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Lorraine 155 mle. 50

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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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1,420,000  Credits Cost
340340 HP Hit Points
29.65/3029.98/32 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Radio Operator
  5. Loader
Mobility
650700 hp Engine Power
60/14 km/h Speed Limit
2730 deg/s Traverse
21.9223.35 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
40/30/20 mm Hull Armor
Armament







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1000/5200
Shell Cost
700//700/700/ HP Damage
39//40/40/ mm Penetration



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2.19 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 27.4 s
50% Crew: 33.94 s
75% Crew: 29.64 s
100% Crew: 26.27 s
Rammer: 23.64 s
Vents: 25.69 s
Both: 23.12 s
Both and BiA: 22.62 s
Both and Max Crew %: 21.68 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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2.01 r/m 

Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 29.8 s
50% Crew: 36.92 s
75% Crew: 32.23 s
100% Crew: 28.57 s
Rammer: 25.71 s
Vents: 27.94 s
Both: 25.15 s
Both and BiA: 24.6 s
Both and Max Crew %: 23.58 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
Rate of Fire






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2163

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (700 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2163
50% Crew: 1743
75% Crew: 2002
100% Crew: 2254
100% Crew
Vents: 2303
Rammer: 2506
Both: 2562
Both and BiA: 2618
Both and Max Crew %: 2730

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2863
50% Crew: 2443
75% Crew: 2702
100% Crew: 2954
100% Crew
Rammer: 3206
Vents: 3003
Both: 3262
Both and BiA: 3318
Both and Max Crew %: 3430

See here, here, or here for more information.






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1407

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (700 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1407
50% Crew: 1134
75% Crew: 1302
100% Crew: 1470
100% Crew
Vents: 1505
Rammer: 1631
Both: 1673
Both and BiA: 1708
Both and Max Crew %: 1778

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2107
50% Crew: 1834
75% Crew: 2002
100% Crew: 2170
100% Crew
Rammer: 2331
Vents: 2205
Both: 2373
Both and BiA: 2408
Both and Max Crew %: 2478

See here, here, or here for more information.

Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (700 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1407
50% Crew: 1134
75% Crew: 1302
100% Crew: 1470
100% Crew
Vents: 1505
Rammer: 1631
Both: 1673
Both and BiA: 1708
Both and Max Crew %: 1778

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2107
50% Crew: 1834
75% Crew: 2002
100% Crew: 2170
100% Crew
Rammer: 2331
Vents: 2205
Both: 2373
Both and BiA: 2408
Both and Max Crew %: 2478

See here, here, or here for more information.
Damage Per Minute


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0.71 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.88 m
With 75% Crew: 0.768 m
With 100% Crew: 0.681 m
With BiA: 0.666 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.651 m
Maximum possible: 0.624 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.69 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.855 m
With 75% Crew: 0.746 m
With 100% Crew: 0.662 m
With BiA: 0.647 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.633 m
Maximum possible: 0.607 m

For more details, see Crew
Accuracy


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5.2 s 

With 50% Crew: 6.442 s
With 75% Crew: 5.625 s
With 100% Crew: 4.986 s
With GLD: 4.533 s
With BiA: 4.876 s
With BiA and Vents: 4.77 s
With both and GLD: 4.337 s
Maximum possible: 4.157 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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5 s 

With 50% Crew: 6.194 s
With 75% Crew: 5.408 s
With 100% Crew: 4.794 s
With GLD: 4.358 s
With BiA: 4.689 s
With BiA and Vents: 4.587 s
With both and GLD: 4.17 s
Maximum possible: 3.997 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
Aim time
1414 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
24° Gun Arc
-0°/+45°-0°/+45° Elevation Arc
2828 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






270 m 

With 50% Crew: 212.1 m
With 75% Crew: 241.1 m
With 100% Crew: 270 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 283.7 m
With Coated Optics: 297 m
With Binocular Telescope: 337.5 m
Maximum possible: 386.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






270 m 

With 50% Crew: 212.1 m
With 75% Crew: 241.1 m
With 100% Crew: 270 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 283.7 m
With Coated Optics: 297 m
With Binocular Telescope: 337.5 m
Maximum possible: 386.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 605.4 m
With 75% Crew: 693.4 m
With 100% Crew: 782.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1125.9 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
Signal Range
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VII

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The Lorraine 155 mle. 50 is a French tier 7 self-propelled gun.

Developed in France after the war on the basis of the experimental Lorraine 40 t. The vehicle passed trials in 1950, but never entered mass production or saw service.

The Lorraine 155 mle. 50 leads to the Lorraine 155 mle. 51.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI Canon de 155 mm de 33 calibres 39 700 2.19 0.71 5.2 2675 65000
VII Obusier de 155 mm mle. 1950 40/40 700/700 2.01 0.69 5 2675 96000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII Maybach HL 210 TRM P30 650 20 850 35500
VIII Maybach HL 230 TRM P30 700 20 1200 54000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(гр/сек)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI Lorraine 155 mle. 50 30 27 0 14000 14600
VII Lorraine 155 mle. 50 bis 32 30 0 14000 21000

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(м)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600


Compatible Equipment

Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Fill Tanks with CO2 Coated Optics Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Innovative Loading System Extended Spare Parts Kit Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Enhanced Torsion Bars 3 t Class Medium-Caliber Artillery Shell Rammer Binocular Telescope Toolbox "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Pre-Battle Maintenance Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Gun range: 1350 m for both available guns.
  • Good acceleration.
  • Nice top speed maintainable on flat road.
  • Quick aim time.
  • Split best signal range for the tier.


Cons:


  • Low accuracy an rate of fire for the guns' alpha and caliber
  • No gun depression, arty-standard reticule bloom combined with high speed makes self-defense at short range impossible
  • Instead of a second Loader (like its predecessor and successor) it needs a Radio Operator. This breaks the BIA perk. (if you
  • Bit low shell trajectory makes obstacles interfering.
  • Terrible firepower for its tier


Performance

This arty sacrifices (a lot of) firepower for mobility better than all but the fastest mediums. Since you use arty's firepower 90% of the time and 1% for mobility, this is considered one of the worst arty within its tier.


Early Research

  • The SCR 528F radio carries over from the AMX 13 F3 AM. Mount it immediately.
  • Research the Lorraine 155 mle. 50 bis Suspension, followed by the Obusier de 155 mm mle. 1950 gun.
  • Research the Maybach HL 230 TRM P30 engine last, as the performance gain is minimal.


Suggested Equipment


Artillery Shell Rammer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Camouflage Net 


Gallery

Historical Info

Lorraine 155 mm model 1950

In 1950, Lorraine started the development of its own self-propelled gun. Lorraine’s engineers proposed two different concepts on the same chassis, although at certain point of the development even a wheeled chassis was considered as an alternative to the tracked one. Official names of the prototypes were “1a” (model 1950) and “2a” (model 1951). The main armament of both prototypes was 155 mm howitzer. First prototype, marked as “model 1950” had its howitzer mounted in the centrally placed casemate, while the “model 1951” had the structure pushed to the front of the veichle. Early versions had a Talbot made engine, but by the year 1951 a Maybach engine was installed.

Trials revealed a number of serious design flaws, so in 1954 a model with a fully rotatable turret was considered. As at the time Batignolles Chatillon was already involved in development of similar project, Lorraine’s ideas were rejected, and all further development was canceled.



Specifications:

Weight: 30.30 tons

Dimensions: L: 7,96 m, W: 3,30 m, H: 2,77 m

Ground clearance: 0.40 m

Armament: one 155 mm howitzer (28 rounds) and one 20 mm (250 rounds) gun for self defense

Engine: Engine Maybach HL 230 with 685 hp

Maximum speed: 62 km/h


Historical Gallery

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Medium Tanks IIID2 IIISomua S35 IVSARL 42 VRenault G1 VIIILorraine 40 t VIIIAMX Chasseur de chars VIIIM4A1 Revalorisé IXAMX 30 1er prototype IXBat.-Châtillon 25 t AP XBat.-Châtillon 25 t XAMX 30 B
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Self-Propelled Artillery IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
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France IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
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