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AMX 50 100

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[Client Values; Actual values in
Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes.
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2,552,500  Credits Cost
1400280 HP Hit Points
49.1/5027.93/57 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Loader)
  2. Gunner (Loader)
  3. Driver
  4. Radio Operator (Loader)
Mobility
575850 hp Engine Power
51/20 km/h Speed Limit
3032 deg/s Traverse
11.7130.43 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
NoNo Pivot
Armor
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90/30/3090/30/30 mm Turret Armor
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Shell Cost
240/240/320300/300/400 HP Damage
170/248/45232/263/50 mm Penetration



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7.4 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 6 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.73 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 35 s
50% Crew: 44.55 s
75% Crew: 39.2 s
100% Crew: 35 s
With Vents: 34.2 s
With Vents and BiA: 33.56 s

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5.66 r/m 

Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 6 rounds
Cycle Time: 2.73 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 50 s
50% Crew: 63.64 s
75% Crew: 56 s
100% Crew: 50 s
With Vents: 48.86 s
With Vents and BiA: 47.94 s

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Rate of Fire






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1802.4

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1802.4
50% Crew: 1728
75% Crew: 1768.8
100% Crew: 1802.4
With Vents: 1807.2
With Vents and BiA: 1814.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2023.2
50% Crew: 2001.6
75% Crew: 2013.6
100% Crew: 2023.2
With Vents: 2025.6
With Vents and BiA: 2028

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1802.4
50% Crew: 1728
75% Crew: 1768.8
100% Crew: 1802.4
With Vents: 1807.2
With Vents and BiA: 1814.4

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2023.2
50% Crew: 2001.6
75% Crew: 2013.6
100% Crew: 2023.2
With Vents: 2025.6
With Vents and BiA: 2028

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2403.2
50% Crew: 2304
75% Crew: 2358.4
100% Crew: 2403.2
With Vents: 2409.6
With Vents and BiA: 2419.2

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2697.6
50% Crew: 2668.8
75% Crew: 2684.8
100% Crew: 2697.6
With Vents: 2700.8
With Vents and BiA: 2704

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1839

Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (300 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1839
50% Crew: 1794
75% Crew: 1818
100% Crew: 1839
With Vents: 1845
With Vents and BiA: 1848

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2013
50% Crew: 2007
75% Crew: 2010
100% Crew: 2013
With Vents: 2013
With Vents and BiA: 2013

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (300 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 1839
50% Crew: 1794
75% Crew: 1818
100% Crew: 1839
With Vents: 1845
With Vents and BiA: 1848

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2013
50% Crew: 2007
75% Crew: 2010
100% Crew: 2013
With Vents: 2013
With Vents and BiA: 2013

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (400 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 2452
50% Crew: 2392
75% Crew: 2424
100% Crew: 2452
With Vents: 2460
With Vents and BiA: 2464

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 2684
50% Crew: 2676
75% Crew: 2680
100% Crew: 2684
With Vents: 2684
With Vents and BiA: 2684

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Damage Per Minute


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0.38 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.471 m
With 75% Crew: 0.411 m
With 100% Crew: 0.364 m
With BiA: 0.356 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.349 m
Maximum possible: 0.334 m

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0.36 m 

With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

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3 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.716 s
With 75% Crew: 3.245 s
With 100% Crew: 2.877 s
With GLD: 2.615 s
With BiA: 2.813 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.752 s
With both and GLD: 2.502 s
Maximum possible: 2.398 s

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3 s 

With 50% Crew: 3.716 s
With 75% Crew: 3.245 s
With 100% Crew: 2.877 s
With GLD: 2.615 s
With BiA: 2.813 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.752 s
With both and GLD: 2.502 s
Maximum possible: 2.398 s

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Aim time
3232 deg/s Turret Traverse
360° Gun Arc
-9°/+13°-9°/+13° Elevation Arc
7260 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
2020 % Chance of Fire






380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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380 m 

With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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View Range


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400 m 

With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

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750 m 

With 50% Crew: 605.4 m
With 75% Crew: 693.4 m
With 100% Crew: 782.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1125.9 m

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Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top

Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)

Camouflage

  • Stationary: 5.7%
  • When Moving: 3.1%
  • When Firing: 1.4%


Terrain Resistance

  • On Hard Ground: 1.15
  • On Medium Ground: 1.25
  • On Soft Ground: 2.01


Dispersion Change Values

  • Turret Contribution
  • Rotation: 0.15
  • Shot Recoil: 3.84
  • Suspension Contribution
  • Acceleration: 0.21
  • Turning: 0.21


With 100% Crew

VIII

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The AMX 50 100 is a French tier 8 heavy tank.

The AMX 50 100 heavy tank was a further development of the M4 project. The first prototype was built in 1949. The 55-ton vehicle featured a 100-mm gun in the oscillating turret. The prototype was tested with gasoline and diesel engines from 1950 through 1952. The vehicle never entered mass production nor saw service.

The AMX 50 100 is the first French heavy tank to receive an autoloader, which features a 6 round magazine and an impressive potential damage per clip. The AMX 50 100 is very flexible can be used in a great variety of ways. It's very fast and mobile and its 100mm SA 47 gun boasts good accuracy, penetration, and damage which allows it be effective in sniping, supporting advancing teammates, and as heavy firepower for medium wolf packs. Similarly to its predecessor, the armor of the AMX 50 100 is very weak and receives full damage from arty and HE shells if hit on the sides and rear. The magazine reload takes 50 seconds which makes a cornered AMX 50 100 very vulnerable. Thus, a good 50 100 always leaves itself an escape route and stays safe until it's time to unload its powerful cannon.

The AMX 50 100 leads to the AMX 50 120.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm)
Damage
(HP)
Rate of fire
(rounds/minute)
Dispersion
(m/100m)
Aiming time
(s)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII 90 mm F3 170/248/45 240/240/320 7.4 0.38 3 2200 87000
VIII 90 mm DCA 45 212/259/45 240/240/320 7.4 0.36 3 2750 121250
VIII 100 mm SA47 232/263/50 300/300/400 5.66 0.36 3 3000 127550

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp)
Chance of Fire on Impact
(%)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VI Maybach HL 230 575 20 700 26000
VIII Maybach HL 230 P45F 750 20 750 55000
IX Maybach HL 295 850 20 750 78000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т)
Traverse Speed
(gr/sec)
Rmin Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

VII AMX M4 mle. 50 50 30 B/2 11000 16450
VIII AMX 50 100 57 32 B/2 11000 37250

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m)
Weight
(kg)
Price
(Credits)

X SCR-528 Fr 750 80 54000
VI SCR 508 400 100 21600

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 1 Vertical Stabilizer Class 1 Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 1 Stabilizing Equipment System Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 1 Improved Hardening Class 1 Additional Grousers Class 1 Modified Configuration Class 1 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 1 Improved Aiming Class 1 Improved Ventilation Class 1 Binocular Telescope Class 1 Turbocharger Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Stabilizer Greasing Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters 100-octane Gasoline 105-octane Gasoline Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • 6-round autoloader with an average burst of 1800 alpha if all shots penetrate
  • Excellent penetration, rarely needs premium ammunition
  • Very good gun depression
  • Excellent top speed and acceleration for a heavy tank, comparable to mediums
  • Easy stock grind, most modules carry over from the AMX M4 mle. 45


Cons:


  • Large target with poor armor and a low hitpoint pool
  • Punishing clip reload time
  • Poor aim time and slow shell cycling, must stay exposed for a long time to empty a full clip
  • Bad gun handling, firing on the move is mostly a waste
  • Extremely vulnerable to artillery and high pen HE shells


Performance

The AMX 50 100 is a glass cannon. Although, the 6-round drum has a tremendous average damage of 1800, extreme care must be taken when driving an AMX 50 100. Its negligible armor attracts enemy fire and often causes a swift trip back to the garage. The perk Sixth Sense is highly recommended as arty are well aware they can hit 50 100's for full damage. By staying alive you'll naturally find yourself dealing more and more damage as you reload your drum again and again. In order to maximize survivability and damage potential, a 50 100 must wait for the right opportunity to make use of its strengths. Whether it's unloading on an enemy caught out in the open, making a dash for arty, supporting your teammates through flanking, or chasing down speedy enemies, the choice of action a 50 100 makes can have a huge effect on the outcome of the battle. Always try to go for the kill, finish off targets you started unloading on, and above all, know when to pull back. Sometimes you won't be able to unload your entire clip without taking an extra shot from the enemy. Some people might prefer the 90 mm DCA 45 featured first on the ARL 44 over the 100 mm SA47 as the reload of the clip is much shorter (though the reload between shells is the same), and the damage per minute is higher. Also, the shells are much cheaper (255 credits for the 90 mm shells vs 1030 for the 100 mm shells).

The AMX 50 100 is more of a tank destroyer than true heavy in comparison to its fellow Tier 8s; avoid taking the front lines, and never advance alone if possible. Stay observant of both teams and take advantage of opportunities as they come up. Understand that an AMX 50 100 cannot limit itself to a single role constantly. Everything about the 50 100, except armor and horribly long reload, is excellent for its tier. The 50 100 is overall a fun tank to learn and play and is a popular keeper among many Tier 8 aficionados, but only really shines in platoons. Even then, city maps are usually a unpleasant experience for this tank.

The AMX 50 100, due to its characteristics, is commonly used in Team battles and tournaments.


Early Research

  • The 90mm DCA 45, top radio, and top engine carry over from the AMX M4 mle. 45
  • Research the tracks first, as while it is possible to mount all available modules from the start, doing so will leave no weight left for equipment (alternatively, temporarily install the enhanced suspension upgrade to increase carrying capacity)
  • Research the 100mm SA47 gun
  • You are ready to grind your way to the AMX 50 120


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationVertical Stabilizer Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Coated Optics 


External Reviews and Opinions

Gallery

Historical Info

AMX 50 100 during a parade in Paris, 1950. At the time France was counting the AMX 50 to become the future tank for the Western European nations

When it became obvious that frontal armor of only 30 mm on M 4 tank would not be sufficient for the next generation of french tanks, the prototype was uparmored. In order to save weight. it was decided to install a novel oscillating turret, designed by FAMH. Nevertheless, when the first prototype, now under the designation AMX 50 after its intended weight class, was delivered in 1949, it weighed 53.7 metric tonnes.

Development history

In the winter of 1950 instead of the 90 mm, a 100 mm gun was fitted, designed by the Arsenal de Tarbes. The second prototype with a slightly different turret, but also with a 100 mm gun, was ready soon after. The prototypes had a length, with gun, of 10.43, a width of 3.40 and a height of 3.41 metres. It was intended to fit a 1200 hp engine to attain a speed much superior to all existing medium tank types. The Maybach HL 295 (a redesigned German gas engine in 1945 captured at Friedrichshafen by Engineer-General Joseph Molinié) and a Saurer diesel engine were tested. Both failed to deliver the required output and maximum speed was in fact no higher than 51 km/h. The prototypes were tested between 1950 and 1952.

Parallel designs

AMX Chasseur de Char
Competitive designt that was eventualy rejected.Somua SM closely resembled the AMX 50; It too had an oscillating turret, first with a 90 mm, then with a 100 mm gun.

AMX from 1946 designed the AMX Chasseur de Char, a lightly armoured 34 tonne tank destroyer based on the M4 chassis, but fitted with a modern rounded sleek turret for the 90 mm gun. No prototype was built.

Somua SM

In competition with AMX, the SOMUA company also developed a tank to meet the demand for a heavily armed vehicle: the Char SOMUA SM, that however had been conceived as a heavy tank, Char Lourd, in the sixty tonne weight class, from the very beginning, again imitating the German King Tiger. The order to build a prototype was given in 1946, the vehicle was delivered in October 1951, weighing 56 metric tonnes. Both companies had in the end been forced by the Army to work along identical and detailed specifications. As a result the SOMUA SM closely resembled the AMX 50: it too had an oscillating turret, first with a 90 mm, then with a 100 mm gun. The main external difference was that the nine road wheels were not overlapping. It only was tested between January and July 1953 as many parts had not been sufficiently developed; the delay ensured that the type was rejected.

AMX 50 Series development history

Oscillating turret

Close up photo of a typical oscillating turret design

Because there were five prototypes, it is not possible to give a description applying to all of them in detail. Weighing about fifty-five tons, the general AMX 50 project was the heaviest of a trio of French AFV designs of the postwar period (the others being the AMX-13 and the Panhard EBR) to feature an oscillating turret. The oscillating turret design, lacking a conventional gun-mantlet, is in two separate parts, with an upper and lower part connected by two hinge bolts or pivots, the gun being fixed within the upper section. The horizontal movement of the gun, traversing, is conventional, but the vertical movement, elevation, is achieved through the pivoting of the entire upper section with respect to the lower section. This method of elevation has two main advantages. Firstly it allows for a smaller turret volume, as no internal space is needed for the vertical movement of the gun breech. Secondly, it allows the use of a relatively simple auto-loader fed by multiround magazines, achieving a very high rate of fire for as long as the magazines were loaded, as the gun is also fixed with respect to the auto-loader located in the back of the upper turret, i.c. a protruding bustle. The automatic loading system worked satisfactorily when the calibre was 100 mm. After the larger 120 mm gun was introduced, reliability suffered, due to the increased weight of the rounds used. The oscillating turret was a very fashionable concept in the fifties, and also applied in some American projects, such as the T57 and T58. Only the French however, would produce operational systems.

German rolemodels

The hull was equipped with a torsion bar suspension designed to ensure a vehicle with good cross-country mobility. The hull and suspension recalled both the German Tiger and the Panther tanks which, having entered French service after the war, were well known and deliberately imitated. Especially the engine deck, the sprockets and the tracks are strongly reminiscent of the German design style. The nine overlapping tyred road wheels each side, were however much smaller. The French engineers had not been aware at first that the much admired German overlapping design had been motivated by a shortage of high quality rubber, necessitating large road wheels to lower tyre tension, which then were made overlapping to better distribute the load pressure. As France would have no trouble obtaining rubber of the desired quality, this feature was superfluous. Therefore the road wheels were made smaller, compared to the first design proposal, both to save weight and lower the profile of the tank, which was quite high due to a deep hull, a problem only changed in the fifth prototype. The track now had to be supported by five top rollers. The overlapping system as such was maintained in all prototypes; with smaller wheels it allowed for nine instead of the originally planned eight wheels, five forming the outer, four the inner row.

AMX 50 100 during trials. First of the AMX 50 protoypes is easily recognisable by an oscillating turret and a Panther like sloped front plate
The engine and transmission system was in the rear of the vehicle with rear drive sprockets. The transmission was derived from the ZF of the Panther. The functions of final drive and steering were combined in a single assembly; for each gear two turning radii could be selected. The engine was the Maybach HL295 12 cylinder of 29.5 litres, using fuel injection combined with spark ignition. The project goal was to bring the engine output to 1200 hp, implying a very favourable hp/litre ratio of over forty. This proved to be unrealistically ambitious, given the level of technological development at the time; in reality not even a ratio of thirty was reliably attained.

The hull sides were vertical, as in the case of the Tiger, while the front of the hull was in the first three prototypes evenly inclined at approximately 40 degrees from the horizontal, using sloped armour similar to that of the Panther and Tiger II. The corners between the glacis and the sides were truncated. The first two prototypes had a frontal protection level equivalent to about 120 mm "line-of-sight" thickness in the horizontal plane. The type was thus not particularly heavily armoured for its time. The weight increase with the third prototype was mainly caused by the larger turret and even in its fourth "uparmoured" form, doubling the frontal armour thickness, the AMX 50 was less well protected than its American and British competitors, themselves inferior in armour to the Soviet heavy tanks they had been created to fight. The fifth prototype used a lower cast hull, with a rounded frontal section for a better weight efficiency.

Above the massive hull, there was the oscillating turret, smaller, lighter and more compact than that of the Tiger; the sloped face of the upper part had a thickness of 85 mm. In the turret rear back there was the commander's cupola, well equipped with optical equipment. The turret had an optical rangefinder. The first two prototypes had twin 7.5 mm "Reibel" machine guns placed on top of the roof as an AA-weapon, a third was coaxial. In the first design proposal for a 120 mm version, the conventional turret had a high cupola armed with both a machine gun and a 20 mm MG 151 rapid fire cannon. However the third and fourth "120 mm" oscillating turret prototypes had a single 7.5 mm AA machine gun and a second 7.5 mm coaxial machine gun. For the production vehicles it was considered to install a coaxial 20 mm gun; lighter armoured targets could then be engaged without depleting the limited ammunition stock in the turret magazines. Despite the auto-loader, the crew was four: a second man was seated in the hull, functioning as radio-operator, but mainly needed to replenish the turret magazines from the hull ammunition stocks.

Jack of all trades wannabe

AMX50 120. First upguned and uparmored prototypes from the year 1955. Note the spear (IS-3 like) shaped front hull

The AMX 50 as originally planned, would have been a medium, not a heavy, tank. It was supposed to be light, well armed and above all mobile. When the first two prototypes were made, low weight had already been sacrificed in favour of a high protection level, but it was still supposed to be a quite agile vehicle, in the 45 - 50 tonne weight class, with a hp/tonne ratio of over twenty. Expectations were high: as General Molinié afterwards ironically put it, it was hoped to create a tank with the protection of the Panther, the firepower of the Tiger, the mobility and abundance of the T-34, the reliability of the M4 Sherman and all that weighing less than the M26 Pershing. At that time France hoped to regain its position as a Great Power; rebuilding its armaments industry served this goal. To build an indigenous battle tank was however not merely a question of national prestige. Europe as a whole was trying to recover from the devastations caused by the war and to assert a modicum of independence towards the two superpowers, the USA and the USSR. To this end in 1948 the Treaty of Brussels was signed, which among other things was also a common defence agreement. The AMX 50, superior in armament and mobility to the existing American and British designs, was seen as the logical candidate for a common European tank, to equip the future armies of the Western European Union defence organisation. The prototypes were proudly displayed during the 1950 Bastille Day parade. Somewhat inconsequentially, it was hoped that the Americans would fund such a tank, as the financial position of the European states would not allow them to rearm.

AMX 50B 120 rear view
That same year, the situation changed drastically due to the outbreak of the Korean War. Quickly the USA recommenced medium tank mass production, of the new M47 Patton. When this tank proved to be unsatisfactory, an even more advanced type was taken into production for the American forces, the M48 Patton; thousands of M47s were leased for free to the European allies, France included. The AMX 50 was suddenly made redundant as a medium tank, despite a "100 mm" prototype being sent in 1952 to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds for, successful, tests.

Engine problems

To save the project, a new rôle was found in the Soviet heavy tank threat. In the early fifties, NATO tacticians were worried by the strong armour of the Soviet vehicles, that seemed to be immune to the guns of the existing Western types. In response Britain would develop the Conqueror and the USA the M103 heavy tank; abandoning the SOMUA SM, it was decided to let the AMX 50 evolve into a comparable type, even though other French heavy tank projects were in existence, such as the Char de 70 tonnes, a sort of "AMX 70". Already having a large chassis, the AMX 50 could in principle easily be adapted to carry the desired 120 mm gun — a derivation by the Atelier du Havre of the American gun, using the same ammunition — and had the advantage of a, on paper, very powerful engine. In practice there were many obstacles. Room could in fact only be found by increasing the height of the lower turret half, negating the advantages of the oscillating concept and creating a dangerous shot trap. The "uparmoured" version, with its deeper hull and flatter turret, was specially designed to counter this and make the vehicle immune in long range fire engagements, but further increased weight. In 1955 the AMX 50 was nevertheless very close to being ordered by the French government, that expected to produce the type for the reconstituted German Army also. A production was planned of a hundred for 1956. This decision had to be delayed however, due to the fact the engine problems had not been solved: reliability could only be assured if the output was limited to 850 hp, causing a mediocre hp/tonne ratio of about 13:1.

Delays proved fatal

Seventy-ton version of the AMX 50 battle tank with a 120 mm gun and a frontal armor of 210 mm
The delay proved fatal to the project. In the late fifties, swift advances in hollow charge technology led to an increased vulnerability for heavy tanks. Mobility thus gained a priority over protection and the very concept of a heavy tank became obsolete. As a result the project was changed again in intention, now trying to present itself as an agile main battle tank, with the same gun as the Conqueror but much lighter and more powerful. This failed as it was much too large and expensive; oscillating turrets also became unpopular as they were inherently difficult to protect against nuclear and chemical contamination. The engine problems with the Maybach were never overcome and lowering the hull to save weight, as was done for the final prototype, made it impossible to install a larger engine. Recognizing that the problem of combining excellent mobility with heavy armour was for the time being irresolvable, the AMX 50 project was terminated; the priority given to mobility demanded a new design concept, leading to the AMX 30, the lightest MBT of its time. Only in the early eighties would France again attempt to combine heavy armour and armament in its tank designs, beginning with the later AMX 32 prototypes. The AMX 50 would not be a complete waste of time and effort however, as much technological knowledge had been gained from which the AMX 30 would profit. In the Musée des Blindés at Saumur an AMX 50 is shown, a combination of the last cast hull and the Tourelle D.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

Actual frontal turret armor is 200 mm thick, while the sides are 60 mm.
  • Actual hull armor values are 90/40/40, not 90/35/30.
  • Historical HEAT round with 320 mm of penetration is missing. This was the standard ammunition of the 90 mm F3 gun. The AP and APCR rounds are fake.


France
Light Tanks IRenault FT IID1 IIAM 39 Gendron-Somua IIAMR 35 IIFCM 36 IIRenault R35 IIHotchkiss H35 IIIAMX 38 IVAMX 40 VAMX ELC bis VIAMX 12 t VIPanhard AMD 178B VIIAMX 13 75 VIIHotchkiss EBR VIIAMX 13 57 VIIAMX 13 57 GF VIIIPanhard EBR 75 (FL 10) VIIIPanhard AML Lynx 6x6 VIIIBat.-Châtillon 12 t VIIIELC EVEN 90 IXAMX 13 90 IXPanhard EBR 90 XPanhard EBR 105 XAMX 13 105
Medium Tanks IIID2 IIISomua S35 IVSARL 42 VRenault G1 VIBretagne Panther VIM4A1 FL 10 VIIIBat.-Châtillon Bourrasque VIIIAltProto AMX 30 VIIILorraine 40 t VIIIAMX Chasseur de chars VIIIM4A1 Revalorisé IXAMX 30 1er prototype IXChar Futur 4 IXBat.-Châtillon 25 t AP XBat.-Châtillon 25 t XAMX 30 B
Heavy Tanks IVB1 VBDR G1 B VIARL 44 VIIAMX M4 mle. 45 VIIIAMX 50 100 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté VIIIAMX 65 t VIIISomua SM VIIIFCM 50 t IXAMX 50 120 IXLorraine 50 t IXAMX M4 mle. 51 XAMX 50 B XAMX M4 mle. 54
Tank Destroyers IIRenault FT AC IIIFCM 36 Pak 40 IIIRenault UE 57 IVSomua SAu 40 VM10 RBFM VS35 CA VIARL V39 VIIAMX AC mle. 46 VIIIAMX AC mle. 48 VIIIAMX Canon d'assaut 105 IXAMX 50 Foch XAMX 50 Foch (155) XAMX 50 Foch B
Self-Propelled Artillery IIRenault FT 75 BS IIILorraine 39L AM IVAMX 105 AM mle. 47 VAMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 V105 leFH18B2 VIAMX 13 F3 AM VIILorraine 155 mle. 50 VIIILorraine 155 mle. 51 IXBat.-Châtillon 155 55 XBat.-Châtillon 155 58
Heavy Tanks
USA VT14 VT1 Heavy Tank VIPawlack Tank VIM6 VIIKing Tiger (Captured) VIIM-II-Y VIIT29 VIIIChrysler K VIIIChrysler K GF VIIIT26E5 VIIIT26E5 Patriot VIIIM54 Renegade VIIIT77 VIIIM-III-Y VIIIM-IV-Y VIIIM6A2E1 VIIIT32 VIIIT34 VIIIT34 B IXAE Phase I IXConcept 1B IXM-VI-Y IXM103 IXT54E1 XM-V-Y XT110E5 XT57 Heavy Tank
UK VChurchill I VExcelsior VIChurchill VII VITOG II* VIIBlack Prince VIIFV201 (A45) VIIICharlemagne VIIICaliban VIIIGonsalo VIIICaernarvon VIIICaernarvon Action X IXFV4201 Chieftain Proto IXConqueror XFV215b XSuper Conqueror XT95/FV4201 Chieftain
Germany IVPz.Kpfw. B2 740 (f) IVDurchbruchswagen 2 VITiger 131 VIVK 30.01 (P) VIVK 36.01 (H) VIIVK 45.03 VIITiger I VIITiger (P) VIIIVK 100.01 (P) VIIIVK 168.01 (P) VIIIVK 168.01 Mauerbrecher VIIIVK 75.01 (K) VIIIE 75 TS VIIILöwe VIIITiger II VIIIVK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A IXE 75 IXMäuschen IXVK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B XE 100 XPz.Kpfw. VII XMaus XVK 72.01 (K)
France IVB1 VBDR G1 B VIARL 44 VIIAMX M4 mle. 45 VIIIAMX 50 100 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 VIIIAMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté VIIIAMX 65 t VIIISomua SM VIIIFCM 50 t IXAMX 50 120 IXLorraine 50 t IXAMX M4 mle. 51 XAMX 50 B XAMX M4 mle. 54
USSR VChurchill III VKV-220-2 VKV-220-2 Beta Test VKV-1 VKV-1 shielded VIKV-1S VIKV-2 VIKV-2 (R) VIKV-85 VIObject 244 VIT-150 VIIIS VIIKV-3 VIIKV-122 VIIIS-2M VIIIS-2 shielded VIIIS-2 VIIIIS-3 VIIIIS-6 VIIIIS-6 B VIIIKV-5 VIIIKV-4 VIIIIS-5 (Object 730) VIIIIS-3A VIIIIS-3A Peregrine VIIIKirovets-1 VIIIKV-4 Kreslavskiy VIIIObject 252U Defender VIIIObject 252U VIIIIS-M VIIIObject 703 Version II VIIIIS-2-II IXT-10 IXObject 777 Version II IXObject 257 IXObject 705 IXIS-3-II IXST-I XIS-4 XIS-7 XObject 260 XObject 705A XObject 277 XObject 279 early XST-II XObject 780
China VIIIS-2 VIIIWZ-111 VIIIWZ-111 Alpine Tiger VIII110 VIII112 IXWZ-111 model 1-4 IXWZ-114 X113 X113 Beijing Opera XWZ-111 model 5A XWZ-111 Qilin
Japan IIIType 91 Heavy IVType 95 Heavy VO-I Experimental VIHeavy Tank No. VI VIO-I VIIO-Ni VIIIO-Ho IXType 4 Heavy XType 5 Heavy
Czechoslovakia VIIŠkoda T 45 VIIVz. 44-1 VIIIŠkoda T 56 VIIITNH 105/1000 IXTNH T Vz. 51 XVz. 55
Sweden VIIIEmil I VIIIEMIL 1951 VIIIBofors Tornvagn IXEmil II IXStrv K XKranvagn
Italy VIICarro d'assalto P.88 VIIIProgetto CC55 mod. 54 VIIIBisonte C45 IXProgetto C50 mod. 66 XRinoceronte
Poland VII45TP Habicha VIII50TP prototyp VIII53TP Markowskiego IX50TP Tyszkiewicza X60TP Lewandowskiego
ja:Tank:F08 AMX 50 100