AMX 13 90
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? | |It comes with a | + | |It comes with a 4 round [[Automatic Loader|autoloader]]. | |
As with the the AMX 13 75, it works best waiting for engagements to occur and then flanking the enemies, firing on their sides and rear rapidly, and then fleeing to reload. It is also fairly good at scouting and artillery killing, although it doesn't accelerate as fast as some other lights, so it should avoid stopping or slowing down when performing these roles. | As with the the AMX 13 75, it works best waiting for engagements to occur and then flanking the enemies, firing on their sides and rear rapidly, and then fleeing to reload. It is also fairly good at scouting and artillery killing, although it doesn't accelerate as fast as some other lights, so it should avoid stopping or slowing down when performing these roles. | |||
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? | * | + | *Auto-loader with medium burst damage able to cripple or finish off damaged opponent (960 damage drum when upgraded) | |
? | * Very high camouflage values. One of the best scouting tanks of tier | + | *Very high camouflage values. One of the best scouting tanks of tier 9 | |
+ | *Stock suspension can handle all upgraded modules and equipment | |||
+ | *23 second base reload on 90mm gun (very fast compared to the old 46 or so for 6 shells) | |||
|InTheGame_cons= | |InTheGame_cons= | |||
? | * Poor accuracy on the move and during turret rotation, long aim time | + | *Poor accuracy on the move and during turret rotation, rather long aim time for a 90mm gun. | |
? | * | + | *Frequent module and crew damage | |
? | + | *Poor elevation and sub par depression due to a rear-mounted turret | ||
? | * Poor elevation and | + | *Below average track traverse and mobility in comparison to other tier 9 light tanks | |
? | * | + | *Long grind to fully upgrade it; first gun has low penetration. | |
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|InTheGame_performance= | |InTheGame_performance= | |||
? | Coupled with the right mindset and determination, the 13 90 can be either a rewarding tank to play, or extremely frustrating. | + | Coupled with the right mindset and determination, the 13 90 can be either a rewarding tank to play, or extremely frustrating. The first thing to understand about the 13 90 is that the gun doesn't make it a medium tank, and playing it as one will bring a quick death. Despite having an auto loader, the 13 90 is not a good flanker, it has the worst on the move gun handling. | |
? | The key to survival in the 13 90 is camouflage. | + | The key to survival in the 13 90 is camouflage. Almost all of your time should be spent either running or behind a bush. The AMX 13 90 should strive to keep his autoloader in the fight without attracting enemy attention, as taking any fire will quickly result in a death. The only time the 13 90 should be the enemy's primary target is when he is able to quickly finish off any enemy shooting at him and able to quickly get back into cover. | |
The AMX 13 90 has very poor gun depression and elevation. Terrain bumps and dips should be used to angle your hull up and down to allow shots that couldn't normally be made. | The AMX 13 90 has very poor gun depression and elevation. Terrain bumps and dips should be used to angle your hull up and down to allow shots that couldn't normally be made. | |||
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|InTheGame_research= | |InTheGame_research= | |||
? | * | + | * The SCR-528F radio carry over from earlier vehicles, mount it immediatly. | |
? | * | + | * Then upgrade the gun to the 90mm F3 for a much needed increase in burst damage total and penetration. | |
? | * | + | * The suspension should be researched next. The suspension not only increases the load capacity and the traverse speed, but also improves the terrain resistances and gun handling of the vehicle. | |
* Final engine - allowing you to get up to speed and flex better around the battlefield. | * Final engine - allowing you to get up to speed and flex better around the battlefield. | |||
? | |InTheGame_equipment=Vents, Coated Optics, GLD | + | |InTheGame_equipment=Vents, Coated Optics, Vertical Stabilizer, GLD | |
+ | |External_Reviews= | |||
+ | {{#ev:youtube|9MtGM6e0XeU}} | |||
|History= | |History= | |||
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* NBC system: None | * NBC system: None | |||
* Night vision: Optional | * Night vision: Optional | |||
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+ | Historical HEAT round with 320 mm of penetration is missing. This was the standard ammunition of the 90 mm F3 gun. Other historical rounds were APFSDS, HE and smoke. The APCR rounds are fake. | |||
+ | * Actual ammo capacity is 32 rounds. | |||
+ | * Historical [[Engine#SOFAM 8 Gxb|SOFAM 8 Gxb]] engine with 250 hp is missing. This was the AMX-13's original engine. | |||
+ | * The Detroit Diesel 6V53T engine is considerably more powerful than in reality, with a whopping 400-470 hp compared to the historical 280. | |||
+ | * The Detroit Diesel 6V53T was only intended for export like Israel, Indonesia and Singapore. Furthermore, France retired the AMX-13 in the 1970s; the diesel engine upgrade took place in the 1980s. | |||
+ | * The [[Gun/France#90 mm F3|90 mm F3]] is the same gun on the [[ARL 44]], [[AMX M4 mle. 45]], [[AMX 50 100]] and [[Bat.-Châtillon 25 t]]. Yet the penetration value of the AP shell is inconsistent. | |||
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Revision as of 06:38, 6 July 2019
AMX 13 90
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[Client Values; Actual values in
3,500,000 Cost |
1200240 HP Hit Points |
14.46/15.617.42/17.84 t Weight Limit |
- Commander (Radio Operator, Loader)
- Gunner (Loader)
- Driver
400470 hp Engine Power |
64/23 km/h Speed Limit |
3840 deg/s Traverse |
27.6663.34 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio |
NoNo Pivot |
// mm Hull Armor |
40/20/2040/20/20 mm Turret Armor |
AP/APCR/HE
APCR/APCR/HE Shells |
210/3200/145
374/4800/255 Shell Cost |
170/170/260240/240/320 HP Damage |
170/200/38205/248/45 mm Penetration |
r/m ▲
10.91 r/m Magazine-fed Gun ▲
8.09 Rate of Fire Magazine-fed Gun |
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Magazine-fed Gun
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Magazine-fed Gun
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1489.2 Magazine-fed Gun ▲
Magazine-fed Gun
▼
Magazine-fed Gun
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1900.8 Damage Per Minute Magazine-fed Gun |
m ▲
0.36 m With 50% Crew: 0.446 m ▲
0.38 Accuracy With 50% Crew: 0.471 m |
s 2.3 s 2.7 Aim time |
4646 deg/s Turret Traverse |
360° Gun Arc |
-6°/+12°-6°/+12° Elevation Arc |
4840 rounds Ammo Capacity |
1512 % Chance of Fire |
m 380 m 380 View Range |
m 400 m 750 Signal Range |
Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)
Camouflage
- Stationary: 17.7%
- When Moving: 17.7%
- When Firing: 4.6%
Terrain Resistance
- On Hard Ground: 0.77
- On Medium Ground: 0.86
- On Soft Ground: 1.34
Dispersion Change Values
- Turret Contribution
- Rotation: 0.17
- Shot Recoil: 3.84
- Suspension Contribution
- Acceleration: 0.2
- Turning: 0.2
With 100% Crew
IX
3500000
The AMX 13 90 is a French tier 9 light tank.
In the early 1960s, the 75-mm gun with a muzzle velocity of 1,000 m/s was deemed outdated. The vehicle received the new 90-mm F3 gun that used more powerful HEAT shells. This modernization did not require any significant changes to the turret or vehicle design. The first vehicles were manufactured in February, 1967. The existing vehicles underwent the gun modernization as well.
It comes with a 4 round autoloader.
As with the the AMX 13 75, it works best waiting for engagements to occur and then flanking the enemies, firing on their sides and rear rapidly, and then fleeing to reload. It is also fairly good at scouting and artillery killing, although it doesn't accelerate as fast as some other lights, so it should avoid stopping or slowing down when performing these roles.
The AMX 13 90 leads to the AMX 13 105.
Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables
Modules
Tier | Engine | Engine Power (hp) |
Chance of Fire on Impact (%) |
Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | Detroit Diesel 6V53T | 400 | 15 | 770 | 44000 | |
IX | Detroit Diesel 6V53T-S | 470 | 12 | 770 | 78000 |
Tier | Suspension | Load Limit (т) |
Traverse Speed (gr/sec) |
Rmin | Weight (kg) |
Price ()
| |
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VIII | AMX 13 Type 2R | 15.61 | 38 | B/2 | 1400 | 18500 | |
IX | AMX 13 Type 2D | 17.84 | 40 | B/2 | 1400 | 52000 |
Compatible Equipment
Compatible Consumables
Player Opinion
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Auto-loader with medium burst damage able to cripple or finish off damaged opponent (960 damage drum when upgraded)
- Very high camouflage values. One of the best scouting tanks of tier 9
- Stock suspension can handle all upgraded modules and equipment
- 23 second base reload on 90mm gun (very fast compared to the old 46 or so for 6 shells)
Cons:
- Poor accuracy on the move and during turret rotation, rather long aim time for a 90mm gun.
- Frequent module and crew damage
- Poor elevation and sub par depression due to a rear-mounted turret
- Below average track traverse and mobility in comparison to other tier 9 light tanks
- Long grind to fully upgrade it; first gun has low penetration.
Performance
Coupled with the right mindset and determination, the 13 90 can be either a rewarding tank to play, or extremely frustrating. The first thing to understand about the 13 90 is that the gun doesn't make it a medium tank, and playing it as one will bring a quick death. Despite having an auto loader, the 13 90 is not a good flanker, it has the worst on the move gun handling.
The key to survival in the 13 90 is camouflage. Almost all of your time should be spent either running or behind a bush. The AMX 13 90 should strive to keep his autoloader in the fight without attracting enemy attention, as taking any fire will quickly result in a death. The only time the 13 90 should be the enemy's primary target is when he is able to quickly finish off any enemy shooting at him and able to quickly get back into cover.
The AMX 13 90 has very poor gun depression and elevation. Terrain bumps and dips should be used to angle your hull up and down to allow shots that couldn't normally be made.
Early Research
- The SCR-528F radio carry over from earlier vehicles, mount it immediatly.
- Then upgrade the gun to the 90mm F3 for a much needed increase in burst damage total and penetration.
- The suspension should be researched next. The suspension not only increases the load capacity and the traverse speed, but also improves the terrain resistances and gun handling of the vehicle.
- Final engine - allowing you to get up to speed and flex better around the battlefield.
Suggested Equipment
External Reviews and Opinions
Gallery
Historical Info
The AMX 13 90 is a version of the AMX-13 French light tank that was produced from 1966 to 1985.
Design and Features
From 1966 on, the 75mm high-velocity gun was replaced by a 90 mm (the AMX-13/90) medium velocity gun firing more effective HEAT ammunition, with the French upgrading all existing base models to this specification. By the early 1970s export models were available with an even more potent 105mm gun. Although there were many variants on the turret the basic chassis was almost unchanged until 1985 when changes including a new diesel engine, fully automatic transmission and new hydro-pneumatic suspension were introduced. Production halted with the Model 1987. After sales support and upgrades are still offered through GIAT Industries (now Nexter). The AMX-13 tank was phased out of service with the French Army in the 1980s. Current French armoured vehicles with a similar role are the ERC 90 Sagaie and the AMX 10 RC.
Additional Characteristics
- Ground clearance: 370 mm (15 in)
- Fording: 600 mm (24 in)
- Vertical obstacle 650 mm (26 in)
- Trench: 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)
- Gradient 60%
- Side slope: 60%
- NBC system: None
- Night vision: Optional
Historical Gallery
Historical Accuracy Errata
Historical HEAT round with 320 mm of penetration is missing. This was the standard ammunition of the 90 mm F3 gun. Other historical rounds were APFSDS, HE and smoke. The APCR rounds are fake.
- Actual ammo capacity is 32 rounds.
- Historical SOFAM 8 Gxb engine with 250 hp is missing. This was the AMX-13's original engine.
- The Detroit Diesel 6V53T engine is considerably more powerful than in reality, with a whopping 400-470 hp compared to the historical 280.
- The Detroit Diesel 6V53T was only intended for export like Israel, Indonesia and Singapore. Furthermore, France retired the AMX-13 in the 1970s; the diesel engine upgrade took place in the 1980s.
- The 90 mm F3 is the same gun on the ARL 44, AMX M4 mle. 45, AMX 50 100 and Bat.-Châtillon 25 t. Yet the penetration value of the AP shell is inconsistent.