetrating power

- Very powerful top engine provides better power-to-weight ratio than many mediums

- Oddly shaped yet strong turret front, can be very effective when utilizing 8° of gun depression

- Above average hull traverse in top configuration


Cons:

- Hull protection is considerably weaker with worse thickness and pike nose angle than its peers, the 110 and the IS-3

- Huge rangefinder on the top turret usually won't deflect most same or higher tier guns, thus compromising hull-down tactic's efficiency

- Very bad terrain resistance severly limiting its mobility

- Weak sides, prone to flanking

- Horrifying stock grind if one have not previously researched through any other high tier French branches


Performance

At the very first glance, one might get the impression that this vehicle is the very definition of omnipotence: capable main gun, bouncy pike nose, rounded turret and on top of these, very high power-to-weight ratio. However, most players have also familiarized themselves with the AMX 50 120 and the Fochs: rather thin and poorly angled pike nose, weak cupolas and bad terrain resistance. Unfortunately, these are the very same hindrances AMX 65t shared with its cousins. With its giant hull front only 10mm thicker than the AMX 50 120, AMX 65t will struggle to block shots coming from even certain low tier vehicles. This major weakness relegates the tank to a second-line supporter/flanker role. There it could work like an hybrid between the IS-3 and the T34, combining hull-down ability with some mobility, though mastering in none.


Early Research

The 100mm SA47 gun will be available if one have researched through the auto-loading heavy branch or the medium branches. Mount it immediatly.

Otherwise, only the HL 295 engine and the radio are carried over from the prior vehicle. Mount these to ease the priority-one grind for the 100mm SA47 gun, unless you're desperately short on funds.

If you find the 100mm gun coupled with stock turret still acceptable, grind for the top engine and then tracks: the improved fuel-injecting model of HL 295 will provide a major boost on mobility, and continues to serve the next vehicle, AMX M4 mle. 51.

If you prefer to have more firepower at disposal, research the tracks for necessary weight capacity then the turret and optionally the 120mm D.1203 gun. Alternatively, one may substitute the tracks with Enhanced Torsion Bars equipment. Just be noticed that the D.1203 gun is not required to move on to the next vehicle, and will not unlock for free upon researching the AMX M4 mle. 51.

Finish any remaining modules and go from there.



Documented Tank and Crew Builds

Since this vehicle has only mediocre damage-per-minute on 120mm gun and low alpha damage on 90mm and 100mm guns, a Gun Rammer is almost mandatory. The rather lousy gun dispersion values on movement and traverse can be greatly compensated by installing a Vertical Stabilizer, but the Gun Laying Drive is not that useful unless one sticks with the 100mm SA47 gun. The third slot depends mostly on one's playstyle: If not occupied by Enhanced Torsion Bars, it could be Ventilation to further improve overall parameters, or Coated Optics to make up for subpar view range. Toolbox also worths consideration if one gets entangled in crossfire from time to time.



Gallery

Historical Info

The AMX 65T is one of the many proposals for a tank destroyer version of the AMX M4, developed in 1950 alongside the oscillating turret. The tank destroyer would have had a "chevron type" upper front plate with a pike nose, a cast turret, and a 100mm gun. The final variant selected for the project would have had 45mm of frontal armor and weighed 51.2 tons, but heavier variants with thicker armor - like the AMX 65t - also were considered. Ultimately, none of these tank destroyers were ever built, though separate elements - such as the pike nose - were later built in metal.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

* The AMX 65T was intended to be a tank destroyer, though the designation was arbitrary - the ARL 44 was reclassified as a tank destroyer during the AMX 65T's development.
  • The 120mm gun nor the 90mm gun were ever proposed for the AMX 65T.


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